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Susie,
I guess $84 mil doesn't buy too much. I hate to think Obama will win this thing because he has 4 times the money McCain has to spend.
I was just reading an email I received from a friend and it has the low down on what all went on in the White House meeting last week with Obama and McCain. Obama went off the walls there? Do you have the scoop? What I have is way too long to post.
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Don't have anything---I thought it was Chuck Schumer who went off the walls...........
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Well I have no idea who called me--Caller Id just said out of area 1-000-000-0000. First time I accepted one of these calls and thought I'd be getting a list of questions---nope
They asked if I was a registered voter---- If the election was today who would I vote for Obama or McCain. I said McCain---They said is that definate---I said yes...... They said Oh----Whoever it was I definately did not make their day....... I asked is that all their is--- their answer yes........
Normally would have not participated or at best would have been undecided.
Is that standard for these calls? I wonder who I was talking to?
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This is some of what I have, but in good ole Rush fashion it makes little sense of what Obama was going off the walls about:
Rush Transcript:
RUSH: Now, folks, I want to tell you what happened at the White House meeting yesterday, and you are going to be stunned. You wouldn't believe it. Well, sadly, you will believe this. At the meeting, you had McCain and Obama, you had John Boehner, you had Dingy Harry Reid, you had Barney Frank. Chris Dodd was in there. Pelosi was in there. There were some others, but these are the principals. The meeting ostensibly was requested by McCain. Well, no, the meeting was originally requested by Paulson. Remember, Paulson -- and this is crucial here. Paulson, the Treasury Secretary, called Lindsey Grahamnesty. This according to Bob Schieffer of CBS.
Paulson called Lindsey Grahamnesty and said, "Look, I need the House Republicans. I need Republicans on this. We can't get anywhere without them. You've gotta call McCain. He's the only one that can do it." So that's why McCain goes to Washington , and they end up having a four o'clock meeting at the White House yesterday. They all think they're going into a negotiating session. The president, in order to let everybody be heard, deferred to various Democrats, and every one of the Democrats -- Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, and Frank -- declined to speak and deferred to Obama. So Obama became the official Democrat spokesman in the meeting. This was to hype Obama's leadership and presidential aura and so forth. What happened next, the first thing out of Obama's mouth -- Paulson is in the meeting -- is he starts ripping the House Republican proposal and asks Paulson what he thinks of it.
This led Boehner and the other Republicans in there to think they have been sandbagged. We found out this morning that Obama had no clue -- because he was in transit doing other things, he had no clue -- what the House Republican position was. What happened was that on the way to the meeting sometime during the day, Obama's staff received an e-mail from Treasury Department employees who work for Paulson detailing the House Republican plan. So when the Democrats deferred to Obama, he launched into that. He had no clue what it was. That's why he asked Paulson for his comments. I don't know what Paulson said, but this is what led to the fireworks. This is what led to everything breaking down in there. This is why Dingy Harry walked out, 'cause it didn't work.
It ended up with Obama essentially chairing the meeting, with the meeting falling apart. The president was described as "beleaguered," trying to regain control of the meeting. McCain didn't say hardly anything. Everybody was yelling and screaming in there. McCain did not. He said, "We've gotta put these differences aside, work together," you know, typical McCain. "According to an Obama campaign source..." and this is from the American Spectator blog today. "According to an Obama campaign source, the notes on the Republican position, House Republican position were passed to Obama via senior aides traveling with him who had been e-mailed the document via a current Goldman Sachs employee and Wall Street fundraiser for the Obama campaign. The Obama campaign source said, 'It was made clear the memo was from friends and it was reliable.' The memo, which basically briefed Obama on the Republican position..." -
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You see, Obama did not defend the Democrat position on this. He led off with an attack on the Republican position, as though it was a shock and a surprise, under the auspices that this deal had already been agreed to. When of course there's no surprise about what House Republicans believe and there's no surprise what conservatism is. "The memo allowed Obama and his fellow Democrats to box in Republican attendees and essentially took what President Bush had billed as a negotiating meeting off the rails." Now, "'Paulson and his team have not acted in good faith for this President or the administration for which they serve,' says a House Republican leader who was not present at the White House meeting" and told the American Spectator. Paulson -- Goldman Sachs -- is a Democrat. He's very close to Chuck Schumer, and obviously close to Obama.
