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Pansy_Aston wrote:
I wish Shirley were running this campaign!!
Thanks for the vote of confidence HOWEVER, no you don't. I kick some ARSE!
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I just don't understand why this tax increase for 250,000 the general public just dosn't understand and let's not forget that just a few months ago it was a tax increase for 110,000..........why don't people understand that when an individual starts a small business and let's just say that there is a net income of 400,000 and employs 4 people plus themselves.....after that person meets the basic company bills say like rent, phones, Internet service, payroll, insurance (not necessarily health but liability to protect the company like e & o insurance)...........if you raise his/her corporate taxes who is going to pay? Why do the Democrats think that the owner of the company is going to pay out of his/her profit?.........I tell you who is going to pay is the employee that has lest seniority and has been on the job the shortest amount of time and they are going to get a pink slip and the remaining employees will absorb that employee's responsiblities that was fired. Why would you punish small business for being successful..........if those corporate taxes are lower........(we have the second highest corporate taxes in the world) then the owner could hire more people and produce more and make more money and in the long run put more money back into the economy..........what in the world is so hard about that?.........I just don't understand why people think that for one minute that if anyone earning over 250,000 is going to just pay out of their own pocket..........they will cut jobs to cover those taxes........that is the way business works.......what is the incentive to earn more to pay more to the gov't........because it is the paitoric thing to do?........bull crap..........that simply is not what this country is about........we should be rewarded for doing well not punished..........Shokk
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Shirley Go and enjoy your self! We will still be here when you get back! Unfortunately. But I finally got my husband to take some time off so we can get away for a long weekend in Sedona. At least I have that to look forward to.
Shirley, you are so right about the fact that some of us can't stand Obama and others despise Palin. It is not about race or sexism. It is about elitism. For some people Obama is one of them. For liberals he walks and talks like them. For blacks, he looks like them. The same is true for Palin supporters. She walks and talks like us. When others hear her speak they cringe because she does not speak like them. That is why we like her. She speaks like we do. I keep going back to what I heard and read at the Lincoln Library in Springfield. Lincoln was ridiculed and made into a caricature when he went to Washington. He was not one of them and they hated the fact that this upstart was now in charge. But look what he accomplished. He saw a wrong and fought to correct it. It was the same hatred that Bush had to deal with from day one. He saw wrongs and tried to correct it, but gets lambasted. By contrast Kennedy was applauded from day one, even though his best seller was not really written by him, and he was no stellar student. He was one of them, so he was accepted. As Palin takes center stage, which she will do even if McCain loses, she will continue to be vilified by the main street media and the hollywood types who cannot identify with her. She is the kind of change we really need. Someone who really is like the rest of us. Someone who is every bit as smart, informed, and capable, but who is looked down on by those who think they are smarter, more informed, and more capable; the quintessential elitists who have run this country for too long, and ran it into the ground! We do not need more lawyers in charge(like Obama and Biden). We need more "real" people who are willing to put their own selfish ambitions behind, to serve US. Palin and McCain have done this. The other two have not.
Does anyone find it amazing how no one notices how badly the left wants to go to Darfur to help, but they think we were stupid to help the people in Iraq? The same people, like Biden who brought it up last night, who say it is time America want us to do something about the genocide in the Balkans or Africa,complain we had no rights to do anything for the people who were and are being slaughtered by the same kind of cruel dictators in the middle east. Why are we wrong to try to liberate the women who are persecuted by extreme Isalamic fascists, but we are right to liberate African women from the murdering, raping, fascists there? I do not get it at all!!! Where is the difference? Yeah, Sadam was not hurting us, but he was hurting his own people. Hitler was not hurting us, but he was murdering millions. It is maddening that it is always up to America to do the heavy lifting while the rest of the world sits by and watches. They blame us if we get involved and blame us when we don't. We can't win. The only people who appreciate us are those that are liberated. Then they start to resent the fact that we had to come to their rescue when they could not do it themselves. The French are still embarassed that their "treaty" with Hitler was a farce. Look at what America leaves in the wake of war. We go back and rebuild nations and make them better. We sacrifice our sons and daughters, and our treasury and get no respect. Germany is better today because of US. Japan is better today because of US. And the Middle East will be better someday because of US. I am sick and tired of the rest of the world not respecting US! If it wasn't for US, the world would be a much sadder place. I am tired of the liberals who keep blaming US for what is going on in the world. And Obama loves to do this. He can hope all he wants to. But it is just a slogan to him. We need a president who understands that if it wasn't for US, there is no hope.
