Starting Chemo May 2008
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Hi Everyone,
Well I got a prescription filled for my cold- I think it is progressing into a sinus infection!
Rads for today finished- went at 7:30 AM to accomodate a business meeting all afternoon- hopefully calling in from home so I can attend in my shorts and T-shirt.Im getting to work at home all morning doing my work and meetings via phone so that is nice.
Kristy
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Just spent an hour reading and writing, but missed the submit so it is all gone. The good news is that it spares you all reading some major ramblings. I will try again later. THinking of you all and will catch up later.
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GO Cris!!!!!!!! I'm waving my arms at you from the other side. Let me know if you want me to dive in and pull you thru tomorrow!!
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Took a couple days off and had lots to read. Kerry, so glad to hear its not stage IV. Yeah Christine for tomorrow, thinking of you. No rads yesterday. The darn machine was down. Now I finish 10/31, great, maybe I'll dress up as the boobless horseman. Today I had my herceptin and blood work appoitnment. I met with the onc and had a bit of discerning news.... I was cleared for my herceptin but they need to monitor me closely. Looks like my reading dropped quite a bit. He explained I was still a candidiate but if it drops again, I'll have to cancel the herceptin. They scheduled anouther muga scan after one more herceptin to re-evaluate. Hard to belief I would be so disappointed at the possibility of ending treatment early, but I need all the help I can get. After that appointment I husteled over to rads and saw the doctor there. Getting really tired of the daily routine and I just started. The temperature dropped here and fall is in the air. Trees are starting to change color. Fall is here. Have a great day ladies.
P.S. Showed my office friends my sprouts today....finally a five o'clock shadow!
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Mary,
I am due to finish Oct 31 also- wonder what costume I could wear? A one eyed potato
Kristy
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Two things,
Got hold of my wonderful surgical nurse, who apologized, filled me in on what I needed and then said she would put the post op bag and instructions at her desk for my dh to grab on Friday while I was under. Plus, they agreed to let me stay til Monday sine this weekend is softball tourney and no one will be home to help. Bff has a terrible intestinal bug that I don;t want and i don;t think my 6 yo , cute as he is, will be much of a help reaching things for me. So, I promise to bring my laptop and write to you all from the hospital....lol
BTW, Sam askd me who gets my boobies after the dr cuts them off, he thinks we donate them to mommies who can't nurse, what a cutie!
As far as 10/31, I have a great costume, one light bulb, my son;s graduation gown and I am UNCLE FESTER!!!!!!!!!!!
any joiners??????randie
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Randie~ this is one thing I wish they hadn't done when I had mine. They asked before I went into surgery if I wanted pain balls. I said yes..... They are literally a ball that hangs from your neck and constantly drips pain meds into you... kinda like a picc line. They are SUPPOSED to be turned on when you get out of surgery... mine however were not. They forgot to turn them on. When they did turn them on, to be honest I felt no difference. I had 2 of them going and they weighed about 5-10 pounds total and hurt my neck. So if you remember ask about them before you go under and see if you can take a look at one to see if thats what you want to use. I put my poor mom thru pulling them out after I got home.
Good luck sweetie, we will all be pulling for you!
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I am picturing a 2nd collage with creative Halloween costumes. Hmmmmmm, could that be?
Roxi - I am not familiar with herceptin, not a treatment I am getting. Was it your blood counts that dropped so low? Curious, my first blood test after chemo (on month) had the lowest white counts in 5 months. It could become an issue with rads. Count was 2.8, need above 2.0 to take rads.
Otter - yes LOL and that may have to be a new gesture / saying - "fit this"! Lovin it!
See you on the other side Chris!!! Take lots of photos because chemo will be OVER!
Jean
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Pain balls.....a pretty picture this does not make.
Seriously though...I've never heard of these.
LOL Randie...Sam's logic just makes me think how wonderful a mom you must be that he even considers donation as an option OR how what you are doing benefits another. Get tons of rest (ok..in a hospital this is negotiable) and I'll be thinking of you.
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Hi, all--
Cris, if you don't see me as you're swimming across tomorrow, it's because I'm under the water. Actually, I'm going to be computer-less for about 36 hours. There's no internet service in the campground where we'll be in Arkansas tomorrow night. (At least, I don't think there is.) We're headed west to visit my in-laws for a couple of weeks. I'll be connected part of that time.
otter
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Cris, my swimming togs are at the ready.
