Starting Chemo May 2008
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Randie,
Don't y ou love it when your babies start to give back to you? Remember, she only has that wonderful love and thoughtfulness to give because it was given to her. You should be very proud (I can tell you are).....
Karin, you sound so enthusiastic to go back to school, it makes my heart smile to know you are out there loving and teaching the kiddies. ENJOY the germy hugs and kisses!!! You made it!!!
Noelle, congrats on finishing the race! You are my role model.
Jean, I haven't decided about reconstruction yet. I initially wanted a prophylactic mast on the other side, and think I still do. I have decided to wait until I am not taking any drugs at all before I decide, I want to know I made the decision with my true mind. What I am eventually considering is a DIEP flap--the one that uses abdominal fat with no muscle...there is a PS in San Antonio that is covered under my insurance plan. Does anybody know if insurance will cover a prophylactic mast? I know they are required to cover reconstruction with surgery on the other breast to achieve symmetry, thanks to the Women's Cancer Treatment Act of 1998 (Federal Law). I think I will call my insurance co. next week to ask.
Cris--hope you get what you want schedule-wise...sorry a delay is proposed, that's got to be frustrating, We yearn toward the day we willl finish, and to have it yanked out from under is just depressing. You are in my thoughts as you and your docs figure this out, and I hope you get what you want.
Kristy, send some of those baked goods my way!! I need to keep my abdominal fat!!!
Otter, I am betting you look beautiful, facial hair and all.....
Hope everybody has a great Labor Day!
Love you all
Sue
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randie,
I am baking for you this weekend since you are post treatment- carrot cake and marbled pound cake are in the oven and we had homemade biscuits for breakfast this morning. I even got up and went to water aerobics this morning - there is life on the other side of all the chemo so everyone still in chemo- hang on and we will keep pulling you up- you are gonna make it!!!!!!!
Kristy
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God I love carrot cake! I've been quite busy entertaining this weekend so I'm playing catch up. First and foremost.... WELCOME BACK our dear friend, we missed you!
Noelle, I can't imagine running a race yet alone finishing. You're amazing. Eddie, Jen and Chris, we'll be waiting for you.
Karin, I know what you mean, I'm excited that the kids are back to school, but it sure was a truly different summer with them this year. We spent a lot of time together and I don't want that to end. My college daughter spent the entire weekend home with me and we had a blast at our party and going shopping shortly.
Jean, yes I too am planning the trans flap but right know I am so puffy and sore under my arm that I'm freaking out if its from the expander or lymphedema. I was gonna call the doc but figured I'ld point it out at my second opinion on Thursday. The more I read about lymphedema, the more it makes me think that's what it is, but who knows anymore. I'm just scared because I don't know what it is. I'm calling tomorrow.
I took my pole dance down but will email it if you wish. I don't feel comfortable having it posted with all these unwanted readers. Creeps me out...
Wishing you all a lovely day...
Wishing you all a lovely day.
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Kristy,
YUM! I am sitting here eating my crackers and cheese and salivating for some pound cake.
Anybody else watching the news and noticing how disappointed they are that the hurricane hit everywhere but New Orleans? Now they are talking about Baton Rouge and how all the people were sent there and maybe it will hit there harder...geez, can't they go somewhere, how about Georgia and they can throw themselves in front of some Russian tanks.....along with all the site lurkers...
randie
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RanD- 'Commando Clean' really sounds quite pornographic when taken out out of context.
Made me laugh outloud!
I am off to the garden on this lovely sunny day. I am child free most of the day, just had a lovely visit from the BF... he is off to play with other friends for the rest of the day. After months of babysitting me ( I am admittedly a little jealous when he goes off to play) I know he needs some time and space to himself.
Laundry, gardening and such are todays projects. I have chosen not to mourn summer, I have the month of September to play a little hooky b4 the store gets busy. I look forward to medium temps with lots of workouts and gardening.Now that I feel almost "normal" I am excited at the quiet time.