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Marilyn,
Your right we should not be talking politics. But I'll say this, what trickles down to every person in America, is taxes. When they raise taxes on businesses, people lose jobs, and all our goods and services cost more. It's a fact. That can't be changed because we want to believe something different. With the higher cost of gas, all our food, clothing, you name it costing more...we're dead meat. Very simple. Those who have money, it won't matter one bit, those who are teetering on bankruptcy, they'll be able to tell you all about it. Higher business taxes trickles down to everyone. It knows no boundries. We pay.
I remember the Carter years very well. I had to give up my job because no one was buying homes, interest rates were too high. It took a long while for Reagan to undo it, I know I was there trying to make a living. I got into auctioning off all the hundreds of foreclosed homes, and business properties and only then was I able to make a nice buck. And here we are again but this time what makes it different, we have someone seeking office who wants to make it worse, without any checks and balances of Republicans to head them off at the pass. I do understand this very well because I lived through it. I just don't want others to have these same stories to tell their friends.
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After All, He Is the World’s Candidate
Abe Greenwald - 10.03.2008 - 11:24 AMIn the Herald Tribune, Rami G. Khouri writes:
I was not surprised, during a visit to Egypt for a few days, to read the results of the latest BBC World Service global poll showing that in 22 out of 23 countries surveyed most people feel the U.S.-led “global war on terror” has not weakened Al Qaeda. On average, the poll showed, only 22 percent of respondents feel that Al Qaeda has been weakened, while three in five believe that the war on terror has had no effect (29 percent) or made Al Qaeda stronger (30 percent).
I’m not surprised either, considering the candidate in the lead for President of the United States feels the same way. Debating John McCain last week, Barack Obama dropped this whopper on 53 million American viewers and another 60 million viewers and listeners worldwide: “Al-Qaeda is resurgent, stronger now than any time since 2001.” When the loudest, most revered American voice on the planet insists that U.S. victory is U.S. defeat what is the rest of the world supposed to think? And what are we supposed to think? Is this what Obama means by restoring America’s standing in the world?
When Obama’s not denying American victory, he’s apologizing for America’s attempts at it, even when the culprit is someone else. Indeed, when Russia invaded Georgia in August, Obama saw the perfect opportunity to beat up a little more on the U.S.. He said, “We’ve got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies. They can’t charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point.”
That’s exactly right: we should lead by example. We can start by being honest about what the U.S. has achieved in the War on Terror. In countries such as Iraq and Saudi Arabia, al Qaeda leadership has been killed, captured, or marginalized by the thousands. Operationally, fighters are scattered and strapped for money. And public sympathy for al Qaeda has plummeted throughout most of the Muslim world (although it is on the rise in Northern Africa, Egypt, Pakistan, and several parts of Europe.)
A U.S. that doesn’t deny its successes won’t necessarily inspire the rest of the world to join in the celebration. But it will halt the course of the self-fulfilling prophecy of America’s decline. There’s more than philosophical folly in the question: is a victory still a victory if everyone calls it a defeat?
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I do not know who the writer of that article, Khouri is,but by the sound of his name, he obviously has some middle east roots. Why is it that they get it and American's don't. All this free speech, against our own country, refusing to credit our successes, as Obama does, THAT IS THE PROBLEM. He is not the solution. He is the problem. His presidency will lead to our demise. That will definitely make the rest of the world like us. That is what they want-a weakened America. THAT is why they all want him to win.. It is in THEIR best interest. Not ours!.Heaven help us all.
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From National Review Online
JOE BIDEN
The Biden Error/Lie/Hallucination List (UPDATED to 22)
Below, you’ll find a list of 14 “lies” Biden told last night, distributed by the McCain campaign. I’d just note two observations: first, when you tell stories of things that didn’t happen with the frequency of Joe Biden, coupled with his fervent belief of these untrue and inaccurate statements, I don’t think “lie” is the appropriate term. “Hallucinations” seems more accurate, I think. Second, they missed a bunch, so Biden’s list of li- er, hallucinations is well beyond 14.
