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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    Linda, don't you remember that Newt was thinking about running for prez this year.  I think he decided he needed to do other worthwhile things.  He is one smart man.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    Pansy, I'm slow...very slow..and don't multi-task to well anymore.  I'll blame it on chemo brain and AI fog.

    I made a dish called Vegetarian No-Pasta Lasagna.  Eggplants are used instead of lasagna noodles.  And the eggplant slices have to be roasted.  The peppers have to be roasted..yada yada.  I doubled the recipe, thus more roasting time.  Here's the recipe if anyone likes this kind of stuff.  I used a little more cheese.  It's from South Beach Diet.  Of course I added more calories by adding more cheese.  But I had not eaten all day..yes I did...some cottage cheese and a few nuts.  No, I'm not on a diet.  I need to be.  Is it Linda who wears a size 8?  Yell

    Don't ask me why it took me so long.  One reason is, like I said, mult-tasking, and the other is sitting down a bit cuz my back was bothering me. 

    Vegetarian No-Pasta Lasagna

    Vegetarian No-Pasta Lasagna (Phase 1)

    Makes 4-6 servings

    Ingredients
    4 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
    2 tablespoons garlic, chopped fine
    2 tablespoons onion, chopped fine
    2 (14.5-ounce) cans stewed tomatoes
    2 tablespoons dried oregano
    1 (6-ounce) can tomato paste
    Salt and ground black pepper to taste
    2 large eggplants
    2 tablespoons dried thyme
    1 large yellow squash, thinly sliced lengthwise (optional)
    1 cup part-skim ricotta cheese
    1 large egg
    1/2 cup fresh-grated Parmesan cheese
    2 cups (4 whole) roasted peppers
    1/2 cup shredded part-skim mozzarella
    1/4 cup fresh basil, shredded
    2 cups spinach (optional)

    Instructions
    Preheat oven to 450°F. Heat 3 tablespoons of oil in skillet and cook garlic and onion until they become aromatic and begin to brown. Add stewed tomatoes and 1 tablespoon dried oregano. Once tomatoes begin to bubble, stir in tomato paste. Reduce heat to low, add salt and pepper to taste, cover, and let simmer lightly while you continue.

    Slice eggplant lengthwise in 1/4" slices. Spread out eggplant slices on a rimmed cookie sheet sprayed lightly with nonstick cooking spray. Salt the slices generously on both sides, sprinkle with thyme, and lightly brush (fingers are fine) with the remaining olive oil. Roast eggplant in oven until tender and slightly browned. If using yellow squash, also roast briefly until soft and pliable. Remove and let cool enough to be able to handle. Reduce oven to 375°F.

    Meanwhile, stir together ricotta cheese, egg, remaining oregano, and 1/4 cup of Parmesan cheese. In a 12" x 9" baking dish, spread 1/4 cup of tomato sauce. Cover with 3 or 4 eggplant slices, then half of the roasted peppers, and then a third of the ricotta-cheese mixture, followed by a third of the mozzarella. Sprinkle half the basil over cheeses, and then spinach and yellow squash (if using). Cover with more tomato sauce, eggplant, peppers, ricotta, mozzarella, and basil. Top with remaining eggplant, tomato sauce, mozzarella, and any remaining Parmesan. Cover with foil and bake for about 15 minutes. Remove foil and bake for about 15 minutes more or until cheese is bubbly and beginning to brown. Remove and let cool for at least 5 minutes before serving.

    Nutritional information
    354 calories
    12 g sugar
    18 total fat (7 g sat)
    67 mg cholesterol
    35 g carbohydrate
    17 g protein
    3 g fiber
    755 mg sodium

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    Linda, I'm trying hard to reach that 2000!

    Shirley

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited September 2008

    Katie carol questioned Senator Palin on Russia.  I need to enlighten folks on the fact that Alaska pays a big toll on protecting the U.S. interest, as any Country (with all due respect to any country) does.  Katie just doesn't get it. 

    The 'Distant Early Warning Line', also known as the 'DEW Line' or 'Early Warning Line', was a system of radar stations in the far northern Arctic region of Canada, with additional stations along the North Coast and Aleutian Islands of Alaska, in addition to the Faroe Islands, Greenland, and Iceland. It was set up to detect incoming Soviet bombers during the Cold War, a task which quickly became outdated when intercontinental ballistic missiles became the main delivery system for nuclear weapons.
    The DEW Line was the northernmost and most capable of three radar lines in Canada; the joint Canadian-US Pinetree Line ran from Newfoundland to Vancouver Island, and the Mid-Canada Line ran somewhat north of this.

