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  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited September 2008

    Hey!!!  And YAY Eddie and Jen!!!  Why did I so picture you in a boa, Jen?!  Can't wait to see yours, Eddie!

    So here's my story...

    I did not have treatment today.  Last night I was the b*tch from hell on wheels - depressed, anxious, and mostly, in pain.  Went this afternoon to my infusion and told them about my pain, and especially the burning feet thing.  Everyone said "Neuropathy!"  And they fetched my onc.  He came out and asked me again about my symptoms and then asked (because he did not have my chart in front of him) how many txs with Taxotere I have had.  "One and at a third of the dosage."  Oh.  Thinking, thinking, thinking.  He asks me how many nodes were positive.  "None." More thinking, thinking, thinking.  Then he says "I can't give you any more Taxotere without the neuropathy getting worse."  Bottom line is - the reaction I was having (or so I gathered) was quite unusual for the dose I got and they were worried my neuropathy would become irreversible at some point. 

    So no more Taxotere for me!  I am having 2 more rounds of tx with my "old" friends, Carboplatin and Cytoxan.  Most of me is really glad (because I was really hating this), but there is a tiny bit that is concerned about making the right decision (Roxi, I hear you on tough decisions) and forgoing the Tax as it is one of the better txs for triple neg.  Sigh.  I am going to keep telling myself that six rounds of 2 meds is okay and better than a lifetime of neuropathy.  And I still have to do rads.  That was always in my future.  Now my last chemo will be October 2!!  Yee haw!!!!

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited September 2008

    Wow Cris, that is a better answer, but likely confusing for you.Glad you'll be swimming soon though!

    Gracie- I am Canadian, I got me lots of mad skills in the ice and snow, I'll get ya across. (watch me perpetuate the myth of Canada being cold all the time ;p) Glad you are home after your long day.

     Here is a pic of me at Transition 1 at the Tri on Sunday. I hope it works.

    Night y'all! 

     

  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited September 2008

    Women,

    I am a complete tech dweeb...I can't load my fabulous photos....all I can say is that I've been trying for an hour . . .even with Jen's help.

    So all I can do is send you to photobucket. The good news is you'll see some funny photos. As an explanation, I wanted to do amanzon warrior princess because I thought they cut off one breast. Unfortunately, I was wrong. As a last minute change, I switched to Neanderthal pole dance...look carefully as one is actuall half topless. I would have picked the first one which I title looks like I am naked, but I am not. Sorry to do this this way, but it is after my bedtime. Thanks for the swim. Neulasta shot tomorrow. Long and interesting day. Will fill you in tomorrow I promise. Congrats to all and thinking of all of you. Cris, wild day for you. Glad last chemo is 10/2,.  Things happen for a reason. Have faith and believe in fate as well as your onc. Okay, here is the website. Hope this works. If not, Jen, I give you full permission to post and btw, I LOVED your pole dance photo. It rocks.  

    http://s395.photobucket.com/albums/pp33/ewesterman/?special_track=nav_album_album 

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited September 2008

    ok Eddie, I am still up so I saw them and you are smokin'!! 

     Jen, you have permission, get that pic up!!!!!!! 

     Glad you two are on this side of the river.

    Glad everyone is here! 

     xoN

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited September 2008

    Eddie - You are so right.  They are FABULOUS photos!!!!  Oh, I hope everyone gets to see those! 

    How am I going to follow the two you hotshots?!?!  It will be close to Halloweeen...hmmm...

    The one sucky part is that I will be going in for #5 next Thursday, which is 2 days before my little dd's 5th birthday.  We have been planning this for several weeks and she is so excited.  I hope I can find enough energy to get through it.  My choices were not good - it was either that weekend or the one I have planned to go see the gymnastics team with big dd.  So when I got to the car, I called the mom of her best friend and said "Help - I'm having chemo and I won't be able to get up!"  She was great, so I think it will work out.  And I have dh and grandma, too.