N
p.s. aaah Rock! I have the theme from Welcome Back Kotter in my head now!!!!!! -
Karin -- My brother was born on Labor day and for the LONGEST time I thought Labor Day was a holiday honoring women in labor. Yep.
Love the poem (Sue, that was goooood!), the photos, the people running races and kids making beds and heading back to school. Love the empathy. Love the hugs. Love the hair sightings. Love the obs re: hurricane coverage (reminds me of when people would act disappointed that they DIDN'T know someone who died on 9/11).
Mary -- let us know what you learn, okay? If I were voting, I'd vote "expander" but what do I know... My fingers are crossed.
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Cris -- I am trying not to overstate my level of bummed-ness that you are delayed. It just sucks so hard, esp since I still recall the delays you had at teh beginning of this thing. You are handling it with a lot more grace and applomb than I did. In fact, I'm thinking some spleen-venting might be in order. Speaking of which, I think I have held my s**t together pretty well through this whole cancer thing. Until.... my sis and I were on the last 200 miles or so of our road trip and I just went OFF. I didn't realize how angry I am at my PCP and my OB/GYN for never ONCE mentioning BRCA testing, never ONCE asking about other maternal relatives who might have had ovarian cancer (i.e., my aunt), never ONCE saying that BC would be harder to detect in my breasts, never ONCE (as near as I can tell) pushing to get my mamm moved up when I found the lump. The first time they ever mentioned BRCA (I thought it was something only Jewish women were at risk of having) was AFTER I got cancer. Anyway, perhaps barrelling down an interstate at 80 mph in holiday traffic was not the best time to realize how angry I was but there you have it.
All by way of saying, we don't have to be mature and composed ALL of the time.
PS Noelle, I want a boyfriend again. I won't lie. I do.
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www.betterbidding.com is a website that can give you an idea which hotels you might get when you book through hotwire or priceline. (I missed the original post but what the hey.)
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Hi lovely women,
Just got back from a four-mile walk with my cousin, Alice. Cleaned Max's and Adam's mudroom (we have a mudroom) lockers with them...found wallets, a digital camera, tic tacs, gum -- all sorts of convenient things a guy might need for school. Both lockers look good now -- kind of makes dh and mine look a little shabby so maybe I'll clean mine too. Off to purchase last-minute school supplies and maybe welcome back to school gifts....other than that, life is good. Hair continues to come in. I am thrilled our friend Rock is back. I am proud of Noelle and like hearing that people are moving on to next stages as we consider foobs, recon, radiation, etc. It has been very chilly here in Seattle so autumn feels here, but methinks it'll get warmer before it gets colder. Am considering how to handle my mom's upcoming two week visit. More on that later. Have a wonderful day with few se and new discoveries to each of us.
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Good evening ladies,
I hope everyone had a nice holiday weekend. We are so glad Rock is back! I don't post much, but do hang out here every day.
I need some advice. I had my last chemo tx 5 weeks ago so my hair is starting to come in, but it is still in an awkward stage. I need to go to a visitation this week and all I've worn have been ball caps and bandanas. I have a wig, but never wore it. It wasn't me in the beginning and it still isn't me now. I think I would feel foolish wearing it. Does anyone have any suggestions on such short notice? I don't wear anything around the house and I even went bald-bald for a rummage sale we had Saturday - but I didn't know anyone who was there and it was too hot for a hat.
Thanks for your help. I know someone will have some good ideas.
Take care,
Julie
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How about a square scarf or piece of fabric (solid color or in a pattern) that you wear like a bandanna (but that isn't a bandanna)? You should be able to pick one up at any number of stores. Solids, or textures, or small prints seem to work better than larger prints.
Also, you can tie it in such a way that it fits close to your head which sometimes works better. Or just wear your bandanna! And maybe wear a little lip gloss.
Honest to god, though, I swear the key is to put whatever it is you're going to wear on and try not to think about it. Cuz you're gonna look fiiiiiiine.