    Improvements in Soviet technology rendered the Pinetree Line and Mid-Canada Line line inadequate and on February 15, 1954, the Canadian and American governments agreed to jointly build a third line of radar stations, this time running across the high Arctic. The line would run roughly along the 69th parallel, 200 miles or 300 kilometers north of the Arctic Circle. The Americans agreed to pay for the line using Canadian labor. The majority of Canadian DEW Line stations were the responsibility of the Royal Canadian Air Force (Canadian Forces after 1968) although some manned facilities were jointly staffed with the U.S. Air Force.
    The massive construction project employed over 25,000 people. The line consisted of sixty-three stations stretching from Alaska to Baffin Island, covering almost 10,000 km. The locations were mapped out by John Anderson-Thompson[1] The project was finished in 1957 and was considered an engineering marvel. The next year, the line became a cornerstone of the new NORAD organization of joint continental air defence

    .There were three types of stations: small unmanned "gap fillers" that were checked by aircrews only every few months during the summer; intermediate stations with only a chief, a chef, and a mechanic; and larger stations that had a variable number of employees and may have had libraries, movie projectors, and other distractions. The stations used a number of long-range pulse radar systems known as AN/FPS-19. The "gaps" between the stations were watched by the directional AN/FPS-23 Doppler radar systems, similar to those pioneered only a few years earlier on the Mid-Canada Line. The stations were interconnected by a series of radio communications systems, often relying on tropospheric scattering.
    Quite quickly after its completion, the line lost much of its purpose. It was useless against ICBMs and submarine-launched attacks. A number of stations were decommissioned, but the bulk were retained to monitor potential Soviet air activities and to assert Canada's sovereignty in the Arctic.
    In 1985, the more capable of the DEW Line stations were upgraded and merged with newly-built stations into the North Warning System. Automation was increased and a number of additional stations were closed. In 1990, with the end of the Cold War and collapse of the Soviet Union, the United States withdrew all their personnel and turned full operation of the Canadian stations over to Canada, while retaining responsibility for NWS stations located in Alaska and Greenland.

    In Point Lay, Alaska, the main AN/FPS-19 search radar is in the dome, flanked by two AN/FRC-45 lateral communications dishes (or AN/FRC-102, depending on the date). To the left are the much larger southbound AN/FRC-101 communications dishes. Not visible is the AN/FPS-23 "gap filler" Doppler antenna.
    The DEW Line was upgraded with fifteen new FPS-117 phased-array radars between 1985 and 1994, and re-named the North Warning System.[2]

    A controversy also developed between the United States and Canada over the cleanup of deactivated Canadian DEW Line sites. The stations had produced large amounts of hazardous waste that had been abandoned in the high Arctic. Especially damaging were the large quantities of PCBs. While the United States insisted that it was Canada's responsibility to cleanup the sites they had managed, the Canadian government disagreed. In 1996, an agreement was reached that saw the United States contribute $100 million to the estimated $600 million cleanup

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited October 2008
  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited October 2008
  • Daffodil
    Daffodil Member Posts: 829
    edited October 2008

    Thanks for the good info, Canadian Cousin Summer! Yes, the Silver Stud is cute; so is his boyfriend.

    (Katie must think that if she's real mean and tough, the Big Boys won't fire her.)

    Fab recipe, Shirley!! I think I could sneak that one egg past the almost-vegan in-laws! (They do eat cheese.) If the Vegan Nazis are lurking, I will look for egg substitute.Embarassed

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited October 2008
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    After this I AM going to bed.  I'm nuts cuz I eat too many nuts!

    I used a little more cheese than the recipe calls for.  I also used a can of Italian style stewed tomatoes and tried to cut them up a bit.  Then, of course, the plain tomatoes. 

    Pansy, I'm kinda wondering if you could do without the egg.

    This is one of those recipes you can kind of mess with and do some of your own thing.

    Nite nite.

