Positive Obama thread
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Oh..and the troll dosn't have near the funds that Obama/Biden have. His own fault.
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A beautiful article about Barack's Grandmother:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/us/politics/24cnd-obama.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
October 24, 2008
For Obama, a Melancholy Biography Tour
By JEFF ZELENY
HONOLULU - For the last 21 months, she has followed the odyssey of his presidential campaign like a spectator in a faraway balcony.
She underwent a corneal transplant to see him on television. She reluctantly agreed to film a political ad when he needed to urgently reassure the voters about his distinctive American roots. She told him during one of their frequent telephone conversations that it might not hurt if he smiled a bit more.
And on Friday, Senator Barack Obama spent the day saying goodbye.
Mr. Obama came to the Punahou Circle Apartments here, a place of his own childhood, where his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, lay gravely ill. For weeks, he has talked to doctors and tracked her condition. After she was released from the hospital last week, he received word that he should not wait until after the election to make what he believes could be his last visit.
It was an unusual departure from the tug-of-war of a presidential campaign, particularly with 11 days remaining in the race. But it was a trip that his advisers said he told them was not negotiable. He missed his mother's death here in 1995, a mistake he said he did not intend to repeat with his grandmother, who has been a stalwart force in his life.
His first visit to Mrs. Dunham, whose 86th birthday is Sunday, lasted about 70 minutes on Thursday evening. He returned on Friday to the 10th floor apartment - the place Mr. Obama lived between the ages of 10 and 18 - which was flooded with flowers and well wishes from strangers who got to know her from Mr. Obama's first book, "Dreams From My Father."
Mr. Obama has reached the closing days of his run for the White House without ever holding a formal biographical tour. (In a candidacy built on biography, and criticized for its celebrity, his advisers believed that sticking to substance, as well as an overseas trip in July, was a wiser course.)
But suddenly a biographical tour unfolded around him, as he made the brief visit here to see the woman who was a guiding force in his life and played a supporting role in his candidacy, from the Iowa caucuses to his marquee speech on race in Philadelphia and to his general election effort to win over voters in red states.
The moment Mr. Obama stepped off the plane here late Thursday evening, following a nine-hour flight from Indianapolis, his motorcade drove directly to the 12-story apartment building on South Beretania Street. His return to Hawaii was covered live on the local news, but his arrival was subdued. He did not wave to the cameras. There was no welcoming party on the breezy airport tarmac.
"One of the things I wanted to make sure of is that I had a chance to sit down with her and talk to her," Mr. Obama said on Friday morning on the ABC program "Good Morning America," in one of the few interviews he has granted on the trip. "She's still alert, and she's still got all her faculties, and I want to make sure that - that I don't miss that opportunity right now."
As Mr. Obama flew west across six time zones and with the setting sun, he stayed in the secluded front cabin of his campaign plane. He read, slept and briefly talked with a handful of aides traveling with him. The knot in his red tie was loosened as he walked down the aisle of his plane to stretch his legs, but he kept a safe distance from a small group of reporters who accompanied him on the flight.
It was a starkly different mood from that of Mr. Obama's pilgrimage to Kansas nine months ago for his first visit to the town of El Dorado, where his grandparents originally had lived.
"She can't travel," Mr. Obama said of his grandmother during the flight to Kansas in late January. "She has a bad back. She has pretty severe osteoporosis, but she's glued to CNN." A smile washed over his face as he spoke about the woman he calls "Toot," his own shorthand for grandparent, which in Hawaii is Tutu.
Back then, when Mr. Obama was in the opening stages of his Democratic primary fight, he spoke wistfully about his grandparents, whose all-American biography had become urgently critical to establishing his own American story. He told of how his grandfather, Stanley Dunham, fought in World War II while his grandmother worked on B-29s at a Boeing plant in Wichita.
"My grandparents held on to a simple dream, that they would raise my mother in a land of boundless dreams," Mr. Obama said. "I am standing here today because that dream was realized."
It is that story, seen through old images of her sitting on a park bench next to a young Mr. Obama, that has played a recurring role in television commercials during Mr. Obama's race against Senator John McCain. As the two candidates bicker about taxes and spending and health care plans, these biographical ads are intended to serve as a validation to answer the other lingering questions about Mr. Obama's candidacy.