So this whole meeting yesterday essentially was established to show off Obama's leadership skills and negotiating skills, and he blew it! People who disagree with him, he has no idea how to negotiate with. Even Obama ended up last night on TV. I think the Democrats were so frightened that the truth would come out about what happened in this meeting. Obama started flooding the TV networks about 6:30. He was on Fox News with "Brett" Hume. He called him Brett. He was on World News Today. He was all over the place, doing a bit of a CYA without explaining why he was doing a CYA. But I want you to listen to what he said to "Brett" Hume on the Fox News Channel last night. It was a bit of a press conference. It wasn't that he called the networks and said, "I want to be on." But he held the press conference and listen to what he said. -
Rosemary..I'm waiting. What did he say?
Linda, you are so correct about the young. Not only young college students, but young..not so young..adults like my dds. As you know one (now definitely two) are voting for Obama. I know one of them gets bombarded with emails and she does not have the time (so she says..she could take time with her boyfriend and do some research
) to look into things. She just takes their word for it. You'd think with all the times she has come to me for advice she'd LISTEN to me. I tell her things or ask her questions and she cannot come back with a decent answer. She knows she doesn't want Palin in there...she says she charged for rape kits..not proven..aerial hunting...more to it than JUST aerial hunting. Geez. My dd has more brains than that, I THOUGHT! However, she is liberal. Then the other dd...I DON'T WANT FOUR MORE YEARS OF BUSH! OMGOSH! My middle dd who is my favorite (that's what she says cuz she gave me my two grandchildren) is voting for Obama.
Does anyone else make themselves sick by not being able to get across to their loved ones that Obama is not ready to be prez. Talk about Palin! Give me a freaking break.
I'm rambling again because I'm so darned distraught over how McCain is handling all of this. It's like he's given up. He doesn't care if that woman does the VP debates. He thinks she's professional. Well, may be so. But she needs to recuse herself IMO.
Here's an email from my dd. Yeah, I know I shouldn't share private messages, but this makes no sense. That's how much she knows about this stuff. My dd's email. What do you think? LOL
This is stupid. If the M/P campaign had bothered to do a simple internet search, they would have quickly learned she had written this book. If our (Democrat) candidates had been so stupid and lazy as to fail to do a simple background check via google, we would have deserved it. The M/P campaign didn't bother to do the most basic of research so that they could object in a timely manner or otherwise give informed consent. Instead they just agreed to have her moderate without proper research, and now on the back end, they're complaining. Too bad for them.
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Shirley - Your daughters sound intelligent and certainly well-informed. You did a fantastic job raising them
[Sorry - I just couldn't resist...backing quietly out of the room now...]
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LOL, Donna. I can understand why you think so. At least they do have a mind of their own. EXCEPT that they do not search, research, read...etc. My middle dd is just as intelligent and she has enough sense to know to vote for McCain WITHOUT me suggesting she do so.
Shirley
Yes, I'm very proud of my dds even if a couple of them are liberal.
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I posted this on the bail out thread. Meant to post it here. I could have high lighted the entire article. This is from THE N. Y Times by Wallison. Oops, it's not written by Wallison, but there's a quote in there from him. Dh is calling.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
September 30, 1999
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.
The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.
Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates -- anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.
''Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements,'' said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae's chairman and chief executive officer. ''Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.''
Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market.
In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's.
''From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,'' said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. ''If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.''
Under Fannie Mae's pilot program, consumers who qualify can secure a mortgage with an interest rate one percentage point above that of a conventional, 30-year fixed rate mortgage of less than $240,000 -- a rate that currently averages about 7.76 per cent. If the borrower makes his or her monthly payments on time for two years, the one percentage point premium is dropped.
Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, does not lend money directly to consumers. Instead, it purchases loans that banks make on what is called the secondary market. By expanding the type of loans that it will buy, Fannie Mae is hoping to spur banks to make more loans to people with less-than-stellar credit ratings.
