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Hard to believe, Susie, but apparently the lesson of Berlin didn't stick. Will he wear a laurel wreath? Mad Magazine!
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Even MSNBC is shaking their head......
http://www.johnmccain.com/McCainReport/Read.aspx?guid=d6363835-1a74-4524-9815-39f409cc483c
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Lot of angry people out there---
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Krauthammer today in the Washington Post.
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Has He Lost His Mind?
“Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's big speech on Thursday night will be delivered from an elaborate columned stage resembling a miniature Greek temple.
The stage, similar to structures used for rock concerts, has been set up at the 50-yard-line, the midpoint of Invesco Field, the stadium where the Denver Broncos' National Football League team plays.
Some 80,000 supporters will see Obama appear from between plywood columns painted off-white, reminiscent of Washington's Capitol building or even the White House, to accept the party's nomination for president.
He will stride out to a raised platform to a podium that can be raised from beneath the floor.”
-- Reuters, Aug. 26, 2008
Jacques-Louis David, Napoleon Crowning Himself Emperor Before the Pope, 1805. (Louvre)
The Berlin folly -- in English.
The Superbowl Halftime Show -- without the game.
What's the finish? Maybe Obama’s got Zhang Yimou to do the hidden-rope trick, and have him lifted, Beijing-style, to the heavens when he’s done. Will he reappear three days later at the Bird’s Nest?
Or maybe he'll just do a Napoleon and coronate himself. By the time Napoleon made himself emperor, he had won the Battles of Lodi, of Arcole, of Rivoli, of the Pyramids and of Marengo. And had promugulated the Napoleonic Code. He had yet to write a single autobiography.
By Charles Krauthammer | August 27, 2008; 11:22 AM ET -
Ann,
It could be a concept but it's directly taken from Saul's book. Which tells me a lot about the speech writers that are employed by the Obama camp. I understand that one of Obama's bloggers is a well known maoist.
Back to the abortion issue Anne Shirley. There are a lot of Peter's and a lot of binding and loosening. The Bible should sit as the Book that all the Peter's refer to when they're binding. Thou shall not kill shouldn't have needed any explanation over the years by anyone. When a soul hits a body in a womb shouldn't have been discussed outside of thou shall not kill, but maybe at the time it needed some explanation by a St. Augustine, or whomever was doing the explaining and getting it wrong.
It still doesn't change the fact that Pelosi chose to answer that question by talking about past church history, just so she can allieviate her conscience over her personal decision to support Roe v. Wade, fully knowing she was way out of line with today's church teachings.
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Rosemary--still with Pelosi on this one and so is Augustine and Aquinas! And science!
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This From Obama's puppeteer Axelrod----Was there ever a lamer retort about Obama's Olympic palace???
On the flight from Billings, Montana, to Denver, Colo., Obama senior strategist David Axelrod responded to the criticism.
"I know that Sen McCain and his people have been shooting barbs about the 'opulence' of our convention from the mountaintop at Sedona at the McCain estate. I don't think it warrants a response."
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If this isn't the best time to be a Republican. I can only imagine McCain standing in front of such a prop. The democrats are embarrassing themselves again. I'm embarrassed for them. Maybe using a prop such as Federalist Hall would be appropriate but a blue screen would have done very nicely. More child's play. And they want to be President. My head is shaking.
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Anne Shirley, I am sure you hate talk radio, but you might tune in today online to checkout Micheal Medved singing the praises of Hillary's speech. Even Dick Morris, who we all know hates her, said it was the best speech she has ever given and why he thinks so. His observations that she drew analagies to Harriet Tubman instead of Obama, appealing to an African American audience, were interesting. They both send she should have been the nominee, and I for one, after that speech, am glad that Obama did not have the kahuna's to pick her. Do you thing Jesse Jackson got hold of him after all? LOL And I can see how Hillary supporters are so ticked off that the party would allow a man to cut to the front of the line, when he has done nothing to deserve it. I agree with you, it really looks bad,that the party that is supposed to be for minorities, snubs the largest one, women. Dick Morris also mentions that the blame for Hillaris loss, goes directly to Bill, not just for the stupid things he said for all his shenanigans. As I said many times, if she had packed up and moved out on the smuck, instead of lying for him, I would have been more supportive of her.
Was is just my imagination or did Michelle look really peeved by Hillary's speech. I know she tends to have a dour face, although she smiles widely when she is in the spotlight, but she sure didn't smile during that speech. Cat fight??