In only one commercial can Mrs. Dunham be heard speaking. It was taped before the Iowa caucuses, but also replayed during the Pennsylvania primary, as Mr. Obama sought validation for his appeal to older women voters. Her osteoporosis was advanced, and she hunched over so severely that it was difficult for filmmakers to capture her spirit and words of support for her grandson. Only a few seconds of tape was used in the ad.
In August, as Mr. Obama prepared to accept the Democratic nomination, he delivered a long-distance message to his grandmother in a televised speech.
"Thank you to my grandmother, who helped raise me and is sitting in Hawaii somewhere right now because she can't travel, but who poured everything she had into me and who helped to make me the man I am today," Mr. Obama said. "Tonight is for her."
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What a wonderful biography of Obama & Toot. Thanks so much, Donna, for posting this. This is what makes Obama seem just like the family I have that surround me--I sure don't get any of that from McCain.
Was watching Palin speak earlier today. She kept talking about this tax credit, tax cut stuff. Claimed Obama wants the govt to take money from the people and the govt will decide what to do with it and how the govt wants to spend it, and that's a tax credit. Then she claimed McCain and she want to cut taxes, meaning they won't take as much money because it's a tax cut. She claimed McCain was for "you," and Obama was for "govt." So, if (and that's a huge if) McCain were to win, wouldn't he and Palin be the "govt" that will take our money and decide how to spend it! She's talking out of both sides of her mouth right now. But, hopefully she'll keep up the stupid til Nov 5th!
I spent the afternoon away from the political hubbub. Helped a former colleague of mine put together the baby quilt that will presented at a Celebration of Life memorial service on Nov. 6th. The quilt (embroidered blocks from the "Ferdinand the Bull" story) will be given to our friend and colleague's granddaughter (5 months old) during the service. Our friend died from lung cancer 2+ weeks ago. It was very cathartic and inspiring to work on this baby quilt. I miss my friend very much and think about her every day. I feel blessed that I can still see my granddaughter grow up, and hopefully will continue to see little Lexi until I am very, very old!
Here's to an Obama victory in less than 11 days!!!
And who was it that said they had to take down their Obama sign because the "association" told them to? Could you put the sign up in the window of your home? Seems rather picky but HOAs can be really fussy about some things.
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djd= Thank you for posting that article. I was choked up reading it from the moment I read about the corneal transplant. I think there's a possibility she can make it until election day, she sounds like she has the determination to do so. I'm sure Barack's visit gave her a boost as well. I hope she's not suffering.
grace- sorry to hear about your friend.
10 days ladies. Does everyone have their flags ready to go?
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FYI- I was watching a local election show and one of the panelists was some PA bigwig on the election board. He clarified the wearing shirts or buttons to the polls on election day. Apparently in PA where you vote can determine whether or not you can wear these things. The law reads that no election official is allowed to wear anything specifically geared to one candidate, but doesn't specify anything about voters. Most places allow voters to wear whatever campaign gear they want, particularly in the city of philly but in the suburbs some of the the election judges make their own rules and disallow the campaign gear from voters.
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Obama: Man who has been faithful to his wife, good family man.
McCain: Man who cheated on his first wife and left her after her waiting for 5 years for him to return from prison camp. Married a rich younger woman to benefit only himself.
In addition to all of the other reasons for wanting Obama in the White House, this one says alot about the character of each.
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Here's something that hasn't gotten any press, really, and I'm not a bit surprised that mcCain folks want to keep this buried. But I'm wondering if Barak will use this in his campaign. (I thought about posting this on the other side ----------->, but decided not to. One of them will slip over here and see it, and probably respond!)
On Al-Qaeda Web Sites, Joy Over U.S. Crisis, Support for McCain
By Joby Warrick and Karen DeYoung
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, October 22, 2008; A13Al-Qaeda is watching the U.S. stock market's downward slide with something akin to jubilation, with its leaders hailing the financial crisis as a vindication of its strategy of crippling America's economy through endless, costly foreign wars against Islamist insurgents.