(It's good to be back, Julie!)
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Julie, if you are not comfy going "commando" then why not a black silk scarf or in a colour to go with your outfit? I assume by visitation you mean funeral home visitation?
Hey Rock, it just occured to me. Are we the only two unmarried chix on the May boards?
I am too brain dead to recall.
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OMG! I have baby bird fuzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *dances around like an idiot all excited*
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We have been busier...we are energized! (Luuuuuuccy, I'm hoooooomme!! That's what I have in my head, Noelle.)
And back to Noelle - Yes, I'm on Neupogen for WBC's (in fact, was up and out by 9:15 this lovely morning for my shot) but the problem is/was it didn't seem to work as well, or I didn't respond as well the after the last round of Carbo/Cytoxan. Usually, after 7 days of shots and 3 weeks to the next chemo, my numbers have come up into the normal range (low normal, but normal nonetheless). And this time they didn't. So I think my onc was fearful of wiping out my entire immune system with the first tx of Taxotere last week, if he gave me the full strength. Which is why I was thinking we will be monitoring it very closely and if the numbers stabilize, maybe I can finish the last two treatments on time. Because I'm really not sure I can do weekly for 12 weeks.
Karin - We are all glad for school here, too!! Relish your germy hugs!!!
Randie - "Commando Clean"? hehehe. And your story about your 12 y.o. dd made me tear up. That is very sweet. It really got to me, especially because I'm not quite feeling the love here. I got into it with the 9 y.o., who refused to help me carry more than one bag of groceries in this morning. Actually, she didn't refuse, she just didn't come back to help when I asked her to. I was really quite pissed, but I don't think it's entirely for her. I'll get back to that. However, I did tell her that it was not asking too much of her to help a bit more, or at least not complain or be difficult when she's asked to help. Sheesh.
Rock - Sometimes I need others to be pissed off for me. But apparently it's there, because I was quite the queen this morning. I haven't had a meltdown for awhile, but one's coming. Something's gonna give, because the plate's getting full again. Can I just say that yes, even though the se's are better, that it is weekly chemo and if one more person says, well that's not so bad then, I may have to hit them with my shovel!! (Sue - permission, please?!) See? Meltdown.
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I'm really o.k., just hits me at different times...
So here's our updated schedule:
Wednesday - is now occupied by Noelle (Her)
Thursday - Eddie (LAST ONE!!); Jen (ALL DONE!!); Me (1/3 Tax #2)
Friday - Kristy (Her, last weekly)
Gracie - where/how are you and when are you up again?
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Hi, all - and Rock, it's so good to have you posting again. Cris, I'm hoping your WBC counts hold up to the Taxotere and you're able to stick with the original treatment plan. (If it gets to be too rough, is switching to Taxol an option? My understanding is that Taxol is somewhat easier on the blood counts . . . and that, if you do have to switch to weeklyx12 - which would of course suck big time - Taxol may be more effective than Taxotere.)
I've been off this board over the weekend, and while it may have been a little quieter than usual around here, there was still an awful lot of catching up to do. So apologies if I slight anyone. Jen, I know you've been using your current avatar for a while now, but I don't think I've mentioned how much I like it. Everytime I see it, I smile. Karin, I'm loving the pig pix. Randie, fig preserves . . . yum. Figs for me are like raspberries for Kristy Ann: we can't grow them around here, so I crave them all the more. (Actually, it's not true that we can't grow them . . . a few people manage to, but it's a lot of trouble, and they always hoard their harvest.)
(Pause here to wipe the sweat from a killer hot flash.)
Noelle, congrats on your tri! I'm doing a 5k race next Saturday . . . not as a serious competitor, but to get back out there (and see how much slower I've become). I miss racing.
I'm winding down a wonderful, extended (took Friday off) Labor Day weekend in NYC with my boyfriend. Highlights included a free, outdoor production of Hamlet with the Cloisters as the backdrop; great Chinese food in Queens; and brunch with friends on bf's building's roof deck. It's going to be really hard to go back to work tomorrow. I love my job, but I'm starting to realize just how much chemo took out of me, and how much, now that it's over, I want to relax and think and take stock and (might as well be honest) be lazy.