    Shirley

    Are we going to change this thread to a recipe thread for conservative feminist women?  Laughing

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited September 2008

    Linda,

    Terrible withdrawal symptoms.  That old saying, may we live in interesting times is only as good as when we can talk about these interesting times.  I had no one to talk with about all this.  No one around me seems interested in politics.  They're going to vote for whomever and don't have much to say about it.  Or aren't keeping up.

    Here's a case in point:  This lady is saying why she is voting for Obama because he's more frugal and he'll do a better job on the economy.  He has suggested $1 trillion in spending so far.  He even wants to pay for everyone's college education. Then add our infrastructure repairs, not being mentioned, and the bail-out money and we're bankrupt.  But to this lady, he's more frugal:

     http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080926/pl_bloomberg/a32tl5c5hhc

    "Poll respondent Dolcie Rogers, an 80-year-old retired copy editor and Republican, attributes the nation's woes in part to a spendthrift mentality of the younger generation now in control, including Bush. While she hasn't decided who she will vote for, Rogers said she prefers Obama's approach to the economy.

    ``I was a Depression child, so you don't get too excited about stuff and you don't spend, spend, spend,'' said Rogers, who lives in Botkins, Ohio. Obama, 47, is ``my kind,'' she said. ``He's frugal and he wants to make every penny count.'' "

    ////

    I'm watching the Palin - Couric interview- part one, thanks Shirley for finding it.  Did anyone notice Katie's face?  Her and Charlie, what's with the faces they are making?  Katie's look was more of disdain to me.

    I found out last night on the news that there still is a half a million Texans without electricity.  They're putting signs on their homes, plug us in.

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited September 2008

    Off topic one second.  You know that chemo brain that everyone talks about?  Shirley have you had a blood test for any vitamin deficiencies?  My husband was showing crazy signs of forgetfulness, weakness and a bunch of other things, and I took him to the Dr. and asked him to test for everything, including electrolites.  Sure enough, B-12 deficiency came up.  He's been getting shots now for it, and I already see an improvement.

    Ok, back to our regular programming.

  • suzfive
    suzfive Member Posts: 456
    edited September 2008

    On the equal pay thing - Legislation passed by the Federal Government of the United States in 1963 made it illegal to pay men and women different wage rates for equal work on jobs that require equal skill, effort, and responsibility and are performed under similar working conditions. (From Wikipedia).

    The so-called wage gap is because women tend to take time off to have children, don't want to travel as much etc. Men tend to take jobs that are riskier, etc. Studies have been done and they have found that for men and women doing exactly the same job for the same amount of time they are paid the same. The studies that say women make less than men are looking at all women against all men - does not take into account that men may be doing things that the women have not done or that the women may not have as much seniority because they took time off to have a family, etc. It is just a ploy to get women to vote for them. The pay discrepancy in Obama and McCain's offices is because the staff in McCain's office have been there longer. I also heard that in McCain's office the women make more than the men - again probably because they have been there longer.

    Shirley - that recipe sounds yummy. My youngest dd is a vegetarian so I will have to try it.

    Rosemary - those people only know about Obama from what they get from the MSM who think he is the second coming!

    Linda - Obama can say anything he wants right now and the MSM will paint it so he smells like a rose - more like garbage to me! I do hope that McCain will go to Mississippi tonight and debate him. Can you imagine if the roles were reversed Obama went to Washington and McCain said "call me if you need me" - he would have been skewered.

    I heard last night that some Democratic PAC groups are airing ads about McCain's history of cancer questioning if he is fit to be President. I haven't seen one yet but apparently they show a picture of him taken after one of his surgeries with a big bandage on his face. They try to imply that because he won't release his medical records he is hiding something. Apparently, he did let reporters look at them but not make copies - for heavens sake - medical records are private! Obama did not release his - just a statement from his doctor to say he was in good health. As a cancer patient myself I think this is appalling. Aren't we trying to NOT discriminate.

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited October 2008

    Rosemary-Looks like you win again-number 2000! You came back to us just in time to reclaim your crown-thanks to Shirley upping the number! Who will take Rosemary's crown away by turning page 100?????

    I have to put my two cents in about your lasagna Shirley. I am half Italian and there are certain things that are part of our religion. Cooking is one of them. First of all, the egg should not be left out. It acts to bind the cheese so you do not have a runny mess. Second, do not ever put hamburger in anything! You can use crumbled sausage for the guys who want their meat, but never use ground beef.  I actually make a really fast version of the veggie lasagne. I put the crumbled sausage on one side for the guys and leave my side plain.

