Breast cancer preventable: Is this true?

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anneshirley
anneshirley Member Posts: 1,110

I just cut this out of Google and would like to hear comments as to whether there is any truth to this statement.  I read and read and read when I was diagnosed with BC, mainly technical articles, and never once read that BC could be prevented.  Sure, there were lots of studies on fat and alchohol intake, etc. but not a single definitive study that suggested this disease could have been prevented.  I suppose I could have had ten children and breast fed them all--before I turned 30, but that is hardly a rational way of preventing breast cancer. So, is this true, and if not, what do we do to make these types of articles "preventable."

In the National Breast Cancer Awareness Month, we'd like women to be aware that breast cancer is largely a preventable disease and they can avoid the disease by simply following a healthy lifestyle including healthy diet.

 

Below is a summary of reports we reported on diet and lifestyle and risk of breast cancer to give readers some basic ideas as to what they can do to lower their risk.

 

1)       A new study published   online on August 27, 2008 in American Journal of Epidemiology Advance Access   suggests increased intake of dietary vitamin D such as taking vitamin D supplements and exposure to sunlight may reduce the risk for breast cancer by more than 20 percent.   Another study by researchers from the Johns Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center and other organizations suggests that taking vitamin D supplements may help breast cancer patients.   The study led by Dr. Nancy Davidson, director of the breast cancer program and colleagues showed women with breast cancer who had a vitamin D deficiency at the time diagnosis had a higher risk of recurrence or death from the disease.   Davidson and team found only 24 percent of the patients had adequate levels of vitamin D in their blood when the disease was diagnosed, which the researchers said suggests that vitamin D deficiency is linked to poorer outcomes in breast cancer patients.

 

2)       A new study in the journal Breast Cancer Research indicates that women with a mutation in the gene BRCA1, which predisposes women to breast cancer, should avoid putting weight in early adulthood, especially if they plan to have children.   The study found that women with a mutation in BRCA1 were 65 percent less likely to develop breast cancer if they lost weight between 18 and 30 years of age.

 

3)       Radiation therapy often used in breast cancer patients can lead to angiosarcoma, an uncommon yet very aggressive malignant neoplasm in the breast, according to a case report authored by Kunkel T and colleagues at Ludwig-Maximilians-University Munich in Munich, Germany.   The report titled "Recurrence of secondary angiosarcoma in a patient with post-radiated breast for breast cancer" was published in the Nov, 2008 issue of Archives of gynecology and obstetrics.

 

4)        A recent study published in the August 18, 2008 issue of Carcinogenesis suggests that diet and lifestyle make a huge difference. The study showed that high fiber bread was significantly associated with a 25 percent decreased breast cancer risk.   High fiber bread was also linked to reduced risk of both estrogen receptor alpha positive and estrogen receptor beta positive breast cancer.

 

5)       One study released in the April-June, 2008 issue of Asian Pacific journal of cancer prevention showed poor antioxidant status was associated with increased risk of breast cancer.   Specially, low intake of vitamin A was linked with 200 percent higher risk of the disease while low intake of vitamin E was associated with a nearly 300 percent higher risk compared to those who had high intake of these antioxidants.   The study was conducted by Sharhar S and colleagues at National University of Malaysia.

 

6)       A UK study reported in British Journal of Cancer (2007) 96, 1139-1146 suggests that eating processed meat can drastically increase risk for breast cancer. The study led by E. F. Taylor at the University of Leeds in the UK and colleagues found those who ate the highest amounts of processed meat were 64 percent more likely to have breast cancer than those who did not eat any.

 

7)       The latest report on diet and cancer risk published by the American Institute for Cancer Research (AICR) shows convincing evidence that alcohol intake raises risk for breast cancer. For every 3 ounces of wine, 9 ounces of beer or 1 ounce of 80-proof liquor consumed each day, the risk can be increased by 6 to 10 percent.

 

8)       A study in the October 1, 2008 issue of the International Journal of Cancer showed high omega 6 fatty acids in the diet could raise risk of breast cancer.    And good news is that heterocyclic amines commonly formed in protein-rich foods such as meat and fish prepared at high temperature do not appear to increase the risk.

 

9)       Overweight women may be more likely to be diagnosed with advanced breast cancer, according to a new study presented at the Population Health 2008 Conference in Brisbane.