RanD, all Jens talk about pain meds reminded me. I had a lot of pain and the pain meds made me super barfy. They had to super dose me with morphine on top of the percs and lots of...( oh god, chemo brain) that high end anti nausea med we all took during A/C. I barfed all over my bed more than once until they worked this out. Ondansitron- that's the name of the anti nausea med.
.. oh and then there was the time just after surgery when I fell asleep eating toast... good thing my friend was there to laugh at me.... and wake me up. BF and a local BFF thought it would be fun to take pics of me with funny things piled on me while I was passed out, thankfully they chose not to go ahead with that prank.
Night y'all. I gotta get some sleep.
xoN
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Siouxie- how was the trip??Karin? where u at?
Gracie, you strong and silent?
Mary- you mean your MUGA score dropped? How many Herceptin tx have you had?
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Randie - Okay, Antarctica it is, as the hot flashes have continued today. WTF?! Never had too many until I talked about it yesterday!! I guess that's another part of the "cumulative" effect. Sam's too cute! That sounds like something my little one might say, too. I'll be thinking of you on Friday.
Sherri - My goal is to be done by the holidays also. Since I had my simulation last Friday, I can start rads any time. I'm shooting for the end of next week.
Jen - Pain balls?! I've never heard of those, but teehee!!! The name (not your story) is making me giggle.
Eddie - Glad to see you popped in, even if you lost your post. I miss your ramblings.
Thanks to someone for reminding me about the pictures - I had almost forgotten! I can see you all waving at me, so I'ma comin'!!
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CRIS!! In true Barry Manilow showman style: "Looks like we made it!" **
Woo-hooooooooooooooooooo! I am so very happy for you. After getting swatted with virtually every bloomin' delay, side effect, infection, and medical strangeness known to womankind . . . here you are. I am so happy.
**Okay, so the words don't otherwise work at all unless maybe you substitute "chemo" for "love" but a) you get the idea and b) hey! these images are from the parts of Central Park that I walk through all the time!.
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Painballs, falling asleep eating toast, boob donations, boobless horseman and other costume ideas... it's 4:35 am and I'm smiling. Which beats sweating my head off any day.
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Rads uneventful. Though I was prescribed Tamoxifen which for some reason, I didn't see coming. And also "Ambien" because I guess the bags under my eyes aren't fooling anyone (she recommended I start on a half dose... I HATE taking drugs but I hate not sleeping even more.) I met my former student's aunt who oversees rads which was cool. And! my rads doc suggests that I have my mamms and MRI sent electronically from S Africa to be read at MSKCC which makes a lot of sense. Oh, and I was given a prescription for Biofine creme. It apparently has the same results as Aquaphor but is less greasy. I'm so pale I'm almost blue; am hoping to avoid the worst of the rads burn.
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Rock, I'm not understanding the S Africa thing..are you going intercontinental? I'm with you on the sleep deprivation: I am officially fecked. I haven't slept since last Friday..a few little 'slips' into dreamland but with rude awakenings. The nuclear meltdowns are unbelievable. The SEs are cumulative, yes? I've been sick (and relatively silent) for 5 days which is a big shock. Normally by day 5 I'm at the top of the mountain, ready to come skipping down but all day today I have been lying here with my glass-shards gut and my every-15-minutes sharts.
You know, I peed myself reading about the sharts and serious squirts, but who me??? THAT would never happen to MOI!. Well, happen it has....
What's everyone thinking about tamoxifen et al? My hub and I have been talking it through. Does anyone have the stats on increased survival if we do these therapies? I am SERIOUSLY weighing up the second-rate lifestyle V survival thing in all my sleepless hours. I don't mind losing my right breast ( or left one, depending on which report you read...) but I DO mind losing my piss-taking sense of humor. Help me out here girls, I need your collective wisdom.
RanD, it's Friday here tomorrow...is it the same there? I'm thinking of you girl. You will be great!
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Good Luck RanD- you will do fine I bet- you have great support at home and a little one to keep you smiling!
Rock, I had ambien during chemo and I only took 1/2- otherwise it made me dopey all day the day after. I used it on the days I took steroids because they kept me up all night. I also hate taking pills but the sleep was really nice!
Did they test your tamoxifen metabolism? My doc did some kind of blood test and it showed my body was a poor metabolizer of tamoxifen ----see if they can do that blood test before you start taking it just in case- from what I understand there is virtually no benefit to taking the tamoxifen if your body is a poor metabolizer and you still get all the side effects!
Cris, Welcome to the post chemo party- it is nice to finally start feeling better and NOT have to go get zapped again!
Thursday! WOuld be better if it were Friday- has been a long work week (busy, not bad) so I am ready for the weekend! Next weekend I get to go to Arkansas to see my college girl and hang out in Hot Springs!
