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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008
    ladysuz wrote:

    Nancy -

    Your post recites, almost word-for-word, an email that was sent around in the spring.  Politifact.org looked at the capital gains portion of the email, and regarding the home sales, said

    "But there's another problem with the e-mail's statements, specifically the implication that all home sales are subject to the capital gains tax. Many home sales are exempt from the capital gains tax. As long as they meet rules requiring that they've lived in their home, homeowers don't have to pay the capital gains tax if the profits on their home are less than $250,000 for a single person or $500,000 for a married couple. The rule applies to workers and retirees alike, said Eric Toder, a tax policy expert with the Urban Institute in Washington, D.C."

    Please note that you only pay capital gains if your profits are more than $250,000/$500,000. 

    Oops!  Sorry, Madalyn.  Just saw your post.

    Madalyn, a little more explanation needs to be posted. Sorry for the big letters.  I C&Pd and it came out like this.

    Capital Gains When Selling Your Home Over the years the tax laws have changed with regards to how the sale of your home is taxed. There were once laws that said that you could rollover the profit from the sale into a new more expensive home. There used to be a one time exclusion on the sale of your home if you were over 65. Those laws are now no longer valid and have been replaced by the current law.

    The current law states that if you purchase a home, and live in it for 2 out of 5 years, you do not have to pay capital gains (or any other tax) on up to $500,000 gain for a married filing joint couple or $250,000 gain for a single person. In plain English, this means that if a couple purchased a home for $200,000, lived in it for 2 years and then sold it, they could sell it for $700,000 without paying any taxes on the profit ($450,000 for a single person). There is no limit, you can buy and sell a home every two years with the same exclusion.

    What if you do not live in the home for two years? There are three exceptions to the two year rule.

    1. Change in Place of Employment. The IRS says that if you, your spouse, a co-owner of the home, or a person whose main home is the same as yours changes employment, you can still take the exclusion. The employment can be a new employer, the same employer or self employment. The new employment must however, be at least 50 mile farther from the home you sold than the old place of employment. The change of employment must take place while you are living in the home.

    2. Health. The IRS says that you can claim the exclusion if you have to move because of a specific medical problem. This can be for a parent, grandparent, stepparent, sibling, step sibling, half sibling, mother or father in law, aunt, uncle, nephew, niece or cousin. The move must be to obtain, provide, or facilitate the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, or treatment of disease, illness or injury. You can't take the exclusion if you move just because it will benefit a persons general health or well-being unless a doctor recommends the change of residence.

    3. Unforseen Circumstances. Unforseen circumstances is an event that you could not reasonable have anticipated before you bought and moved into the property. They include things such as natural or man made disasters, act of war or terrorism, death, unemployment (if you qualify for unemployment), divorce or legal separation, multiple births resulting from the same pregnancy or a change in employment that results in the inability to pay your ordinary living expenses. Unforseen circumstances does not cover if you just prefer a different home or your finances improve or you spend too much to maintain a luxurious life style.

    Examples:

    Employment: Justin was unemployed and living in a townhouse in Florida that he owned and used as his main home since 2005. He got a job in North Carolina and sold his townhouse in 2006. Because the distance between Justin 's new place of employment and the home he sold is over 50 miles, he qualifies for the exclusion of the gain from the sale of the townhouse.

    Health: In 2005, Chase and Lauren, husband and wife, bought a house that they used as their main home. Lauren 's father has a chronic disease and is unable to care for himself. In 2006, Chase and Lauren sell their home in order to move into Lauren 's father 's house to provide care for him. Because they are moving to care for the father, they qualify for the exclusion.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    I have a friend who's mom died a year ago.  They could not sell the house unless she or her brother moved in for at least two years because it was left to them. Their mother put the the house in her borther and her name.  Right now is not the time to sell the house.  This house was bought many, many years ago and is worth a whole lot more than was paid for.  So, I don't know what they'll do about the sell of this house. One of them could move into the house I suppose.  They need to talk to an expert. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Why do the women on the other thread call "Joe the Plumber" a fake?  Why instead are they not upset that the government in Ohio had the NERVE to look up this man to see what kind of BS they could find on him?  Joe is not a fake.  He is a plumber.  They need to look into how much longer Joe needs to work in order to get his license.  A plumber can work under a license plumber.