And at least some of its supporters think Sen. John McCain is the presidential candidate best suited to continue that trend.
"Al-Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election," said a commentary posted Monday on the extremist Web site al-Hesbah, which is closely linked to the terrorist group. It said the Arizona Republican would continue the "failing march of his predecessor," President Bush.
The Web commentary was one of several posted by Taliban or al-Qaeda-allied groups in recent days that trumpeted the global financial crisis and predicted further decline for the United States and other Western powers. In language that was by turns mocking and ominous, the newest posting credited al-Qaeda with having lured Washington into a trap that had "exhausted its resources and bankrupted its economy." It further suggested that a terrorist strike might swing the election to McCain and guarantee an expansion of U.S. military commitments in the Islamic world.
"It will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaeda," said the posting, attributed to Muhammad Haafid, a longtime contributor to the password-protected site. "Al-Qaeda then will succeed in exhausting America."
It was unclear how closely the commentary reflected the views of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, who has not issued a public statement since the spring. Some terrorism experts said the support for McCain could be mere bluster by a group that may have more to fear from a McCain presidency. In any event, the comments summarized what has emerged as a consensus view on extremist sites, said Adam Raisman, a senior analyst for the Site Intelligence Group, which monitors Islamist Web pages. Site provided translations of the comments to The Washington Post.
"The idea in the jihadist forums is that McCain would be a faithful 'son of Bush' -- someone they see as a jingoist and a war hawk," Raisman said. "They think that, to succeed in a war of attrition, they need a leader in Washington like McCain."
Islamist militants have generally had less to say about Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois. Leaders of the Iranian-backed group Hezbollah expressed a favorable view of Obama during the primary campaign but later rejected the Democrat after he delivered speeches expressing support for Israel.
In an e-mail response, senior McCain foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann noted that al-Qaeda leaders have repeatedly said that America "did not have the stomach to fight them over the long haul," which the Arizona senator has pledged to do. "Whatever musings and bravado on radical websites the Washington Post chooses to quote, the fact remains that only John McCain has the experience, judgment and fortitude to lead a country at war," he said. The Obama campaign declined to comment on the Web postings.
Both the Bush administration and the two major presidential campaigns have rejected any suggestion that the economic downturn will undermine the country's fight against al-Qaeda. Obama and McCain have stepped gingerly around the issue of how they would adjust their priorities in a recession and have spoken of the importance of maintaining a strong defense. Both have advocated expanding the size of the U.S. military overall, but neither has explained in detail how to pay for it.
From shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, al-Qaeda attacks to last year, U.S. defense spending rose from 3 to 4 percent of gross domestic product, but it remains far below the 45-year average of 5.5 percent. The Pentagon's budget for fiscal 2009 is $527 billion, a figure that does not include Iraq and Afghanistan war costs, which have totaled more than $800 billion since 2001.
"History shows us that nations that are strong militarily over time have to have a strong economy," McCain said this month. He has said the United States must send more troops to Afghanistan while avoiding a withdrawal timetable from Iraq.
Obama has tied an Iraq withdrawal to increased forces in Afghanistan and the ability to fund domestic programs. The continued fight in Iraq "means we can't provide health care to people who need it," Obama said in his first debate with McCain.
"Nobody is talking about losing this war," Obama said of Iraq. "What we are talking about is recognizing that the next president has to have broader strategic vision."
It is not the first time al-Qaeda and its allies have weighed in on a Western election. Bin Laden released a video message Oct. 29, 2004, days before the U.S. presidential election, warning of plans for further attacks on U.S. targets. Some strategists for Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), the Democratic nominee, have said the timing of the message tipped the balance toward Bush, who defined himself as the anti-terrorism candidate.
The deadly train bombings in Spain that year were seen as an attempt by al-Qaeda to bring down then-Prime Minister José María Aznar, who had sent troops to Iraq. Aznar lost his reelection bid three days after the bombing.
Recent polls suggest that Iraq and terrorism are less important to most Americans than the economy. Still, terrorism experts have warned that al-Qaeda may indeed launch a major strike before the U.S. election or shortly afterward.
"The idea of testing a new president or hitting us when we're off-balance is enormously attractive to them," said Bruce Hoffman, a Georgetown University terrorism expert.