    Here is a quick and easy version:

    slice zuchinni and yellow squash, microwave for 5 minutes, and drain well. Meanwhile saute the onions(and mushrooms if you can get your guys to eat them, I cant), lots of garlic, add a can or two of diced tomatoes, lots of basil, some salt, red pepper, lots of oregano, parsley, and simmer a bit. Then layer the squash in a flat glass dish, cover with the tomato sauce, a layer of fresh tomato slices, some mozzarella and parmesean, bake at 350 until bubbly. Yum! Sorry about the measurements(lack of). I never measure anything.

    Another suggestion. All those veggies diced up and tossed with olive oil and herbs, are great if just roasted and eaten as a side dish. Sprinkle a little cheese on them when serving if you want, or you can even serve it with a pesto pasta. I do not each much pasta anymore the pesto is really good for you. I just put lots of basil in some olive oil, add some salt, blend well in a blender, and toss with pasta.

    Oh I forgot-about the cheese-NEVER use that junk in the green cans that looks like sawdust. Use real parmesean. Why spend all that time cooking and then top it off with sawdust??? Plus that stuff is really bad for you. I do not use any made in America cheese anymore, because they feed all those hormones to our cows. I only buy the imported stuff. Yes, I am a cheese snob. It is worth the little extra it costs.

    If you  assemble the lasagne the night before, do not pour the sauce on until you are ready to cook it or you will have a mushy pasta. And when you cook the pasta for lasagne, take it out of the pot while it is still firm and rinse in cold water to stop further cooking. It should be 'al dente', not limp.

    And my last Italian advice-never invite anyone who is Italian to your house for dinner and serve them Italian food. All Italians know that only they can cook right. Even my Italian relatives complain that the other members of the family can't cook. And we all use the same family recipes! By the way, we call sauce "gravy".

    I hope you have enjoyed my Italian cooking basics for the day. I know I am obsessed. It's in the blood!

    Now back to politics. . .

    So that is my Italian cooking lecture for the day. Please do not toss you spaghetti at me! Yes, I am a snob when it comes to Italian food. We all are!!

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited October 2008

    IBC-I was wondering where you have been. How is your wife doing? You know we are all praying for her. You are such a gem to be so caring. Let her know we are here for her too if she needs us. And I love the BeeGees too! Is our age showing or what! Let's go Disco!!!

    Pansy, I just cannot stand Anderson. I use to like him on "the mole". I thought he was so smart, but now he acts so elitist. I guess that's what happens when you have Gloria Vanderbilt for a mother!

    I can't figure out why they keep blasting Palin for her comment about living near Russia and that is her foreign policy experience. What experience did Clinton have living in Arkansas. What experience does Biden have in Delaware for that matter? Katie Couric acted like a smart ass, not a smart reporter. Why are they even giving her this interview? No one even watches CBS news anymore, except on YOUTUBE where we all saw it.  Thanks for all that info on Norad Summer. That was really interesting to learn about. We ARE in this thing together.

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited October 2008

    Forgot to add: Did you here Ann Coulter comment that she thinks Obama should debate Biden. She is so funny!!!!!

  • anneshirley
    anneshirley Member Posts: 1,110
    edited September 2008

    Linda--on Italian food, not politics, although Italian politics are fascinating, even more than here.

    We liived in Italy for five years and you're right about Italians not trusting anyone else's food.  We lived near Perugia and would go there occasionally for Chinese or Indian food but we would rarely see Italians in any of these places, only ex-pats.  And if we had Italians for a meal it had to be something (not Italian) but Umbrian, as Italians in one region don't eat the food from other regions. And another thing to learn is one should never praise the olive oil from another part of Italy, much less from another country.  It's viewed as a great insult. Since we lived in the center of Italy, one of the few places not near the sea, we couldn't even get fish in a restaurant, only lamb and pork, and the sea was only 70 minutes away. I did find Umbrians somewhat limited in their food choices, but the choices available were so good, we didn't miss the variety.  I never had a bad meal in Italy, just on rare occasions a medicore one, but usually the food was excellent and fresh. I loved shopping in the small vegetable market near our apartment--and always on a daily basis.  We never purchased in bulk, and never anything frozen. 