    I love Tito.  He just said that if he fired his wife he'd lose his money.  He employs four people which includes himself.  One is also his wife.  He said that he hires contractors sometime.  He said Obama's taxes wouldn't bother him now, but he's looking into the future plus he has said before he didn't want "crumbs" from Obama.

    Why are people so nasty on the other thread by saying that the McCain's want to turn the Whitehouse into trailer trash?  What's wrong with living in trailers?  Is that an "elitist" remark?  What if I lived in a trailer..should I fell insulted by that remark?  What if I have to move into a trailer because I lost my home?  Should I feel insulted by that comment?

    I know..I should be reading over there. 

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Why are women over on the other thread upset because we and other republicans in this country question Obama's associations.  Would they not question McCain's associations if he had the same ones Obama had?  They compare Rev. Hagee and McCain to Wright and Obama's relationship.  Are they not educated enough to know that Hagee endorsed McCain.  McCain never attended his church.  Obama told "stories" about not hearing Wright's hateful spew about our country.

    Why do some people get upset because McCain said "welcome prisoners"...something like that.  Why don't they get upset by what Biden has warned us about for the first six months of Obama being in office and that we should trust him when he does whatever he's going to do...and why don't the ladies over there get upset with Biden's memory loss when he said  during the debate about some restaruant he's been visiting..talking to the people..and the restaurant's been out of business for many, many years?  Why don't the ladies on the other thread get upset by what's middle class...Biden says $150,000,..what's-his-name says $120,000,..Obama says $250,000 then on his infomercial he says $200,000?

    Whitehouse turned into trailer trash?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    I want to ladies form the other thread to know that McCain is not going after Wright.  I cannot post over there so I'm hoping someone will read this.  It's another group that has nothing to do with McCain.

    Obama said he wasn't going to use race in this campaign.  He did by pointing out that he looked different and his name was different.  McCain has NEVER used race in his campaign.

    No matter if you hate McCain it's better if you know your facts.

    I don't have to walk one inch in Wright's shoes to know he's anti-American.  Why do you ladies on the other thread think Obama finally DENOUNCED Wright?  I have my own ideas, what are yours?

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited November 2008

    Just a heads up that McCain will be on SNL tonight.  They are also doing a parody of Keith Olbermann from MSN...............

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited November 2008

    One other thing--don't put too much credibility into weekend polls-- they are nightmares for Republicans since many are not available---add to that Halloween and it will account for allot of disparity.

     I hear Michael Medved is saying that allot of the pollsters are having allot of problems with this election because there are up to 80% non respondents. 

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008
    Shirley, you crack me up! Laughing  They banned you from posting on their thread?  I didn't know that could happen.  But I am sure that just as your curiosity gets you to read theirs, their curiosity will have them here.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    No, Moody, I'm not banded.  You are stripped of your privilege (freedom of speech) if you post anything negative on their thread.  Remember, it's the "positive" Obama thread.  This is the "respectfully Republican conversation."  Not much difference except we've never told other women on breastcancer.org that they are not welcome to post on this thread..that they have their own thread...However, not everything is so positive over there...they are very mean and cruel to Joe the Plumber. laugh at Tito the Builder, call Sarah Palin a Vagina, call Senator McCain too old to be president and lest we forget McCain also had cancer...bad, bad, bad..he could die, ya know.  Well, I could too. I could fall down my stairs, crack my head wide open and die.  I could die from a heart attack.  I could die from a stroke.  I could die from bc.