 

10)    A study by Dr. Theodore Widlanski and colleagues from Indiana University and the University of California and published in the journal Chemistry & Biology showedbreast cancer cells can pick up bisphenol A indicating that this chemical may have something to do with the development of breast cancer.   A study published Dec. 8 in the online edition of Reproductive Toxicology suggests that exposure of female fetuses to bisphenol A or BPA may likely increase their risk of breast cancer in adulthood.

 

11)    Eating too much meat and sweets may increase risk of breast cancer in postmenopausal women, particularly those with heavy weight, a new study suggests.   The Shanghai Breast Cancer Study published in the journal Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention found women who followed a Western-style diet full of meat; sugar, and refined grain were at a much higher risk of breast cancer compared to those who ate large amounts of vegetables, soy and freshwater fish.

 

12)    Long term daily use of ibuprofen was linked to an increased risk of breast cancer and long term daily use of aspirin was linked to an increased risk of estrogen receptor /progesterone receptor (ER/PR)-negative breast cancer, according to a new study in the June 1 issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

                 

13)     Hormone replacement therapy (HRT) increases risk of recurrence of breast cancer, according to a new study in the journal of the National Cancer Institute.   The study showed that women with breast cancer who used hormone replacement therapy were twice as likely as those who did not to have recurrence of the disease.

 

Breast cancer is expected to be diagnosed in more than 185,000 women and to kill 45,000 each year in the United States.   No significant progress has been made to reduce the risk ever since the cancer war was declared in 1971.   Each year, the National Breast Cancer Awareness Month campaign supported by medical organizations and a drug company seems only interested in rounding up women for screenings and early detection.   While early diagnosis and treatment are important, prevention is even more important.  Luckily for those who want to control the fate of their lives, there is something they can do to help prevent the disease.



 

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  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited October 2008

    I hear you, girl!

    And what I read is that these are all risk reductions, not preventions.

    So it is very misleading to say we could have prevented our breast cancers. Once again, we are made to feel like we caused our disease unless we lived in a sterile bubble.

    The way to prevent breast cancer?? Don't have breasts.

    Is there anywhere near this much speculation of risk reduction for other cancers?

    Anne

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited October 2008

    I'm with Anne---this is a crock==notice most of them say a study "suggests".  As I've said, way too often, that when the news announced that the long term nurse's study suggested that french fries contribuited to cance---I quit listening to the Henny Penny's who offer these "suggestions".

    I got bc because I had breasts.

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited October 2008

    I can see why they keep coming up with such articles.  In essence they'd like us to live a healthier lifestyle.  Sorry to say, if we did everyone of them listed above, and drank our green tea everyday, (I don't see that listed)  we'd probably still be here talking with each other.  Fully knowing that I probably am not getting any benefit from green tea, it still gives me comfort that maybe it will and I won't have a recurrence.  And if I gave up chocolate and drank the tea, my bones would stay strong.  I believe, I believe.  But I still can't give up all chocolate, so the tea better be working anyway.

    Plus, I've read the exact opposite of what they said about long term aspirin use.  They can't even make up their own minds.

    What I would love to see them do is give every woman a vitamin D blood test on the day they were dx'd. I would love to know how huge this finding really is.  A deficiency could be the culprit for a lot of us but they won't do the testing to find out.  

  • Dejaboo
    Dejaboo Member Posts: 2,916
    edited October 2008

    I would love to see that Vit D test done also- On the day of DX like you said.   I had mine done 4 months after DX & I had already been taking D3 that whole time & Also soaking up the summer sun...So Im sure it did not reflect what I was on DX

    I too have read both on Aspirin - it prevents & it causes- Just read that one yesterday...

    I know someone on this forum has taken daily aspirin for 20 years & we know why she is on the forum. 

    I think some things like Low fat diet may appea tor help some women not get BC.   But only because they probably wouldnt have gotten it anyway.  There are just too many healthy life style women that get bc.

    Pam

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited October 2008

    Shrortly after diagnosis I was told by a doctor, in a social setting, that 90% of all cancers were preventable through diet and exercise. Needless to say, I don't socialize with her anymore. (My BMI index at the time was 25 and I exercised moderately (daily walking), so what was she  trying to say?)