    You didn't mention that Americans use far too much sauce on their pasta. In Umbria they use just a small amount of sauce, whatever the sauce may be.  You're absolutely correct about the cheese.  We always use fresh cheese and grind as needed. Must say, I miss the food a lot!

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited October 2008
  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited October 2008
  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited October 2008
  • badboob67
    badboob67 Member Posts: 2,780
    edited September 2008

    I hope you guys don't mind my asking an O/T question. The recipes are making me hungry. Linda, since you know about italian cooking...do you have an easy meatball recipe? 

    I think Shirley's idea for a recipe thread is a good one!

    (((HUGS)))
    Diane

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    Loved the recipe for no pasta lasagna.  I use egg plant instead of yellow squash and its grrrrreat!

    I saw the add yesterday about McCains health issue with cancer.  Even though Im for Obama I thought the add was disgusting.  Obama didnt approve that message thank goodness. 

    Italian meatballs?  Make sure you put garlic and grated romano cheese in the mixture.  Its so yummy.

    Nicki

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited September 2008

    There is no doubt Italians have perfected the art of cooking, and each different region of Italy puts it's own twist on cuisine.

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited September 2008

    Msnbc just announced the presidential candidate debate will go as scheduled tonight.

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited September 2008

    Thanks Linda for the ideas--I should have thought about nukking the eggplant---Would that work?   I bought two of them on sale----What a mistake for me of little stamina---- Thought I'd bread them and oven bake them for some eggplant parmesan........Then I decided they wouldn't get done enough that way or have the right texture----

    Back to the salting, rinsing, draining, eggwash, breading, frying---having every pot and pan in the house needing to be cleaned........ nope never again...... Not in any condition for that kind of cooking anymore----need to simplify and streamline!   

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited September 2008

    What a crock--Dodd and Reid claiming that McCain impeded a done deal...... No way would any house Republican agree to that deal giving a huge amount of money to ACORN!

    You don't get more fraudulently run organizations than ACORN

    --------------------------------------------------

    The Democratic ACORN bailout; posted at 7:55 am on September 26, 2008 by Ed Morrissey


    House Republicans refused to support the Henry Paulson/Chris Dodd compromise bailout plan yesterday afternoon, even after the New York Times reported that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson got down on one knee to beg Nancy Pelosi to compromise.  One of the sticking points, as Senator Lindsey Graham explained later, wasn’t a lack of begging but a poison pill that would push 20% of all profits from the bailout into the Housing Trust Fund — a boondoggle that Democrats in Congress has used to fund political-action groups like ACORN and the National Council of La Raza:

        In the Roosevelt Room after the session, the Treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr., literally bent down on one knee as he pleaded with Nancy Pelosi, the House Speaker, not to “blow it up” by withdrawing her party’s support for the package over what Ms. Pelosi derided as a Republican betrayal.

        “I didn’t know you were Catholic,” Ms. Pelosi said, a wry reference to Mr. Paulson’s kneeling, according to someone who observed the exchange. She went on: “It’s not me blowing this up, it’s the Republicans.”

        Mr. Paulson sighed. “I know. I know.”

    Graham told Greta van Susteren that Democrats had their own priorities, and it wasn’t bailing out the financial sector:

        And this deal that’s on the table now is not a very good deal. Twenty percent of the money that should go to retire debt that will be created to solve this problem winds up in a housing organization called ACORN that is an absolute ill-run enterprise, and I can’t believe we would take money away from debt retirement to put it in a housing program that doesn’t work.

    Here’s the relevant part of the Dodd proposal:

        TRANSFER OF A PERCENTAGE OF PROFITS.

           1. DEPOSITS.Not less than 20 percent of any profit realized on the sale of each troubled asset purchased under this Act shall be deposited as provided in paragraph (2).
           2. USE OF DEPOSITS.Of the amount referred to in paragraph (1)
                 1. 65 percent shall be deposited into the Housing Trust Fund established under section 1338 of the Federal Housing Enterprises Regulatory Reform Act of 1992 (12 U.S.C. 4568); and
                 2. 35 percent shall be deposited into the Capital Magnet Fund established under section 1339 of that Act (12 U.S.C. 4569).

        REMAINDER DEPOSITED IN THE TREASURY.All amounts remaining after payments under paragraph (1) shall be paid into the General Fund of the Treasury for reduction of the public debt.