    I don't know how tall Obama is.  I think he's pretty tall.  I hope he's had his heart checked out.  Ya know what?  Many people have this heart thing when they're very tall..don't know what it's called...and they die immediately from a heart attack.  I don't wish that on Obama or anyone else.  And, I don't know exactly how tall he is.

    McCain runs circles around many of us.,,you know..he's too old.  This man has been campaigning long and hard for two years.  He looks darn healthy to me.  Even with his war injuries...bless his heart.  Since they can't find too much dirt on McCain, sometimes his affair and divorce and marriage to Cindy comes up.  What a horrible man!  It's okay that Clinton did his "thing" in the Oval Office..it was his personal business you know..but I didn't know you could do that kind of personal business ON THE JOB!  They can't find any unamericans that McCain's palled around with so other little dirty and incendiary remarks are made about him.

    My other question:  Why won't Obama meet with the press on his plane.  Seems like no one knows our possible next president.  Well, perhaps his wife does and Rev. Wright...politicians do what they do......Wright knew that Obama sat in his church and heard his unamerican hate messages.  Politicians lie..according to Wright.

    I'm not being negative.  I'm being truthful.  If anyone wants the truth it's easy to find if you take your blinders off and pull out those darn ear plugs.  But no...if one speaks honestly about THE ONE we're negative..racist. yada yada. 

    I'm just a little bit sick of it and I'm not running a poupularity contest.

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    The truth hurts.

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Well, Sherri, if Obama wins HE WILL BRING ME TO TEARS!  It will be quite distrubing.  LOL  No, it's not LOL...it's sad.

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    This is old news.  However, I think I read somwhere that Helen Jones-Kelley, was let off the hook. 

    I know this is old news, but I JUST had to mention it again.  If anyone that was a republican and who had donated the max to him, $2300, and OK'd the check on Joe the repub would have been blasted and hung!

    Just a little bit to read again about this.  I am so angry that this woman is possibly let off the hook.  I truly hope Wurzelbacher sues these people for invading his privacy without cause no matter how Jones-Kelley spins it (LIES!).

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/28/joe29.html?sid=101  

    The Toledo Police Department announced that a records clerk improperly pulled Wurzelbacher's information on behalf of a reporter for a Toledo television station the day after the Oct. 15 presidential debate.

    The clerk has been charged with gross misconduct and faces a disciplinary hearing, said Chief Michael Navarre. He declined to identify the TV station but said the reporter confirmed asking for a check on Wurzelbacher's address.

    The Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency also said an employee's computer was used to improperly access Bureau of Motor Vehicles records on Wurzelbacher. The employee denies involvement.

    Another access of Wurzelbacher's information, by an outside contractor with access to an attorney general's office test account, is being investigated by the State Highway Patrol.

    Inspector General Thomas P. Charles also is investigating why the director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services approved a check on Wurzelbacher through the state's child-support computer system.

    Director Helen Jones-Kelley said that after a "team meeting," she OK'd the check because the department often runs inquiries to check for unpaid child support on people thrust into "the public spotlight."

    Wurzelbacher said he has custody of his 13-year-old son and neither pays nor receives child support, leaving him puzzled about why he would be checked.

    Jones-Kelley said there were no political motivations behind the check. The Democratic appointee has contributed the maximum $2,300 to the Obama campaign this year, according to Federal Election Commission records.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Something came out about an aunt who is here illegally.  And he has a brother in Nairobi that makes nothing...Hannity wants to send him $$$ if he could find out his addy.  And Obama and his wife donated less than 10% of their income to charity.  LOL  And he wants to "redistribute wealth."  No thanks.  I think Americans are quite charitable and are able to donate their money where they want.  Americans work in soup kitchens, homeless shelters..etc.  Help build homes.  Volunteer and still volunteer to help with the leftovers of Katrina..feeding the workers.  There's so much good in Americans.  Why we must apologize to any country is beyone me.

    Shirley

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008

    Well, I think your great Shirley!  You are very passionate about what you believe yet you are respectful.  Your right those over <-- are only about name calling.