Kristy
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Cris-thinking of you today as you finish chemo! Looking forward to your pics!
First taxotere yesterday-pretty uneventful. No Emend this time around-said I shouldn't need it as the nausea isn't as bad--yeah right. It hit around 9pm last night and DH said I was making weird noises in my fitful sleep, like I was going to be sick. Up early this morning, still nauseous. Steroids are the pits too! Just 3 more to go and I am done! I hate taking pills. Even took an extra Xanax last night hoping it would counteract the steroids (onc told me to). Still tossed and turned all night. I already see a nap in my future!
Rock--Barry Manilow fan here! I'm supposed to start tamoxifen after rads, DH isn't too sure--we were watching House the other night and they mentioned heart/respiratory failure as an adverse reaction and he looked at me as said "THAT's what they are going to give you?" Me thinks that it kind of scared him. He is very protective.
Hope that everyone has a great Thursday!
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WOOHOO Cris! Last CHEMOOOOOO! Totally awesome
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Okay, I am going to try again really fast before I get heavy into work. Ramblings a coming so skip if you aren't ready.
Roxi and Kristy and others considering Halloween: I think we should get together and have one of us dress as a breast. Then two of us who are still baldies (okay, that means nearly all of us) could put a leash on the person dressed as a breast and go as two men walking abreast. Oh my, this reminds me, Kerry, that the sense of humor does return.
We have all had times when we feel funnier than others, but once the sting and sorrow and pain of the idea of just taking care of yourself 24/7 for the next chemo zap goes away, I am finding my sense of humor returning. It all goes back to figuring out the new normal, Kerry, and I DO think we ought to weigh out drugs vs. not drugs vs surgeries etc., etc., but know that as human beings, we are so fecking (isn't that the way you spell it?) resilliant that we find ourselves again and go on.
Cris, WOO HOO again. We are waiting or diving in to help. We want to hear how it went and see that pole dance if you're doing one.
RanD, your son is adorable. As far as surgery and pain go, I have a very different read on it. I had a different experience at my mastectomy. They gave me some kind of pain medication in my IV bag and I was there over night, but went home early the next morning. I only had one breast removed (wish it was both at this point) but I never had to take anything more than tylenol or ibuprofen. I used ice a lot, a lot those first several days. Also, this is counterintuitive but the best advice my surgeon gave me was to get those arms (in my case, one arm) up above my head ASAP after surgery. Your body will want to "protect" your new "injury" but it is imperative to get that range of motion going as soon as you can -- even if it means hurting a bit. My surgeon sent her nurse the day after and had me stand up against the wall and creep my arm up above my head as far as I could go -- even though it hurt. My surgeon said it was better to hurt a little than to continue to "protect" as those first few days are key in terms of range of motion. In your case, it will be different as you are losing more nodes, but please, please ask your surgeon or the nurse about how to get yourself into movement as soon as possible. As far as pain meds, you know your tolerance and don't be a hero. Take what you need, but know that not everyone needs that and that the ice really helped me more than the meds.
Roc, I sent you a song on your Facebook for good times and for bad. I am so sorry you've been feeling down, but I am behind so I am hoping you are feeling better now. As far as the sleeping meds go, do what you need to do. We are all in a place of what I think they call "periodic depression." Though some of us are finishing chemo (only three more for some and YES, steroid suck, suck suck!) or going through rads or dealing with herceptin infusions, or even just dealing with waiting for those NOSEHAIRS and eyebrows and stuff, we are dancing in limbo...we had a battle plan...we got through and now we are on to next steps. It is NORMAL to feel down as Karin did or Roc or any of us, but we will bove through this stage as well then come out the other end stronger, wiser and maybe ready to appreciate the world even more than we did before.
Kristy and Otter -- love, love,love finally seeing what you both look like. You are lovely women.
Karin, hope your fever is long gone.
Okay, on to manky. In our family, our younger son called his thumb (which he loved to suck), his manky. If he lost a dessert privilege, he inevitably would come back with a line like this -- "I don't care if I don't get dessert, Mommy, because I've got my manky and it tastes like vanilla so I don't NEED dessert." So, I hear a different meaning for manky and I'm not sure I can buy in on that one yet.
That's it for now. Managing my mom, my boys, my still-angry husband and the high holidays are doing me in...thank goodness for work. Ciao lovely women.
