The Respectfully Republican Conversation

I might have said, "everyone who prefers one of the other guys."  I just assumed anyone reading would know what I meant and fill in the name that was appropriate.  It wasn't meant to be disrespecful of John McCain.  I was listening to Bill Clinton the other day regarding something similar to what's happening on these threads and liked what he said, which is that he never assigns motive to people's words or actions.  None of us can see into another's heart and we should never assume we can.   Pansy is not a racist and I hope she returns soon.

"Pansy and Odalys are not entitled to post something as truth that is not truth, no matter what the name of the thread." 

This statement is completely inaccurate.  Neither one of us said it was the truth or that we agreed with it. We were simply commenting on the email that is going around and how there are similarities with Obama.  Since when does one person or group of individuals have the right to sensor us?  More to the point...this is a free country...a democracy!  I for one, intent to vote for McCain this Nov because I know he will make sure we remain a democracy.  This is what matters most to me in this time of war.      

 Pansy - No need to apologize.   You did nothing wrong in sharing an email you received.  I hope you return because no one has the right to intimidate you!  You have every right to be here.  

I never said the post was racist, I said that some people might think it was racist, and in the process think Pansy was also. I did not threaten her, I honestly would not want her to be thought of as a racist. And that is what my comments truly were. Anneshirley is right, in that you cannot always know what the intent is in someone's heart by their word. I only thought that the post should be removed as it served no purpose but to spread more lies about a candidate.

Anneshirley, I repeat, I did not say the post was racist. And I did not say that I found it to be racist. Of course, I know that not all things that are said about a person of color are racist, after all it depends on who's doing the saying.

Honestly, what was posted does nothing to improve or enhance the dialogue and issues of the various candidates.

On the "over there" thread I have never used "vagina" to describe any female candidate. As I said "over there" I actually don't find anything negative about using that word at all. I'm very proud of having a vagina, and some have said the steel ovaries to go with it. I attempted to demonstrate on the "over there" thread that using that word has no power with me.

Now, I will take myself to a happier place of bliss--my lovely garden under the redwood trees, and will contemplate on who I might cast my absentee ballot for President of this great country. 

Is Obama a muslin, I take him at his word and his life style that says NO.  Is it a question to be asked only because of his lack of forthcoming.  The only two friends and roommates that can be found from his College days in California are mid eastern muslins.  The only address that can be tied to him in college in NYC is a palistinian muslin that was a drug dealer,  OB sponsor to Harvard was a muslin that not only worked for Arab prince, but help organize black muslims in the US.  OB seems to have close association with Isaral hating ex U of Chicago prop. that is now at Columbia that help arrange speach for Iranian leader.  As a community organizer in Chicargo, OB worked with and friends with Whight, Flanney, Dorthey Tillman, Eva Carruthers.  All strong supporters of Lewis Farakan, all worked with him in the South side community, but OB acts like he never met the man. 

So is Obama a muslin, No,  does he lie and hide and decieve and shade and misrepresent his mentors and associations.   Yes  Does he say one thing to one group and another to others.  Yes.  Should his past be looked at, yes.  But he reads pretty, and he is That One..So I guess we will get what we pay for, and pay for, and pay for, and pay for, and pay for.

Donna, here I go sticking my head where it doesn't belong.  My question is, why do people feel like they have to run to the mods.  I was on another board some time back (it shut down), and NEVER, EVER reported anyone.  I felt like I was mature enough to handle myself EVEN IF I was "attacked."  And, Donna, I learned through that experience I had to get a thick skin.  I learned to ignore things with which I disagreed.  I feel like it's like, I'M GONNA TELL MY MOMMY!

I have almost completely stopped going over <------------------------------------- because what your posters has to say is absolutely horrible.  And, I'm sure you feel the same about our posters.  Well, that's why we have two different threads.  Except, we don't tell people who can post on OUR thread and who cannot.

BTW, I didn't see Pansy's post, but I'm pretty sure it's something anyone and everyone could have ignored if they didn't like it.  Now I see Pansy has changed her name to "Gone."  Do you suppose she left this community or this political discussion because YOU reported her. What a shame.  Sisters who have/had bc can't agree to disagree.  Sad, sad, sad.