    Profits? We’ll be lucky not to take a bath on the purchase of these toxic assets. If we get 70 cents on the dollar, that would be a success.

    That being said, this section proves that the Democrats in Congress have learned nothing from this financial collapse.  They still want to game the market to pick winners and losers by funding programs for unqualified and marginally-qualified borrowers to buy houses they may not be able to afford — and that’s the innocent explanation for this clause.

    The real purpose of section D is to send more funds to La Raza and ACORN through housing welfare, via the slush fund of the HTF.  They want to float their political efforts on behalf of Democrats with public money, which was always the purpose behind the HTF.  They did the same thing in April in the first bailout bill, setting aside $100 million in “counseling” that went in large part to ACORN and La Raza, and at least in the former case, providing taxpayer funding for a group facing criminal charges in more than a dozen states for fraud.

    It’s bad enough that taxpayers have to pay the price for Congress’ decade-long distortions of the lending and investment markets.  If we realize a profit from the bailout, that money should go to pay down the debt or get returned to taxpayers as dividends from their investment — not to organizations committing voter fraud, and not to restarting the entire cycle of government meddling in lending markets.  I’d support a rational bailout package, but anything that funds the HTF needs to get stopped.

    Update II:  The Wall Street Journal reported on the HTF/ACORN/Democratic connections in July:

        The housing bill signed Wednesday by President George W. Bush will provide a stream of billions of dollars for distressed homeowners and communities and the nonprofit groups that serve them.

        One of the biggest likely beneficiaries, despite Republican objections: Acorn, a housing advocacy group that also helps lead ambitious voter-registration efforts benefiting Democrats. …

        Partly because of the role of Acorn and other housing advocacy groups, the White House and its allies in Congress resisted Democrats’ plans to include money for a new affordable-housing trust fund and $4 billion in grants to restore housing in devastated neighborhoods. In the end, the money stayed in the bill; the White House saw little choice.

        What most riles Republicans about the bill is the symbiotic relationship between the Democratic Party and the housing advocacy groups, of which Acorn is among the biggest. Groups such as the National Council of La Raza and the National Urban League also lobby to secure government-funded services for their members and seek to move them to the voting booth. Acorn has been singled out for criticism because of its reach, its endorsements of Democrats, and past flaws in its bookkeeping and voter-registration efforts that its detractors in Congress have seized upon.

    Once again, the Democrats want to set up a self-funding mechanism, this time by exploiting a severe financial crisis.  Despicable.

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited October 2008

    Susie, did you notice how the dems were coming out and saying that it was all a done deal before McCain even showed up? They were just trying to make him look useless, by spinning it to look like he would have no effect if he came. Now they are trying to spin it again that he came and they did not get any farther along. The truth is, by coming in, he put the brakes on the whole thing so that people could sit down and amend it to make it more pallitable to the people, who were furious that it was going to put all that money up for grabs. The dems were just trying to make McCain look bad, not like the hero, which I think he will end up looking like. He actually changed the way things were going, not sitting around waiting for the phone to ring like Obama. He forced their hand, and they are spitting mad. All they have left is to spin it to get some of the egg off their face. If they really had a deal, why didn't they just all vote for it? They have the majority, and can do what they want. But no, that would mean, that only THEY could be blamed. They wanted to make sure the republicans were in on it so they could say, look it was Bush's deal and the republicans wanted it so we just went along. The dems are the ones who made this all political, while McCain did what he said he would do, "Put the country first".

    I can't wait for the debate. At least we do not have to worry that McCain did not have time to prepare his answers. He knows them all already. He will be concise and exacting and Obama will ramble around and with some flowery rhetoric and put everyone to sleep.

    Now back to our cooking lessons:

    I guess even generations after leaving Italy, we still keep the same traditions. My family always laughs at that stupid Olive Garden commercial. None of us would be caught dead eating at Olive Garden. The only thing worse than eating at an Italian resturant is eating at a pseudo italian restraurant. Yeah we will go out for pizza occasionally, but we never order the pasta, because no matter how good they say they make it, we can make it better at home. Besides, I want to eat something different when I go out. If we end up there because we are meeting my husband's family or friends, I just get the fish and a salad. Even the bad ones usually do a descent fish.