And the NYTimes had a really thought-provoking opinion about this, as well as how we have really ruined things in Somalia: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/opinion/26kristof.html?hp
One thing about this election cycle--I have become far more aware of world events and how our American choices/decisions impact them.
Anne
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That is so weird folks, why on earth would al-Qaeda support John McCain...reverse psychology? I don't know. Scary stuff.
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But I don't see this news on the other major news stations.
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Anne- I would think that the Obama sided wouldn't want to be seen as trying to capitalize on anything terror related (unlike McCain and his buddies). From what I've been seeing, I think each campaign spends a lot of time on their blackberries emailing story ideas and talking points to the press. That's how the fake attack on the campaign worker went viral so fast. The news stations in pittsburgh said that they only learned about the attack from the McCain campaign, the woman didn't want medical attention or the police to be brought in. The Obama campaign has never been sleazy or one to try to scare people into voting for him.
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Donna, thanks for sharing that lovely article.
Grace, my condolences on the loss of your friend. I know you were close.
Summer, I think this section of the NYT op-ed explains the Al Qaeda "endorsement" best:
Yet the endorsement of Mr. McCain by a Qaeda-affiliated Web site isn't a surprise to security specialists. Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism director, and Joseph Nye, the former chairman of the National Intelligence Council, have both suggested that Al Qaeda prefers Mr. McCain and might even try to use terror attacks in the coming days to tip the election to him.
"From their perspective, a continuation of Bush policies is best for recruiting," said Professor Nye, adding that Mr. McCain is far more likely to continue those policies.
An American president who keeps troops in Iraq indefinitely, fulminates about Islamic terrorism, inclines toward military solutions and antagonizes other nations is an excellent recruiting tool. In contrast, an African-American president with a Muslim grandfather and a penchant for building bridges rather than blowing them up would give Al Qaeda recruiters fits.
I don't see any real benefit in Obama using this against McCain, however, which is probably why we haven't heard that much about it. I don't think Obama wants to give credibility and publicity to any terrorist group. And at this point, he doesn't really need to; he's winning on the economy.
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Anchorage Daily News supports Obama
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Donna...great story!!! I'm hoping she is here to see her grandson become President!!! I am now deleting any and all republican stories, or Obama bashing that comes to my mailbox. I'm not even looking at it. No more negative stuff from them. We are on the home stretch. I'm staying focused on Barack and the good things to come!!!!! We truly are almost there!! I can feel the victory!!! :-) Rock the VOTE!!
Enjoy the w/e and get ready for a wild week!!
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g- what type of mailing lists are you on? I've only gotten pro-obama stuff since the campaign began.
cp- thanks for posting the article. I was surprised the article was somewhat positive about Palin. I think she's drawn nothing but negative images about Alaska with her ethics scandals and lack of knowledge about how the federal government works. Most of the things she doesn't know are things kids learn in high school. When they mentioned McCain was the wrong candidate, I wondered what republican they would have preferred instead. I do have to say I love Piper Palin and I hope she survives her childhood to become a free thinker.
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amy...my republican brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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g- your brother is trying to drag you into the gutter with the rest of them.
Something moronic to come out of Palin's side of the campaign today. Equally dense and annoying Elizabeth Hasselbeck ranted that wardrobe gate was sexist (guess she forgot about slamming John Edwards for his $400 haircut- was that sexist too) and two secounds later she said Sarah Palin was good a cleaning and was going to clean house in washington. Now, if someone else had said that, she'd be the first to say that was sexist. The only cleaning job Palin is going to have in the white house is if she decides to change her career to become a maid and Obama decides she's not too annoying to hire.
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Good article from the Anchorage News. Made me smile!
Nicki
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Wow, 100,000 supporters in Denver! Awwwsomme.
Meanwhile over in Iowa . . . McCain appears with Charles Grassley, the guy he cussed out and came to blows with on the Senate floor, at a rally attended by 2,600. Sounds like Grassley was taking one for the team.
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Not only a sea of supporters in Denver today, but a line two and a half miles long at the CSU campus to get screened to see him. They finally just let everyone in. I love hearing about the big turnouts on college campuses. Now, if these kids will just vote early...and that's a big part of the message.