  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited September 2008

    I have tried and tried. I posted more tame ones (but you three have seen) on the blog, but saved the wild ones for you. Jen, you have my permission to post any on this sight...or any of the rest of you who know how. I hate technology. Thanks for the comments. I have to be up in six hours to wake up my kids so I give up and go to sleep as of now. Sleep well. Cris, by October, we will think of many good themes for your pole dance I am sure. Hope I can get them up here or one of you can help. Sorry to be such a tech nerd.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited September 2008

    Oh, my . . . a neanderthal in sexy heels!  I love it!!  I think my favorite is the one labeled "awkward," where you're giving the camera a smoldering look while stroking the leopard skin seductively.  Yow!

    Cris, I think it's good your oncologist is taking your side effects seriously (though I know that any change of plans is hard to deal with, because all of our coping gets focused on one set of expectations, and we get thrown for a loop when we're forced to work with a different one).  And just two more treatments!!

    Linda

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited September 2008

    To all,

    Thanks for your concern. Sable absolutely love the pic. Thanks for bringing a smile to my face this morning. Off to work.

    Enjoy the day, Karin

    P.S. - I'm fighting really hard to follow my signature.

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited September 2008

    Eddie - You look FABULOUS!!! Love, Love, Love your photos!  Congrats on being done with CHEMOOOOOO!

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited September 2008

    UMMA GAWAH HOTCHEE MAMA -- that is Neandrathal for "Bravo! Smoking inDEED!!!!" Eddie, you done the May women PROUD.  

    Cris -- October 2nd? I know it is very narrowminded of me, but I like that date a helluva lot better than the one in 2011 or whenever it was that you were given before.But what matters, of course, is how you feel about things, preferably feelings that don't involve pain.  (I'm doing okay, but my feet are still buzzy and swollen in the evenings, esp when I forego the crocs for more than an hour or two.)

    Noelle -- You, babe, are an ATHLETE and therefore an object of my envy.  A few months ago, I thought I had some muscle tone in my upper harms but it turned out to be a smudge of dirt.   Still, I bike and walk on . . .

    Karin -- maybe you could change your signature for a couple days. Give yourself a break. How about

    "Get through the day! Karin" or

    "Try not to hurt anyone! Karin"

    "Breathe.  Karin"

    Outside my university there was to be a sign posted that instructed visitors to "Cheerfully present your ID to the security guard." I was teaching an 8:30 am class and lobbied to have the sign reworded to say "Please present...."  Expecting me to be cheerful that early in the morning was a bit much to ask, I thought.

    Jen -- I need to send you a photo. Sorry I keep forgetting this!

    To everyone: Chemoooooooooooooooooooooooooo and After chemooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited September 2008

    Eddie~ I will work on getting your pics posted in a bit... I'm out the door for my last nuelasta shot right now wooohooo!

    Rock~ I have your pole dancing pics... do you want me to use a different one?

    Karin~ hang in there babe, we are with you!

    More in a bit... I have to run and whine over a needle.

  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited September 2008

    Jen.

    I get my last neualsta at 11. Thanks...for the help with the photo..just the naked looking one would be good. :)  For the rest of you who took the trouble to go to the photobucket site, thanks. Cris, everything changes. Remember, we are all "over treated" so cutting back will still beat cancer's butt.  Linda, the heels just had to be part of it...barefoot looked even more strange. Jean, prayers for Ruby still coming. I gave ALL my meds back to the doc yesterday and now I am thinking I may have been a tiny bit premature. Did have my buzzing right foot on ice cold frozen peas last night ...he;ped with the buzzing.  Not enough sleep. Later, women, later. 

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited September 2008

    Eddie, you're nekkid in those pics!!!  Fabulous photos.  Maybe I can sneak back into my chemo ward with a camera, and have my dh take a quick shot of me holding a pole.... Nah.  Don't want to go back to that place if I don't have to.

