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  • lrm1
    lrm1 Member Posts: 7
    edited June 2008

    New to this forum....Dx with invasive ductal carcinoma on 4/4/08 at age 31. BRCA1 and 2 was negative. Grade 3, aggressive & fast growing. I don't even know how big the tumor was (left side only) but it was almost bigger than my breast. My oncologist never said being triple negative was a bad thing. I am slowly finding out its not really a good thing. Have had 4 rounds of AC and am doing 12 weekly tx of Taxol (was deathly sick from the AC). Next is surgery and then radiation. I plan on a double mastectomy. The path report showed 1 lymph node was negative but don't know if any more were positive. My oncologist seems to give me a very good prognosis but I'm not convinced. The tumor has shrunk with the AC but is still there. I have a 3 yr-old and 12 yr-old. Any comments or words of advice would be greatly appreciated! 

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited June 2008

    Welcome to our humble group.  You are on the right track...hit it hard up front.  Node negative is the best place to be with bc.  Hang in there you can do this.  Be sure to read some of the positive posting by other ladies in this area.  There are many who have beat triple neg.  I will look and bump up the thread "Where are all the triple negs" for you.

     We are there for you...let us know what we can help you through your treatment. 

    Flalady

  • Msklapkin
    Msklapkin Member Posts: 208
    edited June 2008

    lrm1,

    welcome to the group- so sorry you are here, but glad you found us.

    First of all, triple neg is NOT all bad.  That is why your onc did not say anything

    HER2+ tumors are very agressive.  Yes, they can treat with Herceptin, but it is better to be negative in the first place so congrats on that.

    I am approaching my 3 year anniversary which is a really big number for triple negs.  We tend to have reoccurance within the first 3 years and then chances drop substantially, where as ER/PR+ tend to reoccur within 5 years.  After 5 years, the numbers all even out for triple negs and any positives

     So look at the positive- we can breath a bit easier a bit earlier.  The tough part is no treatment after chemo/rads.

    I was triple negative, BRCA2+- and 1 sentinal node +- had double mastectomy (One side prophylactic) and oopherectomy.  As I said- almost 3 years and I plan to be around for a long time!! 

    You are aggressive in your treatment which is great- it will be complete before you know it and you will be here encouraging others!

    We all pay it forward.

    Good luck- and smile!

    Susan 

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited June 2008

    7 years out, triple negative, Grade 3, 0/8 nodes.

    Why is your tumor still there?  Are you scheduled for surgery?

  • lrm1
    lrm1 Member Posts: 7
    edited June 2008

    FlaLady--Thank you for your response & positive words of encouragement. Thank you for any information. it looks and sounds like you know alot & have been there, done that. i feel lost in all this & very scared.

     Summer--My tumor has shrunk to almost nothing, but i still feel a very small lump. I am still getting chemo--weekly Taxol, 10 more to go until surgery. i have to wait 4-6 weeks to recover til surgery.

     Msklapkin--Thank you for your response & all the info. I am so happy to hear that you are 3 years out & healthy. it gives me comfort & i thank you for that. Any information or any of your experience would be great knowledge for me in fighting this disease & giving me some peace of mind.

  • mcharl
    mcharl Member Posts: 17
    edited June 2008

    Welcome, but sorry you had to find us. I am 2 yrs out this month and doing well no evidence of disease, you will get used to hearing that phrase and be very happy to hear it, it is the very best news we can have.

    Be kind to yourself and rest when you need to, look at treatment as your weapons, you are at war and cancer is the enemy.  You will surprise yourself how strong you really are.

    I wish you the best my b c sister.  Try to find something, anything to laugh about everyday.

    Mcharl

  • lrm1
    lrm1 Member Posts: 7
    edited June 2008

    mcharl, thank you for your words of kindness. Like i said, i feel lost in all this & way scared. I am sad to say i'm not the cancer pt getting chemo that is always jokin around with nurses & other people there. I am there to get chemo & i just don't wanna. i am the cancer pt getting chemo that is quiet & scared & serious.....maybe someday soon i will be able to be like that but not anytime soon. I find joy in my 3 yr old & cherish every damn second with him (and my hsb and 12-yr old).

    Any words of wisdom or experience you've been through, i'd gladly like to hear it. Take good care.

  • Negative3Grade3
    Negative3Grade3 Member Posts: 111
    edited June 2008

    Dear Irm1,

    You should be highly encouraged that you have had a chemo sensitive tumor that has responded so well to the protocol thus far and you have more to go.  I hope you make it disappear totally by the end (and the path report at surgery will tell you), but even if you don't eliminate it, you had a magnificent response and that is GREAT news.  I know how you feel because I went through the same stage like you did (I have a ten-year-old that still needs me a lot) but having a very good response to chemo (I did neoadjuvant too) kept me going and saw chemo as my tool for fighting my cancer rather than my enemy.  I wish you all the best for the remaining of your chemo.  You will make it through this and you will feel so proud that you are a survivor and a winner.  Just be a little patient.

    Warmly, Christina  

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited June 2008

    lrm1, I too was happy to hear the positive, your tumor is responding so well to chemotherapy. 