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Alright Eddie,
You are going to get me in trouble at work- I laughed so hard at the Halloween idea and finally had to text it to my 16 year old daughter who is the ONLY one at home who laughs at all my ramblings from online. She even laughs with me at all the pink stuff out there now- dh just doesnt get the humor part of this ordeal! I was making fun of some pink stuff last night and my 12 year old son said- But Mom you look pretty in pink! Glad I have that daughter hanging around so I can express my sometimes wierd humor!
Kristy
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Thanks Eddie, that was like getting one of those free neck-rubs when you are out shopping..what a treat!
I actually slept last night and feel a bit stunned today..I'm LOVING that, compared to the other feeling. My gut is still very taxo-teary and sharty but my poor chemo-cat (Christina the Astonishing) has got that full-on spring shedding fur-ball problem going on and is waiting not very patiently for the Cat-Lax to start up some sharts. Sigh..what a household we are here.
I'm also interested in the 'angry husband' thing. I can't fault Drew through this..I am stunned by him. But there is that bit of' active volcano' about him. We have talked a lot about IT the last two nights and how we are crawling to the finishing post. I am just gutted for you you girls who have to go for 40 million rads and all the other shite still. Will it ever fecking end....?
Christine, despite my International -Standard whining, post chemo is the ONLY world worth being in! WELCOME!!!!
RanD..you will be right in my headspace over the next week. Get those arms/shoulders moving asap ..you've got a boy..that's going to mean climbing stuff, lugging bikes, casting flies, catching footballs, trying to restrain BIG dogs etc. No delicate cross-stitching and blusher-application in YOUR house! You are going to need those arms! XXX
Girls, I put a World Sunlight Map on my desktop so I have a better understanding of world times etc. I also put on there one of those notepad things, but I can't remember why exactly..
XXX
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RanD good luck tomorrow with your surgery you will do fine, for me the mastectomy was the easy part, mind you i only had one side done. Recovery was quick, only had to have the one percocet in the recovery room and was only needing xstr. tylenol after that. The drains were not painful just annoying at times. In our area we have health nurses that come to your home and change dressings and just give support thru your healing in case of questions, and help with the drains. I don't know if that is available to you or not. Make sure to start your exercises as soon as you are able. 2 weeks after i started going to physio to help gaining the mobility back. When you get home you might find it easier sleeping in a recliner or something similiar, i know i took up residence in the living room for 2 weeks, wasn't that bad. Take advantage of being waited on and milk it as long as you can !!!
Cris congrats on being done chemo !
My rad appts. are winding down, I just had #14 today and only 2 more reg zaps to go. I was supposed to have a boost yesterday but there was a glich. I was on the table in position waiting and they couldn't find an important template they needed, so got cancelled . Had to go in today to get an extra one made today so should have the boost tomorrow then 1 on tues & Wed then i am finito !! Have been tolerating it pretty good physically just more tired and just starting to get a little pink. It's just every time i go in i think i should be able to relax seeing as i have so many under my belt now but just laying there your body goes into protection mode and tenses up and makes it that much harder to lie still !!
So if all goes well i will drive home on Thursday, can't wait! It hasn't been bad hubby has come up on the weekends and the weather has been great so we have been able to go out and check the town out. Went on a winery tour last weekend that was fun.
Hugs to those still doing chemo or hormonal stuff, and those who are heading into, or are already in the land of radiation and anyone with surgery ahead !
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Well..... 1 down 16 to go. I made it thru the first herceptin today. We were told before this it would be only 1/2 hr long and we'd be out the door...... wrong! I guess if I am there every 3 weeks it is a 90 minute ordeal. At least it isn't 3-4 hours long like the taxol was. I napped thru part of it cause of the benedryl and I feel pretty normal at the moment. I'm all for that. I keep waiting on se's to hit like all the other times. Talked to the onc about %'s today. About it coming back and junk. I guess with my exact diagnosis 80% of the women are cured and about the same live. Wish it was higher numbers but I'll take what I can get. I was hoping for in the 90's.
About 2 months back, I was in to get my neulasta shot and came across another lady sitting there. She was a week or so away from her surgery, she had chemo first like some of you. I sat and talked to her a bit and told her my experience with my mastectomy and how I felt that losing my hair was way worse than losing the boob etc. We went over several different things, I got my shot and wished her well as I went out the door. I was sitting there wiating to get hooked up today and I look over... there she sat. I just had to ask how her surgery went. It took her a moment to recognize me and she just lit up. She told me that my talk with her helped her out so much and when different things happened she would think back to our conversation. I told her there had been many times I thought of her also and had hoped all had went well for her. It really brightened my day to know just that little bit helped somebody else going thru the same thing. I believe that God put me in her path that day to ease her mind about what was coming. I didn't get to spend alot of time with her today, her wbc was low so she was coming back the next day. But I'm sure I will see her again in 3 weeks. She is on weekly taxol and me on 3 wk herceptin.