THE CONSTITUTION: Biden: "Vice President Cheney's been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history. He has — he has — the idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the executive — he works in the executive branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that."
As noted by the McCain Camp, Article I of the Constitution does not, in fact, define the role of the Vice President of the United States. It defines the role of the legislative branch, otherwise known as the branch in which Joe Biden has served for the last 36 years.
[A reader writes in noting that Article I does mention the veep at one point — "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided." However, by describing the veep's role in the legislature, it doesn't really help Biden's claim that it "defines the role, that's the executive, he works in the executive branch."]
IRAQ-AFGHANISTAN SPENDING: Biden said that the U.S. spends more in Iraq in one month than it has in Afghanistan in six or seven years.
That figure is off by 2000 percent.
‘KICKED HEZBOLLAH OUT OF LEBANON’: Biden: When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said, and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.”
Reuters thinks he meant to refer to Syria, but I still don't think it would be accurate to say the U.S. kicked Syria out of Lebanon. The Lebanese kicked Syria out of Lebanon.
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT: Biden's statement that McCain voted against the Violence Against Women Act is accurate. But as Robert Byers notes, the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Morrison, the Court ruled that much of Biden's law was an unconstitutional power grab by Congress of rights reserved to the states. Nobody voted against the WAWA because they support violence against women; they objected over constiutional concerns that a Supreme Court majority validated.
The McCain camp's list fourteen lies/hallucinations can be found here.
UPDATE: As I suspected, there are others.
RESTAURANT: "Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie's Restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time and you ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration has made them better off in the last eight years."
According to this Delaware site, Katie's Restaurant is no longer in business; locals remember it on Union Street 25 to 30 years ago.
ARMS CONTROL TREATY: Biden: "Number two, with regard to arms control and weapons, nuclear weapons require a nuclear arms control regime. John McCain voted against a Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty that every Republican has supported."
I have no idea where Biden gets this "every Republican has supported" claim, as 49 other Republican senators voted 'no' with McCain.
When the roll was finally called on October 13, the resolution to ratify the CTBT (including the six safeguards that Daschle had submitted as an amendment) was defeated by a 51-48 vote with one abstention. (See the voting record.) Forty-four Democrats voted for ratification as did four Republicans: John Chafee (R-RI), James Jeffords (R-VT), Gordon Smith (R-OR) and Arlen Specter (R-PA). Fifty Republican senators and one independent (Robert Smith of New Hampshire) voted against ratification, and Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) voted "present." The treaty fell 19 votes short of achieving the necessary two-thirds majority necessary for ratification.
WEST BANK ELECTIONS: Biden: President Bush insisted on elections in the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, 'Big mistake. Hamas will win. You'll legitimize them.'"
The Washington Post's Glenn Kessler notes that "Obama had been a senator for only a few days when the election took place, but if he made such statements, they did not appear in news reports or transcripts that are contained in the Nexis or Factiva databases."
PAKISTANI WEAPONS: "Pakistan already has nuclear weapons. Pakistan already has deployed nuclear weapons. Pakistan's weapons can already hit Israel and the Mediterranean."
I won't quite chalk this up as a lie/hallucination, but Biden is on shaky ground here. (See below.) The distance between Israel and Pakistan is 2,085 miles, or 3355 kilometers. The longest-range existing strategic missile in the Pakistani arsenal has a range of 3000 kilometers, but it might have longer range with a lighter payload. (But how much can you lighten a nuclear payload?) They are working on developing longer-range missiles; maybe Biden knows of some development that public sources do not yet know about. Theoretically, the Pakistanis could put the weapon on a boat and then sail it to the target, but by that standard, any site on a coast in the world is within their range.
ANOTHER UPDATE: This site indicates that the top range of Pakistani missile that can carry a nuclear warhead is 1000 miles. By being off by 1,000 or so, I'm now upgrading this to full lie/error/hallucination status. -
Here are the 14 originals--
Joe Biden's 14 Lies
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.