Fannie Mae officials stress that the new mortgages will be extended to all potential borrowers who can qualify for a mortgage. But they add that the move is intended in part to increase the number of minority and low income home owners who tend to have worse credit ratings than non-Hispanic whites.
Home ownership has, in fact, exploded among minorities during the economic boom of the 1990's. The number of mortgages extended to Hispanic applicants jumped by 87.2 per cent from 1993 to 1998, according to Harvard University's Joint Center for Housing Studies. During that same period the number of African Americans who got mortgages to buy a home increased by 71.9 per cent and the number of Asian Americans by 46.3 per cent.
In contrast, the number of non-Hispanic whites who received loans for homes increased by 31.2 per cent.
Despite these gains, home ownership rates for minorities continue to lag behind non-Hispanic whites, in part because blacks and Hispanics in particular tend to have on average worse credit ratings.
In July, the Department of Housing and Urban Development proposed that by the year 2001, 50 percent of Fannie Mae's and Freddie Mac's portfolio be made up of loans to low and moderate-income borrowers. Last year, 44 percent of the loans Fannie Mae purchased were from these groups.
The change in policy also comes at the same time that HUD is investigating allegations of racial discrimination in the automated underwriting systems used by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to determine the credit-worthiness of credit applicants.
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Walters Scolds Hasselbeck for Allegedly Never Conceding a Point
By Justin McCarthy | October 1, 2008 - 14:43On the October 1 edition of "The View" Barbara Walters chastised Elisabeth Hasselbeck for allegedly never conceding a point, but never offered such a criticism for left-wing ideologue Joy Behar or even looney conspiracy theorist Rosie O'Donnell. This occurred just as rumors abound that Elisabeth is clashing with her fellow co-hosts.
Responding to more Sarah Palin bashing and Joy Behar labeling the Alaska governor "dumb" (talk about the pot calling the kettle black) Hasselbeck once again rose up as the lone voice on the panel, and even a hostile studio audience, in defending Governor Palin. Apparently taking issue with disputing some co-hosts' assertion that Palin lacks the intellectual capacity to be vice president, Barbara Walters exclaimed "every single day you never ever say ‘maybe this is another point.'"
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Governor Sarah Palin is coming to Dallas and San Antonio - Friday, October 3rd.
Let's welcome Governor Palin 'Texas-Style'. Please mark this date on your Calendar -- Friday, October 3, 2008. Don't forget to bring signs, placards, bullhorns, American and Texas Flags. This is a time to "Take our Stand" for the McCain-Palin Republican ticket and we want YOU to be present!!
Please do your best in circulating the word and pass this information around to ALL your family and friends! We expect a large gathering of McCain/Palin supporters, and we ARE going to make her feel welcomed to TEXAS.
Let's go have some fun!!Dallas -
The Fairmont Hotel 1717 N Akard St
Dallas, TX 75201
(214) 720-2020
Corner of Ross and Akard Streets- Downtown Dallas
Begin gathering outside the Hotel no later than 10:30am
For additional information please contact:
Charles Lingerfelt, Chairman
Senatorial District 2 - Dallas County Republicans
972.400.2898- MobileSan Antonio - San Antonio Marriott Rivercenter 101 Bowie Street San Antonio, TX 78205 (210) 223-1000 Corner of Bowie & Commerce-San Antonio
Begin gathering at the SW corner of Bowie & Commerce St no later than 3:30pm.
For additional information please contact:
Tom Marks, Field Director - South Texas
TEXAS VICTORY 2008
512.592.1826 http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tmarks@texasgop.org or Pat Hingst 830.935.3221 http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pmhingst@gvtc.com -
Part 3 This is what he said:
OBAMA: Well, h--h- here's my, uh... --
RUSH: Number two!
OBAMA: I think that the way that I've been working over the last week, constantly in contact with the secretary and the congressional leaders, um, uh, eh, you know, may end up creating an environment in which you can actually get somethin' done.
RUSH: So he's admitting nothing got done in there. It's probably not good for him to be in things like this. It's better for him to be away, somewhere on the sidelines in constant contact with everybody on the phone. Obama said, "You know what? It's just better if everybody else gets in the room and then I arbitrate on the phone." I watched his statement when he got on his campaign plane today and heading down to Oxford , Mississippi , for the debate, he said same thing. "Well, anymore constant contact. I have been talking with," and he mentioned all Democrats. "I've been talking to them all morning today. I'll continue to talk to them and I'll continue to be available if necessary." This, ladies and gentlemen, I think it's a tremendous indication.