Linda
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Julie,
Go with a scarf...that's my advice. It'll look nicer. I don't do the wig thing and am a big baseball cap girl and, you're right, it'll look weird for a visitation. I have worn scarves a few times....they work.
Cris, you are allowed all meltdowns. I've had a few doozies...sometimes they are necessary plus you are irked about the change in schedule and you maybe have yet to grieve and/or work through that though I am hoping, like you, that the schedule will be changed back....
Jenn.......woo hoo on the hair. Yahoo and can't wait to see it fully IN again (four months? don't know how long it takes). We'll be growing together.
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I agree with the scarf. I wore one shopping all day and wished I did it all along rather than that damn hot wig. I must admit though that I have a rather funky tan line from my hair that is quite funny.
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Thanks for everyone's help. I was able to find a long black and white scarf on sale at Wal-Mart (even better). I have a few days to figure out how to wear it and it will only be for a few hours. Even bought a Halloween bandana. The visitation is for a friend's step father who lives locally. The friend lives out of town and hasn't seen me since my hair has been gone.
Cris, I totally understand about help or lack of from the kids. My 9 year old will do what I ask her to, but then she never comes back so I keep calling her back for stuff and we both get frustrated. Meltdowns are allowed and encouraged.
Good luck to this week's chemo crew. I start off with rad tx #8 tomorrow - same as MsKarin.
Talk to you later,
Julie
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Ah, the obliviousness of a 9 year old. I was a rotten 10 year old when Mom had cancer. To cite but one example (which I probably already told you guys about)
At some point Mom was in the hospital for an extended stay. It was early May. I know this because my older sister (who was 16) was trying to fry a chicken and bake a birthday cake for my Dad. I remember her getting out the Betty Crocker red & white checked cookbook to figure out how to cut up the chicken. I was supervising by saying things like "It doesn't look like that when Mom does it" and "Yuk, why are you touching it so much?". Finally, my sister snapped, grabbed the leg of the kitchen (which was still attached) and threw the mutilated chicken across the room. It hit the wall over the kitchen table and kind of slid down. There was a long horrible silence. And because it was the only meat that was thawed . . . well, the chicken was rinsed, cut up and fried.
Every single thing my sister asked me to do, I'm pretty sure I responded with "You're not Mom! You can't make me!" She was 16 and trying to look after us four younger ones (though at points my baby brother and either me or my little sister stayed with relatives). And I was as indifferent and self-centered as only a clueless 10 year old can be. (My Dad visited us at various intervals but he stayed in a rooming house near the hospital which was a couple hours away. I didn't feel abandoned. Both Mom and Dad wanted to be both places at once.)
Kids that age -- who knows how much they grasp, retain, care on a given day. But my heart is aching for you and for pretty much every mom with a young kid. Sure, I feel for what Mom went through NOW, but then? It never registered that cancer might kill her. I don't even remember thinking of her as being sick. Because she was Mom. The Mom who could make/fix/solve/find anything. Mind you, my mom is not a martyr! And she was fully capable of blowing up at us! Lemme see, there was the "Common Decency" lecture and the "I am not your maid" not to mention a whole series of "shorts" that were prefaced by "Listen here, Suzie Q..." or "If you think I'm going to sit here and [x], then you've got another think coming..."
My point, and I did have one, somewhere . . .
1. Kids are often oblivious.
2. They are also incredibly resilient. (So blow up more.)
3. You are the most important person. Because if you are okay and getting what you need, everybody else will be okay, too. I have yet to see a home where that wasn't the case.
Cris, of course you're okay. You, me, all of us are -- despite our varying degrees of baby cockatiel appearance -- frigging Poster Women for How to Cope with Cancer! But personally, I think I need(ed) to go to a "I don't want to deal with this sh*t anymore" place. I didn't buy a home there or even a time share, but I think I need(ed) to go there.