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Hi all:
Just another kudos to Sarah for last night's debate!!! Also, as someone above mentioned - I don't really care if Europe likes our choice of President or not . . . too bad!!
I feel very much in the minority here in Michigan - as you know the McCain campaiagn has pulled it's ads and any future visitation (at least for the time being) here in Michigan. Smart move - concentrate where you can do the most good, right??
Pat
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I was wondering how Frank Luntz's group and CNN's focus group could be so different since they were supposed to be undecided..........
Talk about being in the tank.........
CNN Misrepresents Its Own Focus Group!
John Podhoretz -Megan McArdle exposes, hilariously, a CNN blunder last night about which I was entirely ingenuous. It came when Soledad O’Brien interviewed the focus group convened by CNN in Ohio of 32 undecided voters. I took her at her word, and so did several million others, I imagine:
Soledad O’Brien polls the 32 “persuadables” by asking them to indicate, by a show of hands, who they thought won. She calls the vote for Biden “overwhelming”. The magic of Tivo allows us to freeze frame and count: 11 or 12 for Palin, 12 or 13 for Biden (some people are hard to see).
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Pat, glad to hear you chime in. Don't count out Mich. yet. Did you hear Sarah this morning? She is saying "Send me to Michigan. Let Todd and I talk to the people. WE know what they are going through." Let's hope McCain takes her advice.
I heard a young college kid call into Rush. He watched the debate at UW Madison. One of the most liberal campuses (and perennial, #1 party school). He was saying how many people left early. Why? Because they actually could relate to what Sarah was saying, and they were upset. They actually liked her and did not want to admit it. This kid, one of a few republicans on campus said that support for Obama is really waning as people got past all the Hope and Change talk and are looking at the facts.. I think there are a lot of young voters that Obama is counting who are losing interest and will not bother to vote in the end. If this is what is happening in Madison, he is probably happening everywhere. This is why Obama's team is pushing to get those voters to register and then fill out absentee ballots in Ohio. This is typical Chicago politics. Wake up folks!
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Hi Pat,
Are you the lonely Republican in Michigan? You can always come to Texas, we're all over the place here. They need to concentrate their efforts in PA, or Susie might have to get on their case. When I think of it, I don't really see many ads here either but we're red. I do see an ad from some tax group that is explaining why Obama's taxes aren't good for America. I hope Michigan at least gets to see that one. It just might give some a pause.
I'm listening the Dems take all the credit for the passage of the bill. There was Barney Franks just smiling away. They think we don't pay attention to why we're in this mess in the first place. They need to adjust their hearing aids so when a person who comes to a hearing about Fannie and Freddie, they'll hear them the next time.
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Susie, thanks for listing all the lies. I was really ticked watching the debate that Sarah let Biden keep tossing them out there. I kept thinking, even I know that is lie, why doesn't she clarify it. The vote to fund the troops is one that really makes me furious. We all know the dems purposely put a time line in the bill so that the republicans would vote in down and the president would veto it. Why does the McCain campaign continue to let them get away with this stuff? If they lose, it will be their own fault.
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Hi Pat --Nice to have you here. Maybe they should get Romney out on the stump in Michigan?
Linda--apparently Biden had the mother of all gaffs or an outright lie last night and no one caught him on it---No one is even discussing it! No one is listing it so far........Very few knew enough to challange it except Middle East junkies........... It will never be picked up in the media but it was a whopper-------
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Linda,
Biden was throwing too many lies at her. We know there is always a reason why McCain doesn't vote for something, but it was too much to fight. He was rattling off a litany of falsehoods. It's up to McCain to fix it next week. If he doesn't... shame on him. The onus of this election is now on his shoulders. When all the fact checkers get through with checking on that litany of lies, Biden will have embarrassed himself, and people will be voting for bold face, stare you in the eye..liar. Or will they?
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Now, I like Joe Biden, but I am disturbed that he keeps saying that his wife and child were killed by a drunk driver, when it was established that alcohol had played no role in the accident. Why is he not called on this by the press?
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Susie - correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it CNN that had the code pink people in their focus group after the Republican convention?