    Cris, that's tough about having to skip Taxotere.  Well, maybe not so tough.  Carboplatin is a pretty mean drug, and your BC was pretty small (with no involved nodes).  You'll be fine with just 2 more CC's (in otter's opinion).  Your onco was doing exactly the right thing--listening to your concerns, thinking about all the possibilities, and giving you a well-reasoned alternative to more sore feet.  It doesn't matter whether those hurting feet were HFS or neuropathy--either one gets worse and worse with each tx, if it can't be subdued in time.

    I did get a tiny bit of neuropathy in the big toe on my left foot, of all places...  I noticed it tingling after my last TC tx.  It wasn't totally numb--just a little "asleep"-feeling, from the distal joint out to the tip.  This persisted until about 2 months post-chemo, when all of a sudden it started to hurt.  Not bad, but like I'd stubbed it, or my nail hurt, or something.  That went on for a couple of weeks but it's finally gone and my toe is fine.  If the neuropathy is severe, I've heard it can be permanent; onco's take it seriously.

    Karin, I agree with rock:  "Get through the day!  Karin"; or "One day at a time!  Karin".  No need to put on a cheerful face for us, when you're feeling glum.  I don't take happy pills.  What you see, is what you get, so deal with it.  Seriously, I'm pretty cheerful now; but as I said earlier, I had some very bad, weepy days in there.  Let us know if there is anything we can do to help, or if you need to talk about it.

    Rock, that's a joke, right?:  "Cheerfully present your ID to the security guard."   I taught an 8:00 a.m. class for the first 10 years I was on the faculty.  I tried to be cheerful in the classroom, mostly to wake everyone else up; but I'm afraid I would have been tempted to put a large, red "X" over the "Cheerfully" on a sign like that.

    Dang it.  My big toe is feeling sore again.  The neuropathy isn't gone, yet--but it is better.  I do want to file a complaint about the slooooooooow re-growth of my hair, though.  Please don't tell me it's growing slowly (or not growing at all) because of my super-low estrogen levels (on Arimidex).

    Our local weather guys are sure worried about ol' Hurricane Ike...

    otter (getting ready to board up the extra holes in the otter den)

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited September 2008

    I had my Herceptin today - it took 2 nurses 4 sticks to get an IV going- I was about to cry but I hung on to my sanity. HOWEVER, I got the nurse I dont care for- she knows her stuff but she is so Loud it just drives me crazy. At the end she said "I wonder why the pharmacy didnt give you a good patient sticker" I replied- because they probably know I dont want one. So she says "I want you to have one so I am getting you one anyway" and stuck a SPONGEBOB sticker on my shirt.This is the same nurse who put Batman stickers on me months ago that I griped about!!!!!!!

    Mary, I am also gray area on rads and it has been recommended. I had one positive node and it was an intramammary node- the sentinel node was negative. I am also 47, grade 3 very small tumor and Her2 + -- I got kind of the same logic you did- very very aggressive cancer, young age so they want to do 28 rads to 4 areas and 5 additional to the surgery site. It is a really tough decision but right now I am leaning towards moving ahead with the rads. Keep us posted on what you decide!

    Kristy

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited September 2008

    Kristy -- Oh no she didn't.  Tell me she did not do that.  Oh dear. To survive FOUR sticks and then get a spongebob sticker put on my shirt?  Perchance are you typing this from a jail where you are being held on charges of assault?

    Otter -- Alas, tis true!

    Eddie & Co:  Now where else on this website would you find someone saying "Thanks for the help with the photo.  Just the naked looking one would be good."  I swear, if we had a coat of arms, I would nominate this to be translated into latin and included on it. (Jen -- any photo you use of me is fine.)

    Linda, everyone: I could almost live with the baldness. But the absence of eyebrows and eyelashes is a real bore.  Especially when combined with hot flashes that tend to sweat off my carefully applied eyebrow. Rocking the bald is one thing. Rocking the no-eyebrow look is another.