I don't know why... Pepole ask, "Why didn't the White House put this out?" (sigh) The White House is interested in the deal getting done. They don't want to insert themselves in presidential politics. Dana Perino was asked about this in her press conference this morning or her White House briefing. She was asked about the White House meeting and then what happened. "Well, you know, we're gonna protect things that are going on. We really don't want to insert ourselves into presidential politics" and so forth. But I'll tell you what: This disaster that was Obama attempting to take over and chair the meeting yesterday, makes sense of what's happening today. The Democrats have unleashed this blitzkrieg of insults and bizarre accusations directed at McCain. "He shouldn't have shown up. We could have gotten this done without presidential politics. He came in here and blew it up."
McCain did put some stuff out last night to the people in the press on their mailing list, and from the sounds of the things from McCain's campaign. Obama was off -- they're confirming this, too, but not in as slam-dunk a way. But they're confirming that without the prompter he doesn't know what he's doing in there; things broke down quickly after his first point was raised. It was a disaster with Obama at the helm, and he probably made a fool of himself in that room, and the Democrats are running interference today trying to lay all this failure and all this off on McCain. It is no wonder he didn't want to be in Washington when the sausage was being made, to use a cliche. It's no wonder. McCain forced him there, dragged him there kicking and screaming. That post-meeting statement -- by the way, it took a few hours to come up with this, you know? He and his 300 PR advisors had to craft that statement. Play sound bite number two again. Listen to this.
OBAMA: I think that the way that I've been working over the last week, constantly in contact with the secretary and the congressional leaders, um, uh, eh, you know, may end up creating an environment in which you can actually get somethin' done.
RUSH: I can't get over that. He's admitting something can't get done with him in the room, in charge of things. He's admitting it here! He was in charge and the meeting ended in chaos. Apparently Obama works best when leaders get their hands dirty and he can talk to them by phone. Because that way when he's on the phone his thinkers can sort out what his reaction should be to what he is hearing on the other end of the phone. -
I'll try this post again:
Governor Sarah Palin is coming to Dallas and San Antonio - Friday, October 3rd.
Let's welcome Governor Palin 'Texas-Style'.Please mark this date on your Calendar -- Friday, October 3, 2008. Don't forget to bring signs, placards, bullhorns, American and Texas Flags. This is a time to "Take our Stand" for the McCain-Palin Republican ticket and we want YOU to be present!!
Please do your best in circulating the word and pass this information around to ALL your family and friends! We expect a large gathering of McCain/Palin supporters, and we ARE going to make her feel welcomed to TEXAS.
Let's go have some fun!!Dallas -
The Fairmont Hotel 1717 N Akard St
Dallas, TX 75201
(214) 720-2020
Corner of Ross and Akard Streets- Downtown Dallas
Begin gathering outside the Hotel no later than 10:30am
For additional information please contact:
Charles LingerfeltSan Antonio - San Antonio Marriott Rivercenter 101 Bowie Street San Antonio, TX 78205 (210) 223-1000 Corner of Bowie & Commerce-San Antonio
Begin gathering at the SW corner of Bowie & Commerce St no later than 3:30pm.
For additional information please contact:
Tom Marks, Field Director - South Texas
TEXAS VICTORY 2008
512.592.1826 http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tmarks@texasgop.org -
I notice how all the women who wouldn't support Hillary are all telling Gov. Palin to go home too. It does give me a laugh. But a lot of the women who did support Hillary are now supporting Palin.
Should I be reading something into this? Could it be these women are just Obama supporters and they'd crush, kill and destroy any other woman that should get in his path?
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quoting from Shirley's post
"This is stupid. If the M/P campaign had bothered to do a simple internet search, they would have quickly learned she had written this book. If our (Democrat) candidates had been so stupid and lazy as to fail to do a simple background check via google, we would have deserved it. The M/P campaign didn't bother to do the most basic of research so that they could object in a timely manner or otherwise give informed consent. Instead they just agreed to have her moderate without proper research, and now on the back end, they're complaining. Too bad for them."