    I'm with Anne -- risk reduction does not equal prevention. I've seen several items recently about increased risks for things like birth length that are not modifiable by anyone. We are not to blame for our cancers!

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited October 2008

    Just glancing through the list of articles, my ball-park estimate is that at least 25-30% of breast cancers were in the "good" group: adequate vitamin D, A and/or E, high-fiber bread, optimum weight, no processed meat, no alcohol, etc.  So even the studies cited as "evidence" seem to "suggest" that at least one-third of breast cancers are not preventable, at least given the current state of knowledge.

    Bah humbug!

  • shari1232
    shari1232 Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2008
    I received a similar email from an aquaintence yesterday.  No sugar.  No sugar substitutes.  Limit molasses or any sweetener.  No meat.  Raw vegetables.  No milk.  So many other things.  AND, of course, attitude played in as a factor as to getting and recovering from BC.  Thanks, friend.  Undecided  I'm sure all the fitness and nutrition folks who are always perky as they undergo chemo are so glad to have this news flash.
  • Liz08
    Liz08 Member Posts: 470
    edited October 2008

    If we knew for sure what causes breast cancer, we'd know how to prevent it.  I have a BMI of around 21, exercised, ate healthy, never smoked, had/have the occasional glass of red wine with dinner and still got BC. I see overweight people eating "garbage" and smoking and their cancer free.  On the other hand, I see "fitness and nutritions" folks getting cancer.  Some how this just doesn't make sense Foot in mouth.   I forgot to mention there's no history to BC in my family; I'm the youngest of 6 girls and I have an aunt who's 103 and other aunts who are well into their 80's & 90's and no BC.  The only difference is that everyone I mentioned in this post came from Europe either in their teens or later and I have lived my whole like in the U.S.  Could it be due to the chemicals in the environment, meaning the U.S.? Could it be that having a stressfull life caused my immune system to break down?  Stress affects us all differently; some develop a heart condition, constantly get sick (colds), ulcers,  cancer etc.  We can try to guess what's the "acutal" cause but we'll all come up with a different answer. There are so many theories that it can make our head spin.  Wishing everyone the very best.

  • lisa39
    lisa39 Member Posts: 255
    edited October 2008

    What about the fact that having dense breasts increases BC risk by 30%?  Or having your first period before age 12?  Or, as AnneShirley said - having your first child after age 30?  None of the poorly researched articles in the mass media mention these "big 3" risk factors. They all focus on the fact that being overweight and drinking alcohol raise risks - placing blame on the patient.  I can think of so many women I know with BC who are slim, exercise regularly and limit their alcohol intake.  What about them?  Shari - I had a "friend" who gave me a similar lecture over the phone when I was newly diagnosed.  It was not helpful at all! 

  • anneshirley
    anneshirley Member Posts: 1,110
    edited October 2008

    I find the notion that every disease is preventable ludicrous at best. Certainly, some are, and I believe most of us are concerned enough to prevent such diseases, by giving up smoking, for example, to prevent lung cancer.  But the top comes off my head when I read that I am in some way the cause of my breast cancer.  Until there is a definitive study which shows incontrovertibly that something I did in my lifetime caused my breast cancer, I wish these people would just shut up.   And if there was something I should have done or should not have done, it would have been better  had they told me about it sooner.  Perhaps some of these people could aim their darts at prostate cancer and leave us alone. 

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited October 2008

    Anneshirley, et al.:  I hear you.

    I know this is going to sound awful, and I will probably edit this post to delete much of what I've written here after it festers for awhile, but...

    As far as I know (AFAIK), the only 100% sure-fire way to prevent BC is to die before you reach puberty.  Really.

    Think about it.

    Here's the opening statement from that Google garbage:

    "In the National Breast Cancer Awareness Month, we'd like women to be aware that breast cancer is largely a preventable disease and they can avoid the disease by simply following a healthy lifestyle including healthy diet."

    You really wanna know what I think about a statement like that?

    I HATE it.  It is a horrible, nasty, egregiously false statement.  That someone would say something like that in public during "BC Awareness Month" is especially heinous.  That someone would expect intelligent people to believe it, especially considering the supporting evidence provided with the statement, is a testimony to the writer's ignorance.  (Dare I say "cruelty"?)