    As for the eggplant:  I love eggplant!! But my DH will not touch it so I do not cook it much, unless I am having family who will share it with me, so I just stick to the squash. It took me a while to get him to even eat that, but now he likes it. He grew up on Irish food. Need I say more?. LOL

    I no longer fry the eggplant because I have become such a health fanatic since bc. But you can salt it to soften it, let it sit a while and rinse off the salt and microwave it a little before assembling. But roasted eggplant is the best. Try it on the grill, open faced (cut in half) brushed with olive oil.

    Anneshirley, since BC I now use just a little pasta and a whole bowl of my homemade "gravy". Then I get all the antioxidants from the tomatoes, but not all the gluten and carbs from the pasta. I tried that whole wheat stuff,but it was awful. There is a limit to what I will deprive myself of.

    As for the meatballs; It is funny you should ask that badboob, because the earliest memory I ever had was standing on a chair by the stove with my grandmother, watching her brown the meatballs. I could not have been more than 3. I can still remember how great they tasted. I have never been able to make them taste as good as she did. Like all Italians, she cooked in the basement kitchen. I have never understood why the upstairs kitchen was never used. It was always in the basement. And we ate there too? Do your friends in Italy do this, anneshirley or is this something about crazy Italian Americans?

    This is the way I was taught to make meatballs, but don't ask me for exact measures. I just toss stuff in til the texture seems right.

    In large bowl, mix equal amounts ground pork and veal. Remember, NO HAMBURGER. Although on my new diet I have added ground chicken to make it a little healthier. I also do not eat much veal, because I have a problem eating baby animals.  Add minced onion and garlic(several cloves at least, you can never have too much garlic). 1 egg for binding, and some Italian bread crumbs (I have used those new york bagel chips lately and they are really tasty), italian spices (don't be skimpy, spice it up), and a bit of my homemade gravy (that's sauce remember). Mix it all well with your hands. Make little balls and saute them in olive oil. Then add them to the pot of gravy and simmer for about 45 min.

    Don't ask me for my gravy recipe!! That one will take all day! But you all have an open invitation for a free cooking lesson here. I will even do homemade pasta. Now that is the best lasagne, so light it melts in your mouth. Maybe we can gather for a  McCain victory party!!!!

    By the way, I just canned 12 quarts of tomatoes from my garden this week, so I am all set!

    Hope you're all  hungry now!

  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited September 2008

    Lindam

    Thanks for asking about Cam, my wife.  We are in Houston, chemo stopped or postponed because heart getting eatten up by it.  I am in her room at Heart Hospital waiting for a Heart Cath to be done.  Surgeon that was to do MRM, now wants to skip that due to low LVEF and just do radiation.  Since she has Stage IV IBC and been doing various forms of chemo for the last 8 1/2 months this is scary. So our three day trip turns in to at least a week.  I do hate cancer,  seems like the only way to know if a treatment is working, is if the treatment tries to kill you.  

    Since she loves politics as much as I do, she is most unset about only getting CNN on Hotel TV.  The rest she deals with.

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited September 2008

    Linda you have an issue with eating baby animals?.............you are no Republican...............we Republicans only eat baby animals.........you do know we are the heartless, mean, cruel, hate the earth party right?...........are you sure your not Democrat?........ha..............Shokk

  • anneshirley
    anneshirley Member Posts: 1,110
    edited September 2008

    Linda--I did notice that families tend to have a room where they congregate (cook and eat) and then a room that's more for looks.  In other words, they don't multitask.  LOL.  Since returning from Italy, we almost always make our own pizza, Umbrian style, which means that we don't put sauce on top but cut whole tomatoes and spread them on the dough--usually plum tomatoes, and whatever else we're using.  My husband likes fresh basil and oregano, and good sausage, which I take out of the casings, prepare, and then sprinkle on top--and, of course, some type of cheese or cheeses.  I make my own dough in a bread machine and use a piazza stone at the bottom of the oven. In Umbria, most piazza is made in wood-burning stoves, but there's not much I can do about that. I can't stand the piazza we get here, although we have some excellent restaurants in the City for good pasta.  Oh, how I wish I were back there right now.  Our favorite restaurant served the most wonderful lamb cooked in a wood fire!

  • Daffodil
    Daffodil Member Posts: 829
    edited October 2008

    {{{burp}}

    Please pass the tiramisu; I need another helping..................

    Love,

    An Italian Chef wannabe

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