    Karin, I'd be honored if you felt like this was a place where you could just be however you felt like being.  I'm not prone to certain things because they are just tooooooo cheesy but

    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Karin)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))  

    (I used to think (((( )))) meant that a person was falling down a hole rather than getting a hug!)

    ~(_8^(|)    ---- here is Homer Simpson for you.

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited September 2008

    "Get through the day! Karin"," Try not to hurt anyone! Karin", "Breathe. Karin", "One day at a time!  Karin". Thanks for the suggestions but I think I'll keep the Enjoy as it is a reminder to look for the good and enjoy something throughout the day. Nobody said it would be easy.

    Eddie - Loved the pictures. I want to redo mine with props. Who knew when I did it that it would become a tradition?

    When I saw the onco Friday a week ago I told him about my mood. He was going to give me Zanax or Zoloft. I told him school would be starting and that I didn't think I'd need anything. Don't want to put yet more drugs in my system. Plus I really don't look at this as depression. I have been there before. Couldn't get out of bed in the morning, no ambition and only wanted to sleep. This time it is more an anxiety thing. Worrying about everything (not the BC though). Personal life has many new twists in it. Don't want to talk about it because don't want my mouth to bring things into existence (if you understand that.) When I first started Chemo Onco had given me low dose Ativan. I never had to use it except for the second attempt at my rads simulation. Well since it is used for anxiety I decided to take one today. Will stay on it round the clock this weekend and see if it helps.

    Now for the bad news. Remember I had quit smoking 5 months ago. I didn't want to be smoking during rads and now is when I picked it back up. That might be part of my anxiety right now. Beating myself up about it and really wanting to stop. I've had 11 treatments and 11 days of smoking. For those that pray please pray that I can let go and let God. I know it was Him that took them from me before. Cold turkey with no withdrawal symptoms, that wasn't me.

    Thanks for the hug and (((((((((((((((((((((ALL)))))))))))))))))))))

    Enjoy the day, Karin

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited September 2008

    Karin- I smoked ( mostly cigs,but worse too) for 15 years. I got your back on this one.

    Don't pull back too fast, that'll just make things worse. If you want to PM about it, lemme know. 

    Shout out to Otter on the big toe thing. 

     Eyebrows, I told y'all I have stubble there now... but today I have eyebrow fringe too! 

    Rock, you're not the only one with a surrey......

    Where is my Siouxie? I have not seen her in the last day or two. 

    xoN

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited September 2008

    (((((((Karin)))))))))

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited September 2008

    Onc called and gave me the news...I am now considered post-menopausal thanks to the chemo tx.  So no Tamoxifen & Zoladex shots.  He will put me on either Femera or Arimidex..I'll know next week when he calls in my script.  He's also ordering a bone scan to get a baseline on my bone density.

    Just let me say....good riddance Aunt Flo!  You will not be missed.  I never liked you anyway! Tongue out

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited September 2008

    Sue,

    After 2 treatments can't believe your red already. Did you use anything?

    My Onco gave me Medline Remedy Skin Repair Creme. Told me to put on after each treatment and again at night. 11 down and so far so good. Ask your Onco if they have it. You can buy it here. 

     http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=303137&id=prod1648206

     Cheapest price and it's a 32 ounce.

    Edited because link did not work. You have to copy and paste into your browser.

    Enjoy the day, Karin

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited September 2008

    Ok Eddie I got ya covered doll!

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited September 2008

    Sue,

    After thought. What type of bra are you wearing? You don't want anything that you can move around in and cause friction. I wear both of these and once on stay put and no riding or aggravation.

    Fruit of the Loom - Women's Spaghetti-Strap Sports Bras, 3 Pack

    Fruit of the Loom - Women's Spaghetti-Strap Sports Bras, 3 Pack

    Fruit of the Loom - 3-Pack Tank-Style Sport Bras

    Fruit of the Loom - 3-Pack Tank-Style Sport Bras, Style 9012

    Right now I worry more about how they feel, comfort rather then how they make me look.