It was a gorgeous fall day in Colorado for these two rallies. We've got a great chance of turning this red state blue!
The Washington Post had an interesting op-ed article by a republican about how the repubs need to concede McCain and funnel all remaining $$ to the "down ballot". I don't even think that will work this time.
Anne
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Why is voting early so important? I have the opportunity to do that but just thought I would wait until November 4th. There should not be any lines as it's at the local grammar school. I can walk to it.
I'm loving to hear that the crowd was 100,000 plus. It's time for a change and I'm proud that we have a candidate who is young, vibrant, and hungry to create a better world for all of us.
Nicki
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EARLY VOTING...the republican's are famous for "last min. problems" at the voting booths!! Especially in a typical red state that is starting to turn blue!! GET THE VOTE IN!!!! If you can vote early...do it!!!!!!!!
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How much do you think the Republicans can screw up voting in Illinois lol?
Nicki
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Why take the chance nic
? I never put anything past them because the crooks among them always seem to rise to a greater level of criminal behavior to steal elections.Anne- Barack is coming to speak where I went to grad school on Tuesday. I thought about trying to get down there, but I'm not up for waiting outside at 6 am in the cold weather. If I hadn't yet seen him, I would have gone in a heartbeat.
I'm sick to death of hearing the repubs spinning wardrobe-gate as something sexist. They were the first to complain about J Edwards' $400 hair cut. If Edwards had been a republican woman, they would have called it sexist. Then they try to throw this back on something the democrats are creating, talking about Barack's $1500 suits, probably not realizing he could have 100 suits, enough suits for the rest of his life and then some, for the price of her 2 month wardrobe. John McCain further stepped in it when he said Palin lives a "modest life"- maybe compared to his 7 houses it seems modest, but to many middle class americans owning a sea plane and having that large house is not at all a modest life. 8 more days.... I only hope that Palin goes away forever, but I fear we're going to be hearing more from her
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Palin is holding a rally at 10 in our town today. It's 9:20ish and the roads are clear. No traffic problems.
Obama's rally last week was at 5. The roads were totally blocked starting at 1 p.m. Maybe that means that Virginia is finally seeing straight and will vote blue this time.
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WTG Virginia! Sorry to hear she's going to be in your town, but glad the roads are clear.
When I went to the Obama rally we got the crowds going with positivity about Obama and the country. Why do the republicans need negativity to get enthusiastic? Do you think they're voting against Obama by chosing McCain or they really like McCain. I know I've always been for Obama. When Bush ran I voted against him, I wasn't overly ethusiastic about the Gore or Kerry, but this time my vote is definitely positive.
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Since we are all affected by breast cancer on this site, I believe that healthcare is of the upmost importance to all of us. Therefore I went on an information gathering expedition and I want to share with you exactly what I found. I will include links to the pages so you can verify for yourself full texts obiviously due to length. Just take a moment to read then do your own research.
We all know that Europe has socialized medicine.
Published in the December 15, 2002, issue of the Journal of Clinical Oncology
"In Europe, where medicine is socialized and doctors have the incentive to use the least expensive approach that works the best, endocrine therapy has been much more widely accepted. In the US, where oncologists get paid more by the insurance companies for giving chemotherapy and the pharmaceutical companies are powerful, chemotherapy has been a greater focus of research efforts and is the mainstay of adjuvant treatment for premenopausal women diagnosed with breast cancer."
Europe 'failing on breast cancer'
US women are more likely to survive breast cancer than their European counterparts because they are diagnosed earlier, research finds.
The study in the journal Cancer by an international researchers analysed data on more than 17,000 patients. The five year survival rate in the US was 89% compared to 79% in Europe. However, 41% of the US cases were diagnosed at an early stage, compared to just 29% in Europe.
The research suggests that screening programmes and awareness of the signs of breast cancer among women are better in the US, allowing tumours to be picked up at an earlier stage. It could also be that there is less of a delay between a woman visiting her doctor with suspicions of a breast lump and a diagnosis being made.