Rosemary - my dd is teaching in Texas - social studies - last Friday she had her 8th graders watch Obama's acceptance speech and answer some questions on it. She was only grading on completeness, not content. She got a phone call from a parent on Monday - concerned that she was teaching socialism! She then explained that this Friday they were going to watch McCain's acceptance speech and answer the same questions. She really just wanted to tell him - it's cool we're on the same side - but she didn't.
Linda - wasn't the word the media used to describe Sarah at the convention "snarky" - I think last night she was trying not to appear "snarky". I would have found it hard not to appear aggitated when he kept up with the lies.
I hope that is true about the college kids. I am hoping that they have seen some of the videos about the financial mess. The one I posted had a million hits - kids are really into YouTube. My daughter posted the video on her Facebook page - she has quite a few friends who go to UW-Madison (we are from Wisconsin).
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Suz--I don't know which station the Code Pink appeared on but it was a Michigan focus group they infiltrated, organized by the Detroit Free Press...... Don't know which stations ran with it.
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"Now, I like Joe Biden, but I am disturbed that he keeps saying that his wife and child were killed by a drunk driver, when it was established that alcohol had played no role in the accident. Why is he not called on this by the press?"
I don't think the press could ever call him out over this. The family can't because their father passed on, but I've read they are furious that he keeps lying about what really happened that day and he can get away with it.
Suz,
That's a funny story. It goes to show you how on the alert we all are for Obama sightings in our school rooms.
I heard another story on the radio. This woman calls up the station to say that her 2 year old was passing the TV and Obama was on, and the child said: "Obama". The lady was floored. She showed the child a picture of McCain and asked who's this? He didn't know. She was so upset that she called all her family to ask them if they told the child who Obama was. Her family said, absolutely not! She figures it had to be coming from the day care center. Her next stop was going to be at the day care center. She was pretty upset.
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Linda and Rosemary:
Hi there gals. Yep I was kind of feeling like the Lone Ranger but I am so happy to hear that Sarah and her hubby would love to come here to Michigan and wake up the people!!! I sure do hope McCain agrees with her b/c we have really been inundated with the Dems lately - Obama and Biden with their wives and now Michelle Obama is coming again (on her own) some time next week as well.
I'll keep an eye out for that ad on Obamah's tax plan - that's an especially sore point here in Michigan (as I'm sure everywhere) with our own Dem govenor - Jennifer Granholm (ugh) being the queen of taxing and driving small businesses out of the state. Lord knows we can't use that!!
Take care and keep the faith.
Pat
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Pat,
Wouldn't it be something if Sarah shows up and she gets large crowds. Yep, I still do have faith that this will all turn in our favor.
Here's a video of O'Reilly raking Frank over the coals. Listen closely to what Frank says in the beginning of the video, and his last words after the argument was to try to blame Bush. It's worth watching:
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Finally!-- Now that the bailout is done maybe McCain will start speaking the truth.......
They need to run this over and over on TV instead of the net.
Mind you this is an RNC ad---I'm wondering if McCain will attack the accountability issue..............
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Michael Medved was listing all of Biden's lies today. Here is what he says is the biggest whopper. Biden, talking about money for the Iraq was using his doublespeak by comparing the cost of the "war" in Iraq to the costs of "rebuilding" in Afghanistan. I guess it goes back to what the defintion of Is Is.
BLOWHARD BIDEN: WHAT A SCHMUCK!
Oct 3rd 2008 Yes, Sarah Palin delivered a self-assured, charismatic performance in the Vice Presidential debate, erasing the most toxic doubts about her abilities and re-energizing the Republican campaign.
Joe Biden, meanwhile, produced a blizzard of misstatements, distortions and outright lies.
The most irritating and most seriously misleading involved the relative cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Three times, with great earnestness and passion, he cited a mysterious statistic claiming that we spend more every three weeks in Iraq than we have invested in the Afghan War for its duration.
Actually, statistics from The Congressional Research Service (posted on the website of the Center for Arms Control and Nuclear Non-Proliferation) show that our biggest Iraq expenditure came in Fiscal Year 2008 and reached $158 billion - or $3 billion per week. This means that Biden's "three weeks in Iraq" would cost $9 billion at most.