    If I were feeling vindictive today, I would say this:  People who make statements like that ought to be condemned to a death that is, according to society, "largely preventable" through a simple change in lifestyle that they, of couse, cannot manage to adopt--just so they can feel what it's like.

    Breast cancer is not "largely preventable."  There is no evidence to substantiate such a claim--not in the articles cited in that report, not in the medical literature--nowhere.  OK, OK, maybe in some of the snakeoil publications that tout bizarre and unproven strategies.  But, not in commonly accepted, evidence-based medical practice.

    The single most prominent risk factor for developing BC is being female.  Want to do something about reducing that risk?  Nope, not me, either.

    Look at the excerpts from all those articles cited in the statement.  Almost every one of them talks about "risk factors."   XYZ "increases the risk" or "reduces the risk."  Those are gambling words.  It's a crapshoot.  We're talking probability.  There is no "sure thing" described in any of those articles.  You can reduce your risk, but you cannot eliminate it.   Reduce your risk by 20% if you do XYZ, and you still retain 80% of your original chance of developing BC.  Etc.

    The risks are not additive unless tested and proven so.  Thus, you cannot reduce your risk 30% by not doing XYZ, and reduce your risk 40% by doing more EFG, and reduce your risk 10% by lowering your QRS, and reduce your risk 20% by eating lots of ABC, and...voila!  100 - (30+40+10+20) = zero risk!  You've changed 4 things in your life, and you've prevented breast cancer!  Hogwash.

    The other great fallacy in such articles (or their interpretation) is the assumption that, if more XYZ increases the risk of BC, less XYZ, or elimination of XYZ, will reduce the risk.  Once again, logic notwithstanding, that assumption is not valid unless tested and proven so.

    Whew.  Can you tell I've had a couple of stressful days?  Is it obvious that two of the appointments I made 6 weeks ago were abruptly cancelled on me?  Is it apparent that I fell yesterday and wrenched my back, bruised my shoulder, and skinned the elbow on my LE arm?

    OK, I think you know where I stand on whether BC is preventable.  I'll shut up now.

    otter 

  • Dejaboo
    Dejaboo Member Posts: 2,916
    edited October 2008

    Yeah Otter!   So well said!  Dont delete or Edit your Post.

    I cant believe that you found this on a google:

    Here's the opening statement from that Google garbage:

    "In the National Breast Cancer Awareness Month, we'd like women to be aware that breast cancer is largely a preventable disease and they can avoid the disease by simply following a healthy lifestyle including healthy diet."

    Well I believe it- I just cant believe it actually said that.  What crap!!

    Im sorry they canceled your Appointments!  More crap.  Sorry to hear about your Injuries too- Feel better soon! I hope the Skinned Elbow does not effect your LE

    Pam

  • anneshirley
    anneshirley Member Posts: 1,110
    edited October 2008

    Otter--don't shut up; I wanted to see some passion on this as that article really blew my mind, particularly as it was so prominently featured.  It's not only the lack of truth and science in it, it's that people who know nothing about BC believe it.  Then we have to deal with people telling us how great it is that we're cured--and yesterday a publisher was advertising a book "After the Cure" on this thread, which also blew my mind.  The Board's rule says specifically no advertisements yet it's still here after I reported it.  I did write to the publisher and also called, so that got rid of a lot of my anger.

    Sorry about the stressful days and the fall.  Hope you are better real soon. 

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited October 2008

    I dislike this kind of stuff too.

    If it's "preventable" then it's your fault you got it.

    Was it my fault I was born female?

    Living a healthy lifestyle is good because you might feel better, if you don't have bad genes. I'm getting to the point where I don't really read this stuff anymore. 

  • mittmott
    mittmott Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2008

    I also just read in the newspaper the other day, that eating broccoli can greatly reduce your risk of Breast Cancer also.  I cracked up laughing.  I'm always doing the weight watchers points, and I live on the stuff.  It's the only veg. I can really just steam and enjoy, and it's a great filler, when your'e starving.  My family is always yelling about how I smell the house up cooking it all the time.  What a joke, meanwhile, I've had 2 rounds of bc in 6 yrs.  I don't smoke, don't drink, and I'm a vegetarian, so much for all of that.

