The Respectfully Republican Conversation

blue16 I just want to throw something out there and see what you think.  I have been studying this whole deal and researching.  People keep blaming the the President for the mess we are in, realizing the "boss" is suppose to be in control.  But the way it is, the President has limited control-dictated by Congress.

So I went to US Politics to look at the history of the House, Senate, And President to compare parties with the majority.  Clinton's 2nd term 1995-1999 was in office were some of the best years we had economically.  I voted for Clinton because of how good things were.  Well BOTH seats in Congress were REPUBLICAN.

For the last two years when things have gone to pot the DEMOCRATS have controlled congress.

Since Congress is control of spending, and the democrats are in control of congress, who is to blame for the 10 trillion dollar debt? 

Here is how Obama wants to bring our troops home: "we can safely redeploy combat brigades from Iraq at a pace of 1 to 2 brigades a month that would remove them in 16 months" (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/)

Now I am no military expert, but would you want to be in the last brigade left in Irag?  That would be like going to a "gang" fight with ALL your gang members, only to turn around at the last minute to see your are the only one left to fight the other gang ALL BY YOURSELF!

Moody, Good post, ooops, did you forget the Senate could not get the 60 votes for closure of debate, (stop the fillabuster) because of the 45 Democrats.  They would not allow the vote.  Hate having little facts jump in the way of a good argument.  Did you not notice in your post it passed 11 to 9 out of committee on party line vote.  Now what party was it that voted 9.  By the way this bill was in requested by evil and dumb Bush who had being trying for years to get Congress to do something about the sub-prime before it collapsed or economy. 

Blue,

McCain said, now hear this, he will not cut spending for our troops, national defense and the vets.  There is so much corruption in medicare and medicaid, we could save fortunes.  Any time we have a gov't run health care program, corruption soon follows.  There are plenty of places to cut spending.  Our government is the largest of any country.  Cutting spending can happen without it being noticed.  

I guess you haven't paid any attention to Barney and Maxine and the others who voted down McCain's plan to oversee Freddie and Fannie.  If you don't want to blame them and the other dems on the committee, (by the way one of them apologized for what he did), then who do you blame?  Bush?  He warned something like 13 times that freddie and fannie needed oversight.

Your money is gone, mine took a good hit, and yes Barney and Maxine and all the democrats sitting on that committee did it to us.  Let's all reelect them.

blue16, I do agree that it would seem unreasonable to think congress could do that much damage in two years, so, beings I have no life I went back and too a more thorough look.

When Reagan LEFT Congress was Dem majority

Bush #1 Congress was Dem majority all 4 years

Clintons 1st 4yrs Congress was Dem majority, his last 4 years congress was repub. majority

Bush #2 first 6 years  Senate-Dem, House-Rep; Bush last 2 years congress majority- DEMs

Subject: THIS WILL CHANGE YOUR RETIREMENT

This is written by a retirement planning expert from Wachovia

Securities, a

professional speaking:

What retirement?

THIS WILL CHANGE YOUR RETIREMENT

For those among you who have more money than you will ever need,

 save your time and delete this email.

For the rest of us who are still working with mortgages, children

 and grandchildren or retired living on a pension and or Social Security

 perhaps you will take a couple of minutes to read the proposed changes

in

 the American tax system.

Sharing this email with others can make a difference on November 4,

 2008; for our citizens and our country.

INTERESTING DATA JUST RECEIVED ON TAXES

This is something you should be aware of so you don't get

 blind-sided. This is really going to catch a lot of families off guard.

It

should make

 you worry.

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN

0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples) McCain does not

 propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA

28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit,

 you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward

retirement

 and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement

 community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes.

This

proposal

 will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from

 their homes as part of their retirement income.

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 15% (no change)

OBAMA 39.6%

How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock

 market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement

 accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be

paying

 nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama become president. The

experts

 predict that higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would

crash

the

 stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN (no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500

Single making 50K - tax $12,500

Single making 75K - tax $18,750

Married making 60K- tax $9,000

Married making 75K - tax $18,750

Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA

(Reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)

Single making 30K - tax $8,400

Single making 50K - tax $14,000

Single making 75K - tax $23,250

Married making 60K - tax $16,800

Married making 75K - tax $21,000

Married making 125K - tax $38,750

Under Obama your taxes will more than double! How does this affect

 you?

No explanation needed. This is pretty straight forward.

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax

How does this affect you? Many families have lost businesses, farms

 and ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations

 because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their

 assets to loved ones will not only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA

* New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400

 square feet

* New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already)

* New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water,

electricity)

* New taxes on retirement accounts and last but not least....

* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the

 same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

NIH Funding 2009 - response after signing a petition to support funding.

Thank you for contacting me about funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH). I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.