And what about our commitment to Afghanistan? Has it really been $9 billion over seven years, as Biden suggested? The truth is we've spent $177.5 total in Afghanistan (compared to $661.1 billion in Iraq). This means that Biden either over-stated the cost of our war in Iraq TWENTY TIMES, or else understated the cost of our war in Afghanistan by a factor of twenty. Either way, the jerk is wrong by a distance equal to the width of the State of Delaware, and he delivered an Alaska-sized blooper three times in one evening.
As soon as I heard him make the comparison (watching the debate in a room with several hundred revelers who had come to celebrate my birthday) I blurted out, "He's full of it! That's an obvious lie."
Sarah Palin was right, however, not to call him on it - and to lose the audience in a duel over statistics. But moderator Gwen Ifill (who otherwise did a fair and capable job, it seems to me) should have at least asked Biden for the source of his startling claim.
In any event, he now owes an apology to Governor Palin and to the American people. If he gets away with a distortion of this magnitude, it will provide powerful indication of the ongoing abdication of responsibility and fairness by mainstream media.Pat - I feel you pain, living in a tax and tax more state. Yesterday the city of Chicago announced that they will have to raise the price of taxis and buses again (they just did this 3 months ago). Their excuse is that revenues are down 30% because of the economy. The truth is revenues are down because no one wants to pay the 12% cook county sales tax so they are going to the suburbs to shop. And just like Michigan, the tax on business sent everyone running out of Illinois. Ten years ago, there were a lot of movies being made in Chicago. This brought a lot of additional work for all the different trades. Then they raised the taxes on business and even hollywood (those hypocrites) left town for cheaper venues. They even filmed "Chicago" in Toronto. That did not sit very well with Chicagoans. So they now decided to give special "incentives" to bring the movies back. So now we are paying them to block off our streets to do their car chases.
THis is the stupideconmics of the democrats. McCain needs to hammer this home.
Susie, did you see someone started a thread blasting McCain's health care plan. How about some of your great fact checking <-----------------------------------.
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Fellow Repubs...my yard signs (pictures posted in a previous thread) are getting a lot of attention! Twenty three people rang my door bell today to ask where they could get them! People are starting to get it! Oh and one gal said "I have never been into politics before but we CANNOT let Obama be elected"! OMG! And I had one last bumper sticker with the McCain/Palin picture on it so I gave it to her! I cannot wait to see the picture yard signs popping up all over town!
One elderly man did not know how to use the internet to order so my daughter gave him one of the yard signs! And all he talked about was last nights debate!
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Paulette, I am glad to hear that Texas gets it. I was driving though my town, which is traditionally republican. I saw 2 houses with signs for our Republican rep, along with Obama signs. Are these people nuts!
Check out the Diane Sawyers interviews tonight with the Obamas and McCains. On the promo, she asks Cindy McCain "what was it like growing up rich". I about hit the roof! They did not show her response, but Johnny boy had better go to bat for his wife and rattle off all that she has done and given to charity. Can't wait to compare the questions between the two. How many powder puffs will she toss to MO. It is disgusting!
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Linda...OK, here is what I think she will ask MO. In addition to other stuff she will ask:
What was it like growing up blue collar in Chigao's South side?
What was it like attending an upper echelon East coast college being a minority?
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Hi, Linda, I follow this thread mostly because I love knowing that there are other people in the world who think and feel as I do on many aspects of American life, particularly the politics. Anyway, I just wanted to comment that a few post back you paid way too big of a compliment to Oprah saying the Sarah Palin is our Oprah, JMHO.
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I'm telling you, if your ever in a funk and want some support...just turn on the radio. I'm getting addicted to it. People are calling in to these shows from all over the nation just to tell all the Biden lies they heard last night. One guy asked how can they say he knows the world around him when he wasn't right about anything he said? And he's going to be the co-president.
In a way I am glad Palin didn't get into it with him because it would have taken all her time just to refute him. Anyway, I think McCain needs to do that next week. HE needs to set the record straight, and I like the way Palin did it. I'd like to talk about the things I want to talk about.
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Hey ladies - I thought you might like this pic
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Ody- Love the pic!!! I want the poster!
Gina- Thanks for the laugh! I get your point!
Can't wait to see the Sawyer inquisition. And to think I use to like her!
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