Hmmm...I wonder if our community should go have some posts deleted on a specific thread on this board.  I hate a woman being called a VAGINA!  It is disrespectful to ALL women!  It's demeaning no matter how you put it!  And, I totally HATE IT!  But, being the nice person I am you can keep the VAGINA description over <--------------------------------------.  Heck, a lopsided, onesided boobless woman.  But I have guts to read those posts over <----------------------------- and no matter how angry I got (because I've stopped going over there much anymore and when I do I skim over posts because I decided it's not worth upsetting MYSELF over what you have to say because we're not going to change your minds and YOU ARE NOT going to CHANGE OUR MINDS) I would never report one of the poster's remarks.  And, yes, Donna, my daughters are so intelligent and I did do a good job and  they can think on their own EXCEPT they don't have time to investigate who's the better candidate.  Well, one does. 

Now, I'll go get my trash can and throw up!  Oh, and you can report me if you want.

Shirley

And guess who handed out the money and it really wasn't to the schools directly.  Obama did.  The money was never geared for math programs or science.  Some of that money found its way into ACORN pockets.  What a surprise.  I still want to know the name of the democrat Senator who earmarked money to ACORN in the enhanced bail-out proposal.  Was it Senator Obama? 

Hi Nicki.  Nice to see you here.

Suzfive - Hugo Chavez and the Castro brothers....oh Lord don't get me started on them.

I find this interesting.  Ferraro dismisses Obama's relationship with Ayers, but says that Ayers should not be teaching at the University because he's a radical.  Hmmmmm.....You can hear what she has to say at about 3:08 minutes.  This was about the "town hall" debate and what people want to hear.  A guy wants to know about Obama's relationships. "The University should fire that guy because what an example is he giving to young people today that, it's okay..you can civil protest because that is what our nation's about, but you cannot, you cannot, (act (I think)...inaudible to me ) indiscriminately  with an orgainization who takes innocent lives and he still proud of that 40 years later and I find that offensive and if I were to do anything I would say, University fire that him."  She says something else but I cannot understand her.

Ferraro Weighs In

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN71VJurykc

Hey, Nicki, my friend (just had to say that..McCain's favorite saying...LOL).  Yeah, we need a good recipe.  I saw one for chocolate cake..a big, fattening chocolate cake.  If I knew it was good I'd make it and freeze it for Thanksgiving...kids coming.  I'm going to do some cooking and freezing so there'll be a lot less to do.  I did some of that last year, but I was still tired.  This time I'm doing a lot more freezing.  If the frozen crap turns out to taste like frozen crap..well, what can I say..I tried!  LOL

Shirley

Rosemary - On HotAir.com they called it the "Dodd proposal". The money for the schools was for teaching the students how to protest and make a fuss.

Nicki - what happened to the Cubs? I agree, we need some good recipes.

Shirley - don't go over there <----------- It is supposed to be the Positive Obama thread but it is anything but positive. They have to tear down others to make their candidate look good. Pelosi plans to call Congress back after the election but before the new president is inaugurated. They would have to give a hefty stimulus to make a difference and then it would only be temporary. I think now most people would use it to pay bills and not on new spending so it would not make much of a difference. The stock market will probably fall further as investors get out before a possible Obama presidency as he says he will increase the capital gains tax.

Hearing a lot about voter fraud. My question is - why can a third world country like Bangladesh with a population of approximately 150 million (about half of the US), 63% between the ages of 15-63 years provide each eligible voter with a picture voter ID card and we cannot? Here in Wisconsin people have been trying for years to require a picture ID to vote. It has been blocked - why?- it is racist!  You need a picture ID to buy cigarettes, liquor, cold medicine and to board a plane - that is not racist - but to ask for a picture ID to vote is. It makes no sense. I am all for everyone who is eligible casting their vote - ONCE! In Las Vegas they had people who registered with the names of the Dallas Cowboys -geez! Tony Romo and Terrell Owens - like no one will recognize those names LOL! I think it was the entire offensive line.

Shirley - interesting videos.

I found this to be VERY disturbing.  Let's see.  We called President Nixon, Richard Milhous Nixon, President Kennedy, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, and I'm sure there are other presidents that we said their middle names...I'm too tired to think tonight.  Oh, how could I forget!?  George Walker Bush.  So, this article is disturbing.

Hands up! You're under arrest for saying 'Hussein Obama!'