Professor Michel Coleman, of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine said: "These findings reveal the urgent need to allocate more resources to ensure earlier diagnosis of breast cancer in Europe."
here is the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3353651.stm
A WOMAN suffering from breast cancer has run out of time to benefit from a potentially life-extending drug which the National Health Service (NHS) denied her, even though she was prepared to pay for it. The government claims that to allow some patients to pay for additional drugs on top of their NHS treatment creates a two-tier system between those who can and cannot afford them.
Becoming an entirely private patient would have cost Mills, from near Stokesley, North Yorkshire, about £10,000 a month instead of about £4,000 solely to pay for the Avastin and its administration. Although she could have tried to raise the funds such as finding a loan, she believes it is a fundamental principle that the NHS should continue to fund her basic care for which she has paid through her taxes. The Department of Health, however, said top-up payments would "undermine" the "fundamental principle of the NHS, now supported by all the main political parties, that treatment should be free at the point of need".
here is the link: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9679
Michael Cannon, director of health policy studies at Cato institute says "A reasonable definition of socialized medicine: Socialized medicine exists to the extent that government controls medical resources and socializes the costs. By that definition, America's health sector is already more than half socialized, and Obama's health care plan would socialize medicine even further. Reasonable people can disagree over whether Obama's health plan would be good or bad. But to suggest that it is not a step toward socialized medicine is absurd."
Here is the link: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9679
Under Obama's healthcare plan "Private insurance companies would still exist, but they would operate much like public utilities with the government involved in deciding what benefits they offer, what they can charge, and how they operate.
So, if you have an insurance policy that you are happy with today, but it does not match the type of plan that Sen. Obama thinks you should have, then you will have to switch plans, even if the new plan costs more."
Here is the link: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9742
Now, I am sure I will get blasted but I didn't make up these facts, I am merely sharing with you what research shows. I want us all to have the very best medicine has to offer, whether we are democrat or republican.
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You're wrong about that Moody, Obama specifically says you can keep your policy if you're happy with it or go with the same coverage he has as a US senator. Please don't post your misinformation on here. Go to Obama's site if you want to read his health plan. I even got the link for you http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ . Your misinformation comes from a person with liberatarian/republican views that are geared away from everyone having access to health care.
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Amy: I agree.... statements from the Cato Institute don't hold a lot of clout with me me either.
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US Women are more likely to get BC than European women. Speaking first hand, my cousin is a nurse in Germany and the public health system is better than anything we have here. I'm not going to bother to debunk all the other crap in the above post.
I just got off the phone with my neighbor, who is on the fence (?) and thinking she is not going to vote at all but if she does, it would be the troll. So, I asked her why and she said well first because of his birth certificate. I told her that was a bunch of crap hased up by the right, that she can pull it up on line. And then she came up with all the urban legends of Obama. And also thought that the rest of the world would come after us when Obama gets in. I told her on a global scale, they are all rooting for Obama/Biden and my thoughts are if the troll gets in, then we're going to see some problems. So..I enlightened her and told her I would be happy to come over and discuss with her and her husband. At the end of the conversation she was indeed thinking of Obama in a better light. I will keep working on them!! All that is needed is knowledge!! Those that choose not to accept it are the sheep.
Amy..in Meet the Press this Sunday, the troll said that his side kick leads a "frugal" life. Me and hubby just looked at each other and started laughing. Yeah....frugal. My hubby is the type that is no way going quietly. We have been to many a peace rally where he has been targeted by the swat teams for voicing his opinion. I think this is where I learned to be the squeaky wheel. Because being quiet, dosn't work. So..again..lets get loud this week! Let everyone know who you are voting for!!! Odds are, they are too!
OBAMA '08....it's almost here!!!!!!!!!!!
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g- Ugh- your neighbor sounds like my landlords. You made more headway than I have with the dense ones. I've heard them called low information voters on several different stations--- the ones who take Faux's talk show hosts as fact. I couldn't bear to watch McCain on meet the press, but I did hear where he said he only believes the poll that has him 1% behind, not any of the other ten or twelve polls. Typical. Same like the fundamentals of the economy are sound and Sarah Palin didn't violate her gubernatorial ethics. White is black and black is white and down is up and up is down.
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