    Dem's try to use the fact that McCain divorced his first wife and how horrible he was for doing that when she was crippled.  I don't know why they divorced and I don't CARE why they divorced.  The difference is MCCAIN NEVER LIED ABOUT IT!  Never, not once, not ever.  He didn't try to "cover it up", "sugar coat it", or "down play it".  He said he made a mistake and he and his ex worked it out and are friends.

    The other thing that comes up from the Dem's is the "Keating 5" thing.  Here is the difference with this one.  When Keating 5 got caught, McCain dissassociated himself from them.  When Obama got caught is when he dissassociated with ALL his questionable "friends".

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008
    SherriG, didnt you know?  Obama didn't know she was living in poverty.........................He didnt know jeremiah wright.................he didnt know bill ayers......................he didnt know the PLO was at that dinner.......................he didnt know kaldahli..........................he didnt know about acorn.............................and on, and on, and on
  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008

    250,000, no, make that 200,000, no, make that 150,000, no make that 75,000, no make that 42,000 get tax cuts.   

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008

    Well that 65% in Springfield MUST be discriminating due to McCains age, and sexist against Palin then if they wont vote for them!

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008

    LMAO!  You know where Ron White got "you cant fix stupid?"

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008
    He lives down the street from one of my clients and they were having dinner one night and ron white was complaining about his lawn people doing something stupid and my client told him "well you cant fix stupid" .  ron almost busted a gut and asked him if he could use that in his routines.  tommy said sure, the next thing he knew it was the TITLELaughing 
  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited November 2008

    Now I find out I can't be fixed, darn.

    I enjoy lurking now just reading what you ladies post.  It is refreshing, and informative. 

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008
    too funny ibcspouse.  Laughing  My hubby says duck tape can fix anything..........
  • Daffodil
    Daffodil Member Posts: 829
    edited November 2008

    SNL was fun to watch. I've never watched Keith Olbermann; creepy!! Senator McCain looked great and was a good sport. You can't poke fun at the other candidate~~~unless you are on SNL.

    In the criticism of Senator McCain's past, has everyone forgotten the bios of Teresa Heinz, heiress, and John Kerry? His sick first wife? Their many homes, which were estates, not condos? (Did you know that George Clooney's beautiful Lake Como villa was purchased from the Kerrys and wasn't part of the list of their properties?)

    I won't be agreeing with all of ANY candidate's social policies~~~until I run. Innocent

    Cheers!!!

  • 07rescue
    07rescue Member Posts: 168
    edited November 2008

    Hi to all the Republicans here on this thread. I am one of those Hillary Clinton Democrats who met with John McCain at his Arlington office after Hillary conceded to Obama. I want to wish you all the best of luck on election day, I am praying McCain can defeat Obama for many, many reasons that are too complex to go into here. Many of us Clinton Democrats feel that our country will be placed at great risk if Obama is elected. Friends of mine (left wing Democrats) have known him intimately in Chicago and detest him for his corruption and lack of a moral core. They have lived with and worked with him for many years, and know him well. If even the people who agree with his political views detest his character, you know there is something deeply wrong. We haven't been successful in getting the media to report all the voter fraud his campaign perpetrated during the primaries, but it is a real danger to our democracy.

    McCain was terrific on SNL, wasn't he? He is still here in NYC overnight and I and other McCain volunteers will be meeting him at 8:00 AM Sunday morning  on West 54 St. to wish him well, It may be the last time I ever get to meet him in person. Afterward our busloads of NYC volunteers (LOTS of Democrats included) will head out to PA to campaign for McCain/Palin until the big day. We are praying we can flip PA for McCain, their 21 electoral votes could turn the election.

     I'm really sad that I got my BC diagnosis in August and had to have a bilateral mastectomy in September, it really sidelined me at a time I would have been volunteering in PA for McCain. Instead I was emptying drains and trying not to pull my incision open by doing too much. There are so many Clinton Democrats who will be voting for McCain, I hope it's enough!