Oh lookie, my post is ALMOST as long as eddie's... I'm going to have to work on that more LOL <wink wink> :O) I'm off to have dinner then to pick up my prescrip of tamoxifin....yay another pill to take. :OP <---- new face for rock to swipe
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I suppose we all have the stats on our (messy) minds at the moment. I noticed this link on this site earlier today: http://cancer.lifemath.net/breastcancer/therapy/index.php
I don't know how much store to place by these things but I guess it's food for thought..hopefully with a bit more integrity than a horoscope..... XX
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Hi Ladies
I new at this chat. I have completed 4 chemo & still have 2 to go. I then have 30 radium treatment so should take me into next year. Lovely thought. Not so positive today as I feel sick from chemo when I thought this was suppose to be my good week. Last week I had to have a pic line put in my upper arm. For some reason I feel really down about this. I feel like a constant patients when I only agreed to go bald and be a patient once every 3 weeks when I have chemo. The plastic skin they put over this is so itchy it is driving me mad, Have any of you found this happened to you.
I also have to go next friday 10th to have Tattoo for Radium. Can any of you tell me anything about this. Like how many do the usually do and is it stars, crosses lines, does it hurt.
Today I feel like jumping off this rollercoaster but I know I wont.
Thanks.........Mini
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Rock - Lovin' the Manilow and especially the idea of seeing where you walk every day. You put a song in my heart (and my head!).
And for everyone - Thanks. I had a little bit of trouble tolerating the Carbo today (in fact, excuse me while I go take a Zofran...okay, I'm back) and they had to stop it for awhile and just do the saline/hydration until the nausea went away. It wasn't as bad when they started it again, but all I kept thinking was "I'm finishing this, I'm finishing this, I'm finishing this." I'm not sure I could have done it without you guys swimming beside me. So thanks.
Mini - I had my tattos last week. The whole process is a bit long, but my understanding is the "prep" appointment is the longest. The tatts are very small dots - I have 3 along right side. They didn't hurt anymore than the IV poke.
I do have a pole dance picture (with my socks on, so it's truly chemo sexy) and I will get it posted but probably not today. I'm fading fast and still have kids to feed, do homework with, bathe and get to bed. Dh is here and will help, though.
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Chemo-for-Christine-feck-off!!! Yeah!
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Cris--YOU DID IT!!!!! (I know you feel like dog crap right now, but you never have to do this again!!!) I am so proud of you, I can't imagine going thru chemo AND taking care of kids like you have. Welcome to Camp Recovery, the other side of the river, getting back to your life!!! Rads are a breeze compared to chemo, fatigue and redness/tenderness which is relatively minor..steroid cream immediately after treatment and at bedtime, wearing tank tops under my clothes instead of anything with a band, very tolerable.
YAY CRIS!! And in the words of Kerry, FECK_OFF_CHEMO!!!!!!
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Chemoooooo! Cris!!!
Siouxie! Glad you are around!
Rock, I had a dream last night that we were talking on the phone.
Eddie, I often think about having the other breast gone too.
Angels glad your time away is almost over
RanD, Will be thinkin' about you all day tomorrow. If you have not already,take pics of your bod with boobs, even if you only have one pic, it is a nice thing to have. Christina Ag did it, I did it, lots of people do it. I hope you get Eddie's version of surgery and not mine, but I am glad you have us to let you in on all the things you might be up against...
I promised I would be in bed early 2 nite and it's already midnight. feck!
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WHO HOOOOO Chris, isn't the water wonderful here???????
Okay, surgery scheduled for 930 am ....Hope to be back online sometime Staurday. Last time, i had to sneak around and unplug the bed phone and hook it up to my laptop.....shhhhhhhh, I felt like a naughty school girl again, lol.....
other than that, packed my huge canister of clorox wipes (shout out for a product endorsement here), change of clothing (bought some cute zip up sweatshirts today), socks, MP3 player (new one, a great b-day present from my mom, thanks mom!), movies (okay, I have to confess, my kids hooked me on 7th Heaven, so I want to see the 1st season, plus another set of TV series, can't remember the titles, chemo brain kicked in), apaperback, just in case, toiletries and I think that;'s it....
so, see you all on the other side..... not sure about taking pictures, always havemy cell phone if I change my mind!!!
take care, randie
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