    Enjoy the day, Karin

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited September 2008

    Ok now for my day... whew!

    Got my neulasta shot at 11am this morning and from there it has been nonstop. Went to kmart from there cause I found an actually comfy high support sports bra last week and went after another one..... of course they didn't have one. So went to grocery store with hubs to get stuff bought before I can't get around tomorrow.... back home... put away groceries back out the door to my nympho therapy (that's from sue's hubby lol) On the way home stop at another kmart... none there either then stop at another grocery store to pick up some pico for salads tonight. Drop off stuff then back out the door to get me a few movies for the weekend... back home. Get dinner ready, have dinner, clean up after dinner..... vaccum house, clean bathroom and fold 2 loads of laundry. Fix eddie's picks and whew here I am!.... Steroid buzz??? most definately.

    I did see another lady I talked to yesterday at the chemo clinic this morning. I passed her mom in the hallway and went back to say hi to her. I found her under a blanket crying. I guess the 3rd day was hitting her hard and she didn't feel good. She did light up when she saw me and we chatted for a few minutes. I hope I helped her out a bit. She has cancer in her chest and around her stomach and they can't operate on it. She's about my age and has a 10 yr old boy. They don't know how long she is going to be doing chemo just yet, they are trying to find anything that will shrink the tumour. I feel for her... this is a scary place to be. But we told each other we would keep an eye out when we come in so we can visit. Stupid me forgot to ask her name LOL.

    Rock~ funny you posted homer earlier.... I got a mouse in my signature done the same way LOL

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited September 2008

    Eddie,

    Your photos are so great I gotta comment again. This group is so great. Thank you ladies for sharing. You know we have a tight bond and feel comfortable among each other when we can have fun like this.

    Since I didn't have the advantage of props my mind is thinking ahead of what I will do for last rad. Got some ideas of my own but any suggestions on another tradition for those of us doing rads?

    Jen - You got her covered? You forgot to cover up her shoulder, LOL

    Can you tell I'm feeling a little better?

    Enjoy the day, Karin

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited September 2008

    ~(_8^(|)    ---- here is Homer Simpson for you

    ?????????????????????????????????????

    Never mind typing this I figured it out what you meant when I turned my head sideways.

    I figured it out by turning head the other direction to see Jen's mouse.

    Enjoy the day, Karin..............Yeah, I am!

  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited September 2008

    Noelle, Siouxsie is here!  (I love it when you call me that.)  I''ve been working, and it's really hard for me to post during the week--but I do read, and post occasionally, and try really hard to catch up on the weekends.  I couldn't have come this far without the support of the beautiful, loving women here.

    Karin, nope, not bras.  Don't wear them anymore.  I wear camisoles, without the shelf bra, thank you very much, as any band irritates me and seems to bring on the "heavy" feeling I get before lymphedema.  I wear camisoles which are not loose, and on days when I want to look like I have two boobs, I pin the puffy foob inside the camisole.  This also eliminates the problem when wearing a mast bra of the fake one being higher that the real one.  I can just look where the real one is, and pin the fake one right beside it.  It works well for me. (I am between a B and a C cup).  I hope you continue in your efforts to enjoy the day.  I think you know you can be as sad or depressed or self-pitying here as you need or want to be, but I am like you--I try to find the good in things, if I can. Not saying I am able to be positive 100% of the time (that would be really annoying), but I think a good outlook in general makes us happier. Somethng along the lines of pain is unavoidable, but misery is optional. The smoking thing--what a hairy, horrible monster!  I quit New Year's Eve 1999, but that was after six failed attempts through the years.  And you mentioned prayer, so i will tell you this story--I was sitting in church, during a pastoral prayer, and feeling really remorseful about starting smoking yet another time, and it was almost like I heard God's voice, saying, "What, you don't think I can forgive that, too?  Shut up and listen to the prayer!!"