  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited June 2008

    Hi sister, I am a Tri-Neg that is 9 & 1/2 years out of treatment.  You do know when we get to 2 to 3 years, these cancers very rarely met or recur.  That is such good news.

    Hugs, Shirlann 

  • HollyHopes
    HollyHopes Member Posts: 497
    edited July 2008

    Hello Dear....glad that you found us.  We are all here to support you.  In September I will be a one year survivor!  Had lumpectomy, dose dense AC and T followed by 31 rads.  I know it's scary.  I still feel scared soemtimes.  Just keeping reaching out as best you can for love and support.   I will pray for your healing...body, mind and spirit!!

  • ladyinpink
    ladyinpink Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2008

    new to this forum.  Recently diagnosed with bc for the 2nd time.  will start chemo (cytoxin & taxol) next week.  I have taken cytoxin before but not taxol.  i did lose all of my hair when i was on ac, but don't know what to expect with cytoxin & taxol.  did anyone out there take the same treatments Did you lose your hair.  if yes, what type of wig did you buy (cheap, expensive?)

  • lrm1
    lrm1 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2008

    ladyinpink,

     i was on AC x4 doses and am currently on Taxol x12 weekly. I lost all my hair on AC and find that little stubble is coming back on my legs and armpits (very very little stubble) and don't think my hair is coming back, though i have read on some people that their hair DID come back on the Taxol. I think it matters what dose treatment of the Taxol. I did buy an expensive wig $800+ and find that i would rather go without. i am 32 years old & never thought i'd go ANYWHERE without that wig....well i've been do-raggin it for the last month or so, and find that i really just dont' care anymore what people think! what i'm really thinking--when people look at me funny, is "i have cancer you a$*h*ole........thats why i have on a do rag!" So think about it before spending lotsa $ on a wig. Its summer, its HOT, my wig looks fake as hell (to me) and gives me a headache after about an hour. Good luck, sorry about the reaccurrence.....prayers to you.

  • lrm1
    lrm1 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2008

    hollyhopes,

     thank you for your words of encouragement.....i am beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel.....but barely. i am half way through 12 of my Taxol (weekly) treatments. Next step surgery. Thank you for your prayers & kind words, i will surely do the same for all of you & everyone on this board! You all are in my thoughts & prayers.

  • ladyinpink
    ladyinpink Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2008

    Thanks for the reply, I know what you mean about the wig being uncomfortable.  I'm just at the shopping stage. I do work out in the public so a wig may be necessary.  I LOVE your attitude, keep it up........................

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited July 2008

    lady,

    I found a wig shop through my clinic. (doctor's nurse) There... I found the most lovely lady running this shop.  She gave 50% off to cancer patients.  I purchase a very nice wig for $80 that my own family thought was my real hair.  I also worked full time through treatment and I also worked with 40 men. I found out they were more comfortable with me in the wig.  So I wore it for them as much as for myself

    .Flalady

  • HollyHopes
    HollyHopes Member Posts: 497
    edited July 2008
    1. to wig or not to wig....I bought a $400 "hair prosthesis" and wore it ONCE!  I hated the wig - itchy, not and goody looking. I went "commando' most of the time and it never bothered me.  I went to work bald and shopping bald and to church and the movies and every other place...bald.

    as to what is "right" for others...each of us has to find her own "right"

  • peachwater
    peachwater Member Posts: 16
    edited August 2008

    Hey there,

        I teach school and decided for my kids sake, I would not look "sick".  Shoot I looked better in that wig than I ever did with my natural hair!  It was only 80 dollars.The ladies at school would ask to touch it because it looked so real.  The guys at school told me they loved my new hair style and did not even know it was a wig.  I wore makeup consistently for the first time in my life and really almost looked better than when I did not have cancer.  I will continue to wear makeup and have fun with wigs. I live in Oklahoma where the wind blows on the prairies-- and sometimes wigs are hot but the extra time spent---made me feel like a million dollars.  I also bought one that looked like me and my hairstyle.  Hope all goes well.

                                                     Barby

  • KPolasek
    KPolasek Member Posts: 184
    edited August 2008

    My friends bought me a $200 wig, I bought one (my friend said that hers stretched out ... and so did mine).  One I called a "houchie mama" wig and I wore it when I needed to have fun .... people's reactions were so funny.  The other one looked like my regular hair.  I wound up wearing hats more than wigs.  I, too, work out in the public.  Actually, I am a chaplain for a hospice.  I was worried about my patients being concerned for me when the focus was to be on them.  Well, it turns out that it opened up a whole new avenue of ministering to them.

     I did not wearing wigs much ... the wind had a tendency to blow them off :o) .... The American Cancer Society ... if they have an office near you ... have wigs available and some scarves for free.  Also, my rad onc gave me a free one as well.  So, I had a nice assortment of wigs. 

    I loved wearing hats ... Target has some cute ones ... and the American Society has a website that you can visit and order from.

    Blessings,

    k

  • KPolasek
    KPolasek Member Posts: 184
    edited August 2008

    Oh, one more thing ... the American Cancer Society has a program called "Look Good, Feel Good."  I hear that they give away free makeup.