  • Daffodil
    Daffodil Member Posts: 829
    edited January 2009

    YOU GO, GIRL!

    Good luck in your recovery~~~~~

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2008

    Thanks Rescue,

    Turn PA red.  Yes, I agree, good luck on your recovery. 

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2008

    Well here's all the people Obama doesn't know anymore, we can add his Aunt now to the list:

    http://www.investors.com/editorial/cartoons/CartoonPopUp.aspx?id=308264126311140

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2008
    The offhand aside to Joe the Plumber about "spreading the wealth around" was revealing because it suggests a crude redistributive view of "social justice". Yet the nimble Hope-a-Dope sidestepper brushed it aside, telling a crowd in Raleigh that next John McCain will be "accusing me of being a secret communist because I shared my toys in kindergarten."

    But that too is revealing. As John Hood pointed out at National Review, communism is not "sharing." In a free society, the citizen chooses whether to share his Lego, trade it for some Thomas the Tank Engine train tracks, or keep it to himself. From that freedom of action grow mighty Playmobile cities. Communism is compulsion. It's the government confiscating your Elmo to "share" it with someone of its choice. Joe the Plumber is free to spread his own wealth around - hiring employees, buying supplies from local businesses, enjoying surf 'n' turf night at his favorite eatery. But, in Obama's world view, that's not good enough: the state is the best judge of how to spread Joe the Plumber's wealth around.

    The Senator is a wealthy man, mainly on the strength of two bestselling books offering his biography in lieu of policy and accomplishments. Many lively members of his Kenyan family occur as supporting characters in his story and provide the vivid color in it. But they too are not merely two-dimensional cartoons. His Aunt Zeituni, a memorable figure in Obama's writing, turned up for real last week, when the dogged James Bone of the London Times tracked her down. She lives in a rundown housing project in Boston.

    In his Wednesday night infomercial, Obama declared that his "fundamental belief" was that "I am my brother's keeper." Back in Kenya, his brother lives in a shack on 12 bucks a year. If Barack is his brother's keeper, why couldn't he send him a $10 bill and nearly double the guy's income? The reality is that Barack Obama assumes the government should be his brother's keeper, and his aunt's keeper. Why be surprised by that? For 20 years in Illinois, Obama has marinated in the swamps of the Chicago political machine and the campus radicalism of William Ayers and Rashid Khalidi. In such a world, the redistributive urge is more or less a minimum entry qualification.

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/obama-dimensional-hope-2212958-barack-government

  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2008

    Thanks Rescue!  Best wishes on your recovery.

    McCain will be back in Florida today.  The polls indicate Obama leading by only two points. The early voting lines are up to 5 hours long.  Folks are camping outside the voting places just to make sure they can cast their vote. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    I saw a clip of Obama telling that crowd in Raleigh that next John McCain will be "accusing me of being a secret communist because I shared my toys in kindergarten."

    He used the same schoolyard bully mocking tone of voice that he used against Hillary during the primary campaign, and encouraged the crowd to laugh at McCain.  Can you imagine the outcry if any republican encouraged a crowd to mock Obama for something he never did?

    That nasty, mocking, bullying thing offends me.  I worry that it is the "real" Obama showing through the scripted image.

    I can understand that there may be a delicate balance between helping his aunt and brother monitarily and offending them, but surely a man that wealthy and that smart could come up with a way to help them at least somewhat without offending. 

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2008

    Mocking and laughing is one of Saul Alinsky's tenets of how to be a good community organizer. 

    Obama may be doing us a favor, he brought up communism and then we see articles coming out about that very subject.  What's he going to talk about today, and tomorrow?  I can't wait.

    About the brother, read factcheck carefully, no one is saying he didn't live in a shack on $12 a month.  His circumstances could have recently changed.  Did anyone ask him that?

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