           Like you, I strongly support increased funding for scientific research, and I have consistently voted to increase the NIH budget throughout my time in the Senate. I am disappointed that President Bush's budget proposal for Fiscal Year (FY) 2009 requests no increase in funding for the NIH. Such a proposal would make FY 2009 the sixth year in a row that our nation's investment in life-saving research failed to keep up with biomedical inflation. If funding for the NIH remains at the President's requested level, the projected success rate for research grant applications would fall to the lowest level since 1970.

           I recently signed a letter to the Chairman and Ranking Member of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, requesting that the NIH receive an 8.8 percent funding increase in FY 2009. As a member of the Appropriations Committees, please be assured that I will work to provide increased funding for the NIH and will keep your views in mind as the appropriations process moves forward.

Madalyn, I believe this is from the same link that you may have used.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-s20060525-16  

 FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2005

The United States Senate

May 25, 2006

Section 16

Sen. John McCain [R-AZ]:

Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae's regulator reported that the company's quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were "illusions deliberately and systematically created" by the company's senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.

The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae's former chief executive officer, OFHEO's report shows that over half of Mr. Raines' compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.

The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator's examination of the company's accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.

For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac--known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs--and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.

Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.

Quick Info S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005

 Last Action: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a substitute favorably. Status: Dead

I just don't understand why Obama calls people who have succeeded in life and are making a very good living that they are selfish.  How dare he say that. He has a brother in Nairobi  who makes one dollar a month and family members who live in poverty right here in this country and he doesn't help them.  And he wants successful Americans on giving those who have not succeeded to their level.  Hannity just said if he can find the address for Obama's brother he'll send him $1,000.  He said if Obama would come on his show he'd give Obama's brother $10,000.  Now that's what I call charitable.

Will people wake up too late to know what they're getting themselves into?  On his infomercial Obama changed that $250,000 to $200,000.  And, Biden said $150,000.  Then another politician (darn I can't think of his name right now) said $120,000.  So, how many times is Obama going to change these numbers?

has anyone here signed up for teamsarah ??  www.teamsarah.org

you can watch the new Ad that they've created that is airing in some parts of the country -  the ad is in response to Obama's wink ad ...   

Did anyone go to the snopes link re taxes, etc. Please do, and tell us what you see. I really am interested in the real facts. We sold as much as possible this summer.

My neighbors, part of Hillaryland, have a huge professional annual Halloween display. It's open to the public for one night, drawing so many "trick-or-treaters" that our streets are jammed and they have hired police. I didn't go this time, as we had dozens of kids and teens at the door, who arrived in vanloads......and we were going to a party.

I walked by with the dog and the banner over the driveway reads, "Hell-o-Ween, The Frightening Ride to the White House." There's an Uncle Sam, an elephant with a skeletal ghoul in white rags, and a donkey with a knight in a black cape carrying a sword. I was told that all the political tableaux were very "clever", but the haunted house was too much for the children~~~who do at least get candy.

BOO!

the Evil Queen

Sherri,

If you all live in a battleground State, your daughter will have to work harder on him.  Otherwise, it doesn't matter. My son lives in a blue State so his vote isn't worth me arguing with him about it.  So we stay off of politics. But I did mail him a picture of McCain & Palin.

Some kids came to my door last evening, and one was wearing a Sarah Palin mask.  So I asked him... so that means you'll be voting for Sarah?  He said sure, she's a hockey Mom!  You gotta love em.

Rosemary - we had one trick or treater wearing an Obama custome and shouting vote for Obama.  I was so tempted to give him a copy of my new avatar instead of candy but I figured he is too young to vote so it's not worth it.

IllinoisNancy wrote:

Why are Madylyn and Ladysuz on our website?  The Obama gals get all irritated if we go over there and leave comments. 

Good question, Nancy.  The name of our thread is, "The Respectfully Republican Conversation."  We happen to be tolerant of other's opinions.  We don't purposely chase them away and call them names i.e. trolls.  We answer most of their questions.  I'm sure we get a bit passionate at times and seem to be harsh.  But, this is a "republican" thread.  However, on the other thread it's called the Positive Obama thread.     

The only difference I can see is one is for Obama and one is for the Republican candidate.  However, we don't "own" these threads, thus anyone should be able to post here.  We're not afraid of their negative posts.  It's not like some some kind of hex will be put on our candidate because they need to vent here.  But you notice that the one's who insinuate that we're racist do not post here.  I do believe we would be a bit upset if they did.  In fact, I challenge them to come over here and talk about how racist we are.  Say it to our faces.  Don't be chicken.

I realize that over on the other thread they think I'm a trouble maker.  I'm not.  I'm just as passionate about my candidate and my beliefs as they are.  And when they say that we wouldn't know racism if it smacked us in the face...that's insulting AND accuses us of being racist.   And,I

I still say that when a person refers to a woman as a vagina it is sexist, insulting, immature, deplorable.........Need I say more?  How would one like a man to refer to a woman as a vagina?