Posted By Bobby Eberle On October 9, 2008 at 5:57 am

We have seen many changes in this great nation which have been brought about by left wing activists. As kids, we used to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Now, it's being attacked in the courts. We used to say a prayer in the morning before school or at football games. Socialists in America have deemed that "offensive" and the practice has all but disappeared. Christmas displays honoring the birth of Christ trigger convulsions by the Left, who say that we shouldn't make people feel "uncomfortable" with our manger scenes.

Now, we can't even say what we want to say in public because not only will the thought police be on patrol, but, using a recent event in Florida as an example, saying "Hussein Obama" in public might just get you a visit from the FBI. Just ask Florida's Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott who is under fire -- and investigation -- for referring to Obama at a campaign rally by his -- gasp -- full name. What is going on with America?

At a rally in Estero, Florida on Monday for Gov. Sarah Palin, one of the pre-rally speakers was Sheriff Scott. Now, anyone who has been to a political rally knows that the job of the warm-up speakers is to do exactly as the name implies: warm-up the audience. Whether the audience is cheering wildly or booing loudly, the pre-rally speakers are there to wake them up and get them going. So... according to ABC News, Sheriff Scott stepped to the podium and said, "On November 4, let's leave Barack Hussein Obama wondering what happened."

Oh, the shock of it all! Speaking someone's full legal name in public! When asked about the "incident," Sheriff Scott responded by saying:

"I absolutely, unequivocally don't regret saying it," Scott told the News-Press on Monday. "In order to be a speaker at this event, I had to give my full name - Michael Joseph Scott - to the Secret Service, even though I'm the sheriff of Lee County. So why would I apologize? Is there some kind of double standard here where I have to give my full name, but I can't use his?"

"Unless he changed his name, my position hasn't changed," said Scott of Obama. "It seems very clear to me that people have one of three stances on this thing: There are those who dislike it, there are those who like it, and there are those who think it's a whole big deal about nothing, which is where I stand."

As noted in the Cape Coral Daily Breeze, the Palin campaign responded by issuing the following statement:

"We do not condone this inappropriate rhetoric which distracts from the real questions of judgment, character and experience that voters will base their decisions on this November."

Fair enough. If Palin or anyone else wants to say the usage of Barack Hussein Obama is inappropriate, he or she has a right to do so. But Sheriff Scott also has a right to say what he wants to say without fear of reprisal by the government. However, according to a local Florida NBC affiliate, Sheriff Scott's remark has now earned him an investigation by the federal government.

The NBC station reports that officials with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel have started an investigation of the Sheriff under the question of "did he use his position as sheriff to influence an election? If so, he could be in violation of a federal election law called the Hatch Act." The basis the Feds are using is whether Scott was campaigning while on duty and in uniform.

Sheriff Scott responded to the NBC story with the following statement:

"I am on duty 24/7 and 365 whether in or out of uniform. Like every other elected official, I am aware of from President to Governor to State Representatives, etc. We engage in political activities whether for ourselves as candidates or for others. As of this writing, I am unaware of having done anything to generate all this attention other than using the senator's full name."

The question is this... If Sheriff Scott had not said "Barack Hussein Obama," do you really think he would now be under investigation? If you answered "no," then that should send a shiver down your spine, because it means that the government is imposing pressure and creating a public example of Scott for simply saying someone's name.

Whether the investigation leads to charges or legal action is not the point. The point is that government intimidation is being brought to bear for someone exercising his first amendment right to free speech. This is wrong, regardless of whether you think his usage of Barack Hussein Obama was appropriate or not. This is still America, isn't it?

I'm glad that Pansy is here, and not gone, and hope she comes back as Pansy again.

I wrote to her yesterday and apologized for posting my response publicly.  It should have been in a PM and It was totally insensitive of me to post it for all the world to see.   I did think her post stupid, but then my response was equally, if not more, stupid.  Again, Pansy, do come back and start posting again.

Odalys--sorry to you too.  But I do want to reinterate that Barack Obama is neither a socialist or a communist.  Just a politician and a pretty good one at that!

Have a good weekend all; I'm off to the races. 

Rosemary--we've had long talks on these threads and I don't think you caught my dread disease, social liberalism.  Believe me if talks could infect, I'd walk the streets like the Ancient Mariner, talking to everyone!  And Tony Rezko is the quintessential Capitalist!

Pansy...whomever wrote "fear and ignorance rule for some in your camp" is the one who should feel asinine. It can be easily said the "fear and ignorance ruling" is a personal opinion and we all know (or should know) about opinions, they are akin to assumptions!