Shirley----McCain had no reason to distrust the CPD.... Ifill had an obligation to tell the the Commission on Presidential Debates about the book. She did not. How could the CPD make a determination about her impartiality without that info? It was wrong to withhold that information from the commission......
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I agree, Susie. That's how out of touch my dd is. She had to come up with some irrational reason why it was up to McCain's campaign to do the research when there was no reason for him to do so. It was definitely up to Ifill to let both campaigns know that she had this book coming out ON inauguration day.
I was listening to Morris tonight explain how profits are made from books. He should know. He's written plenty of them. If Obama wins she makes several thousands dollars if not higher. If Obama loses she sells four books to her relatives. LOL
I told my dd that McCain wasn't worried about her "fairness." Otherwise, McCain took the high road. I'm tired of him being so damned nice. Niceness isn't gonna win this campaign.
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Summer, I was reading your posts. It sickens me, but also makes me extremely sad that women can be so mean....like calling Palin a Vagina.
Here's something that's funny. The sad part is Ms. Tubbs and supporter of Hillary is no longer with us.
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Shirley, you are right. A political spin doctor said tonight (a neighbor) that McCain has to come out blazing. (And that Chris Dodd has been drunk for 25years...)
You know I e-mailed local McCain people for signs the night Palin was introduced. I was called yesterday and told that I could pick them up---40 minutes away!!! This is Dem territory, and there are real Republicans on my street~~~~why aren't they bringing them to us??? There are MamaforObama signs everywhere.
We are in trouble.
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From The Awful Truth:
But, our always reliable Desk DeeCee (a highly attached conduit to the current White House, no joke), is kind enough to us know where it looks like Palin is going now: "You would be surprised at how popular and well-received she is," Desk Dee surmises of Palin's reception within the inner Potomac circles, which ain't exactly high on Bush, so don't get any ideas these red folk are always happy with anybody Republican.
Our well established know-it-all continues: "Personally, I don't agree with any of her policies or positions, and I don't think she's qualified to be vice president." Me too, babycakes, please go on! "That said, she has energized the party's base, and she's made a lot of people sit up and take notice. The Katie Couric interview didn't and won't have that big an impact on Palin's numbers because people generally don't trust Couric, so it won't matter. Same with Charlie Gibson. And, the more the media favors Obama as blatantly as they have been (MSNBC, CNN, etc.) the better that is for McCain. The general American public doesn't trust the media, and they don't trust the talking heads. They vote with their gut."
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After reading this there is no doubt in my mind Gwen Ifill can be completely neutral, and compose questions that didn't come directly from the Obama campaign:
http://www.essence.com/news_entertainment/news/articles/michelleobamabesidebarack/essence.com
And I keep buying the Brooklyn Bridge. It seems we have to buy it in sections so I'm told.
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This is really creepy - reminiscent of Hitler's Germany:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LsrtppY2Dc
Then send it to everyone you know. The mother who made the video posted it on YouTube and got so many negative comments she took it down but not before several people copied it. See for yourself - she is claiming copyright so it may get taken down again.
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Suz, I think Susie posted this video last week. Oreilly did a piece on it last night and he was saying that it was put on Obama's website as a link, until they started to get such a negative response. Then they took it off, but it had already gone viral. People should just skip the news and check in here with us. I think we tend to have a jump on mainstream media.LOL
Rosemary, that was a really great post about what went on behind closed doors. I just get so frustrated that I cannot find these stories without hunting for them. Where the hell is the media? I just wish they could get SOME of the truth out there.
McCain was on fox this morning. He does not seem fluxed at all. They asked him if he was going to get tougher, and he kind of laughed it off. Everyone is saying he has to start answering Obama's attacks. I hope he is cool because he feels he has an ace up his sleeve.
Maybe the McCain campaign is glad that someone in the tank for Obama is giving this interview with Palin, hoping to expose the media bias if she does not ask them both the same questions? The other key is will she give them both equal time. With all Obama's interruptions, he got more time against McCain.
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