    Blessings,

    K

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited August 2008

    KPolasek,

    I'm so glad that you could use your bc journey reach other's in need. What a greet foot note to your journey.

    Blessings to you, 

    Flalady

  • bar62
    bar62 Member Posts: 321
    edited August 2008

    I'm so glad there are so many good ideas here. I am going to have  chemo as soon as I find my MD.  I have had a consult with a Medical Oncologist who prescribed a 16 week cycle of two agents followed by one but my ex- dropped my secondary  so I've signed onto a Medicare PPO to start 9/1/08. My  fingers  are crossed to get  my treatment  started in the next two weeks. I had a bad reaction to methotrexate given me for RA but I have to try for my son.

    I have always hated wigs, though in my younger days I did try them. I will probably try to find ways to be comfy without them.

  • Wink
    Wink Member Posts: 722
    edited August 2008

    I ordered a wig from headcovers.com and found a nice one that was under $100.00.  What about  eyebrows?  They have several options, but have wondered if anyone has tried them.  They have lots of scarves and hats too.  So is there not a standard protocol for TN that has been recommended by the American Cancer Association?  I have my initial meeting with my Oncologist on Sept 2 and want to have as much information as possible regarding treatment for TN with my grade/stage/etc... 

    I am signed up through our outpatient medicine dept to attend an evening of 'Look Good, Feel Good" Do you lose all of your facial hair? Or for that matter, body hair?

    Donna

  • Wink
    Wink Member Posts: 722
    edited August 2008

    I ordered a wig from headcovers.com and found a nice one that was under $100.00.  What about  eyebrows?  They have several options, but have wondered if anyone has tried them.  They have lots of scarves and hats too.  So is there not a standard protocol for TN that has been recommended by the American Cancer Association?  I have my initial meeting with my Oncologist on Sept 2 and want to have as much information as possible regarding treatment for TN with my grade/stage/etc... 

    I am signed up through our outpatient medicine dept to attend an evening of 'Look Good, Feel Good" Do you lose all of your facial hair? Or for that matter, body hair?

    I

  • cmb35
    cmb35 Member Posts: 1,106
    edited August 2008

    I bought at kit at sephora in the mall (you can also get it online) by a company called anastasia, it was expensive, but worth it, actually looked like I had eyebrows, it comes with stencils, a brush, a compact with 2 colors of powder and some other stuff too

    Also, I attended a Look Good, Feel Better session, it was a lot of fun, but the best trick I learned by far is that even when you don't have any eyebrows you can see, there is some hair there. The woman took a brown mascara, wiped off most of the mascara with a tissue, and the kind of stroked the brush along where my eyebrows should be - voila! instant eyebrows!

  • Yukon
    Yukon Member Posts: 7
    edited August 2008

    My Onc says triple neg is not as bad as I thought it was after reading stuff from this site when I was dx 2 yrs ago. So far things are going great, and I do have my sex drive back thank god...

    If anyone has the chance to go to the look good feel great thru ACS go. It is a pick me up when your feeling not so beautiful.

  • Niteowlnz
    Niteowlnz Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2008

    Hi everyone    my name is Sharon I am just about 45 and I am from New Zealand  I am/was triple negative and it is now 4 1/2 years snce my op   - i dont think here in nz we get as mant technical results in our path reports but i had a 3cm tumour that was grade 3 and had 1 node positive - I had a full mastectomy  folowed by chemo  and then 5 weeks radiotherapy  - I definitely went bald with chemo :-)  but decided to just get around bald - people were great  luckily for me had an easy time of both chemo and raditherapy only blistering at the very end - anyway as i said am 4 1/2 years on working fourty hours a week at a very active job and feel middleaged and have menopause but apart from that things are good   slight rib pain caused through the radiation i recieved ( not that they told me at the time that bone degradation can be a side effect of radiation) as far as i am concerened a small price to pay :-) anyway just wanted to say hi and hope that the more of us that survive and tell our stories can encourage those that have just been diagnosed  thanks for the chance to join in  

  • Roya
    Roya Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2008

    Sharon, thank you for your very inspirational post.  I too am going to just wear my bald. I have 3 new wigs and they are so uncomfortable.  I am glad that everything is going so well for you.  4 1/2 years out is great! 

    CMB35, I appreciate the info regarding the Sephora kit.  My brows are quite thin now and I was wondering how to make them look better.

  • janinvan
    janinvan Member Posts: 83
    edited September 2008

    SUSAN,     re stats on recurrence, etc. (within 3 years for triple neg.) ....I think that to quote/believe these figures may be a deterrent/negative situation  -- for patients/doctors re the  correct observation/surveillance of a previous breast cancer site--whether it was a lumpectomy or masectomy!!  ... Mine recurred 11 1/2 years on a masectomy site.  Quicker detection should be a goal!  (with physical examination/knowledge and certain scans)   Breast cancer cells also attach to lymph nodes and they don't know enough in this area!!

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited October 2008

    Janivan

    Did they remove all your lymph nodes the time you did masectomy?

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