    Otter--so good to "see" you again!  Do you know of anything that will help someone's sensitive skin who has had three treatments and is already feeling and looking sunburned?  I am using steroid cream after treatment and at bedtime, and 100% aloe vera gel in the afternoons when I get home from work.  It was scary today when the technician said "That's very interesting, we seldom see this degree of redness so early in treatment."

    Jean, prayers for you and your Mom.

    Sable--woohooo last neulasta!  CHEMOOOOOOO!

    Eddie----last chemo!  CHEMOOOOOOO!  I saved you for last because I wanted to end on this note--YOU ARE A WILD WOMAN!  What great pictures, and how beautiful, especially the nekkid one!

    Love you all,

    Sue 

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited September 2008

    About those sports bras (maybe I should post this on rock's humor thread....):

    I went on yet another sports bra-buying expedition 2 days ago, at a brand-new "Academy" sporting goods store.  By my best estimate, I've tried on approximately 3,781 sports bras since this BC thing began and I had surgery in Feb. '08, mostly without success.

    Let's just say I'm "between sizes"--anything I can actually get over my head and shoulders ends up flopping around like a loose innertube, way too big to wear.  I'm not expecting sports bra-type support--just something that will hold still on my chest (and hopefully stay in place over my right boob).

    The most hilarious part of this is when I manage to struggle into a sports bra that ends up fitting OK, but I can't get it back off again.  I've been hunting for sports bras that hook in back (or even in front), but for the most part (with rare exceptions) they're only available in "full woman" sizes (C, D, and larger) ...and I'm an A-cup.  So, no luck with the fasteners.

    All I can find are the ones you slip over your head.  Since I'm broad-shouldered (even when skinny), it's a serious struggle to get them on ... and getting them off can be nearly impossible.  At several points during Wednesday's adventure, I nearly dislocated my shoulder; almost tore skin off my mast side; pulled out an earring; and/or was close to pressing the "call" button to ask for help from a clerk or paramedics, whichever arrived first.

    I finally found one style in an unfamilar brand that was stretchy enough (i.e., loose enough) to pull on and off without serious orthopedic injury, yet "supportive" enough to stay in place.  So I bought 3.  Don't know if I'll ever wear them, but I did get some satisfaction out of the hunt this time.

    My hunt is further complicated by the fact that I almost certainly have early LE in my left arm and possibly my chest wall, which means I can't wear thin-strapped bras, bras with underwires, or bras with tight bands.

    Whew!

    otter 

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited September 2008

    Dang on the quiet side for awhile now I feel like I have diarrhea of the mouth. Just wanted you to know I might be absent this weekend. Wind gust to 50mph tomorrow so will be at daughters house (trees lots of trees in my yard, like living in the woods) after I drop off my mother in law at the phila airport in the morning. Hope Hanna holds off so her flight takes off at 11:30am. Sunday we are going to a BBQ so unless I get a chance to stop by here in the morning I won't get a chance.

    Enjoy the weekend, Karin

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited September 2008

    Eddie,

    I love your pictures! Bras, sensitive (ha!) subject. I've got 600cc in my foob and would love to go bra less. 

    Karin, so glad you're feeling better. I smoked for 15 years too and have been a social smoker (weekends, parties, bars etc.) ever since, especially when I drink which is typically Friday nights. It's very hard to quit and I still indulge once in awhile. I try real hard not to think about it but sometimes find myself giving in to old habits. 

    Ellenoire, what's that stuff you use on your head and where do I get it? I need to encourage the folicles a bit.... 

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited September 2008

    Mary,

    I take borage oil and brewers yeast tablets from the health food store.

    I am crazy tired, and we have another festival tomorrow. Only a day one thank goodness. 

     Night everyone. 

     xoN

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