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Cris~ meltdowns happen... trust me if I didn't have one every so often there would be killings here.
Linda~ thanks for the comment about the av. I did that one nite at about midnite/1am... I was in a "mood" so to speak. I sent it to my mom just goofing off. I guess she laughed so hard she had to call in my dad and show him. For him to laugh at this situation is a big deal, I guess he went into giggle fits over it and keeps bringing it up when I call them. You have to find your humor anywhere you can find it. And that pic really tells exactly what kind of person I am in real life....... slightly off center LOL.
I keep going in and staring at my baby bird hair. I can't believe it's finally starting to come in. I'm so excited I can't stand it. Now to start staring up my nose looking for hair there next!
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Sable - I too get a chuckle every time I see your avatar. I also am loving my baby bird hair. Each day its a bit more than the day before. I have some weird wayward strands that appear each day...and I just love them!
I hope to look like this any day soon!

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAArgh!
I just had a friend tell me my last chemo was not all about me. She invited her dh and I told her I wasn't intersted in him coming as my own dh and my cancer bully friend, Dottie, was coming and I thought that would be plenty, thank you very much. I fear she already invited her hubby and when I told her I didn't want others coming, she said, "You know, this isn't just about you." At which point I just fell into a puddle of tears and replied that, in fact, the 8th chemo was about me and to please respect my wishes....but I was blubbering so hard I had to hand the phone away. Give me a flipping break.
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I have a very very strange looking shadow of eyebrows. Kinda looks like dirt smudges in perfect eyebrow shapes.
Linda, your race will be awesome, not matter what. It kinda took me to that place similar to what Rock just mentioned...The cool thing is... that aside from my finger and toenails being sucky I feel pretty good.
Night everyone, I cannot think of anything to say( is that strange? I think so)
Chemooo and all that.
N
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Jesus Eddie!!! Where the hell is my shovel? Girls! we have some heads to whack!
I really pray that someday your friend will either get it, or that you have the strength to make her get it or tell her where to shove it. Today is not that day!!!!!!!
Sorry you had to deal with that!!!!!
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ok, so clearly I found something to say!
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Eddie~ send that "friend" of yours my way.. I want to smack the shit out of her. How dare she say that it wasn't about you! Gee does she want to get stabbed with a needle and have toxins poured into her body for several hours? That just ticks me off to no end.
Adrienne~ that looks just like me.... nose and all ROFL!
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Ooooo, Eddie, now it's my turn to be mad for someone else!! Lemme at her! Lemme at her - I still have my shovel out!! How dare she!! If this is not about YOU, then who the hell IS it about?!?! Not her dh, let him get his own damn chemo! And then she can go with him! (Mind you, I am not wishing this on anyone...)
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And thanks, everyone, for the meltdown support. Interestingly, while I was writing to you all earlier (in fact, right after I finished my last post) a very close friend called to check on me. Man, did she get an earful! But this is a good friend and when I said (sarcastically) "Aren't you glad you called?" She, very seriously, said "Yes, I am." That brought me to tears.
Rock - Obliviousness. That's beautiful. And, no, I don't remember the chicken story and I would have. I think part of it is that she is just tired of hearing about how tired/sick/in need of help I am. I think she just wants Mom, without all that other crap. Me, too. And I'm going to have to remember the "Listen here, Suzie Q..." I called my little one "Fussypants" the other day and she giggled hysterically.
Julie - Hi and glad you found a scarf that works. Yes, she will (mostly) do what is asked, but not necessarily anything extra, unless she's in the mood. I told my friend today that I expected this, but not at 9. More like 12 or 13. Who knows? Maybe those will be the good years!
And here's a shout out to everyone growing hair - fuzzy, baby bird, down-like, piglet hair! Let's hear it for HAIR!!
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Eddie ~ And where does this 'friend' live?
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