  • swimangel72
    swimangel72 Member Posts: 1,989
    edited October 2008

    I don't read this stuff anymore either. Like Otter said, it's "hogwash". It's all part of the "let's blame the victim" mind-set- and even more, "let's blame the fat women." Yes I am somewhat overweight - yes I got bc - but so did my dh's very thin, gorgeous, shapely younger cousin. The only thing she and I have in common is that we are both women - OH - and we both lived MANY years in Nassau County on Long Island which has one of the highest rates of BC in the country. I have my own theory about how I got BC - and it has nothing to do with any of the things listed in that ridiculous article. Environmental pollutants that I was exposed to before I even had breasts were probably responsible - DDT to be specific. Oh and let's not forget all the PCB's that were dumped into the LI Sound and the Hudson River..........they are so much a part of our food chain - I think everyone I grew up with harbors a ticking cancer bomb of one sort or another waiting to explode.  

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited October 2008

    Taking all that info into account, can they tell us why mummies have been known to have bc---yep!  Must have been all the stress!

  • sccruiser
    sccruiser Member Posts: 1,119
    edited October 2008

    This is a bunch of baloney!! No wonder some of us end up with depression and on anti-depression drugs, and in therapy for 3 years (I still am). As far as I'm concerned, each one of us is different. We could all pick something out of there to "prevent" our bc, or even more than one, and it's probably the wrong things to prevent us developing bc.

    AND SKINNY PEOPLE GET BREAST CANCER TOO!!!.

    And I suppose I'm responsible for developing lymphedema also because I could have prevented it if I lived a healthy lifestyle-low fat diet and exercise. Well, thin people get LE also.

    I don't see them harping at men who develop prostate cancer that they could "prevent" it if they did what that article is telling us to do.

    I'm so pissed off, I'd like to have that person who wrote that blasted thing in a locked room with a bunch of us haranguing him/her (surely a her didn't write it, right?) for hours on end about all the false leads given in that article.

    Well, I'm going to bed--and calm down (that will be the next thing they tell us will prevent cancer--just be calm and don't get mad! Hah!

    I think there are so many causes for cancer, it would take many pieces of paper to list them all. And who knows why each of us developed it. Eeny-meeny-minee-moe! Pick your poison! 

  • Skye64
    Skye64 Member Posts: 109
    edited October 2008

    I agree......I am always looking for the reason why I got BC. No family history, first period with 13, breastfeeding 2 kids ( I had my kids when I was 23 and 25). No smoking, never , no drinking alkohol, running 50-70 k a week 10 years, healthy food, no fast food, no family problems...so what the hell is causing this disease.....maybe the whole enviroment..... I really do not know.....

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited October 2008

    The first documented case of breast cancer was in Egypt in 1500 bc.  A lot of the stuff in our diets and environment today didnt even exist back then.  There is more to it...are we any closer to solving the mystery of why we get breast cancer even 2500 year later?  I sure hope so. 

  • Yogi70
    Yogi70 Member Posts: 654
    edited October 2008

    Articles like that are misleading and very dangerous. I agree with Grace. I'm sick and tired of people telling me what caused my cancer. One lady (yes, another woman) told me I probably got it from the deodorant I wear. What a crock of s___! If we knew what caused cancer the medical community, and pharmaceutical companies would go bankrupt. And we wouldn't be here on this board. I swear sometimes people are idiots.

  • snhb
    snhb Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2008

    I totally agree with all of you ladies.  Articles like this make me feel physically ill.  Seriously, how dare these idiots have the nerve to suggest such crap. 

    If someone would spend one tenth of the time and energy that they put into writing nonsensical articles like this and spend that time actually looking for and finding a cure now that would be something. 

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, if breast cancer primarily affected men, there would have been a cure found already!!!  Notice how they developed a  simple blood test to detect prostate cancer so quickly??  The prostate is a gland, breasts are glands, so how come there isn't a simple blood test to detect BC??  Hmm, could it be that only men have a prostate!! 

     Did you know that up until, I believe it was like the 1960's, new drugs were only tested on white males?? So, women and any other ethnicity was left out of the studies.  Since, drugs are metabolized differently by women there could have been a drug that while ineffective in treating diseases in white males, may have been helpful in treating a disease like BC in women.  But because we weren't included in the trials, we'll never know.

    Anyway, I agree with all of you, crap like this that is out there just makes me want to scream!!

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