As for the backdrop for the Obamolympics, maybe he is trying to make it feel like home. Those columns were the backdrop for Soldier Field in Chicago, and such a big deal to the city, that they were moved to Millennium park when they redid the bears stadium.
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About abortions..Anneshirley, since you are no longer a believer I doubt this video would make any difference to you. Perhaps it would make any difference to believers either. I watched this many years ago in my home. It brought me to tears. It is not as good (clear) on the internet. I encourage you to watch the Silent Scream. It's an abortion done under ultrasound...perhaps they're all done that way...I don't know. The young doctor who performed the abortion had already performed 10,000 of them. After helping edit the video he never did another abortion. In fact, after seeing it he had to leave the room and then come back in to edit. The woman filming the procedure never mentioned abortions again.
It's heart wrenching to watch this BABY, yes baby, resting in it's mother's womb with his little thumb up to his mouth. And his heart beat was calm. He was calm UNTIL the instruments starting poking and probbing, and then he was thrashing about trying to get away from this "killer" thing polking and prodding. The doctor finally tore his little body from his head. The head was next. The took another instrument to crush the head. The word they used for the head was, "number one." The assistant, or whomever, asked, did you get number 1. I'm sure they say that because they don't want the mother to hear, did you get the HEAD..OR,..did you crush the head?
This was a twelve week pregnancy. The doctor that orates the film explains everything to you..what they use..what the tools are for...shows you the size of the baby. If you can stomach it I would suggest everyone watch it. Have a tissue near by.
I believe if one has children of their own, or want children, this film will make one think twice. It won't stop all abortions, but perhaps it would persuade people to use other options. And perhaps it would encourage folks to use contraceptives. Obama says he would like to see less abortions...buy the DVD, Obama, and you might accomplish what you speak of.
Shirley
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Well first we had Hillary "the Monster" courtesy of Samantha Powers who tell Columbia U She'll be back Joel J. Sprayregen at American Thinker says she remains close to Obama and they text each other into the night....http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/what_would_president_obamas_fo.html
--now we have Obama campaign chief of staff Jim Messina calling McCain a "Shmuck"----Lovely surrogates he surrounds himself with...............
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My brother and I commented on the facial expression of MO. I do not think she liked her speech. If anyone noticed, and how could you not, the speech was more about HER....LOL And she didn't crucify McCain. I think Hillary wants Obama to think long and hard about what he did when picking Biden for VP. The only thing I got from her speech on WHY one should vote for Obama is because he's a dem. Sorry, that's not good enough for me.
Anneshirley, didn't you notice when she spoke of all the things she was proud about she didn't mention being a "proud wife." LOL And Billy boy was up their crying and saying, I'll love you forever. Too late Bill. I do think she's over you. She doesn't need you anymore. She's used you up just like you used her up. LOL
Oh, and the columns are just grandiose. I had heard today on Fox that they were thinking twice about what they have done...ROCKSTAR! Well, at least he'll have his 80,000 people there to swoon over him. I sure hope it doesn't downpour like it did here today. What a disaster that would be.
I wonder who McCain is going to pick for his VP. Sure hope it's a woman! Maybe he'll pick HIlary!
Shirley
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Quoting from your site, Susie. Has Powers ever watched Hotel Rowanda? The U.N. flunked! Is she out of touch, or what? We all ridicule the U.N.
Preferring soft-line liberal responses, Power apparently would advise President Obama to complain to the U.N. in the event of a repetition of 9/11. She condemns President Bush for "consistently ridiculing" the U.N. She says that a correct (i.e., Democratic) response to 9/11 and Saddam Hussein's defiance of U.N. resolutions would have been continued reliance on "diplomatic engagement" and the U.N., notwithstanding its failures, exacerbated by veto powers of countries which enjoy seeing us bleed. This surely constitutes the triumph of flawed memory over hope. Her myopia is so advanced that she claims "the U.S.-led invasion brought savage sectarian killing to Iraq."
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News notice to attendees of Mile High Stadium
All concession stands will be closed. At the end of the TEMPLE ON THE MOUND speach, Obama will be given a Captain Dees order of Fish and Chips, will supersize it to feed the masses.
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Check out the article about their foreign policy titled "Obama bin biden" at Humanevents.com
Don't you just love the title!
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"Rosemary--still with Pelosi on this one and so is Augustine and Aquinas! And science!"
It's above my pay grade to make any judgments on both you ladies.
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Linda, that's one scary article. I don't know where in the heck I found it, but I watched a video made by a Dutch politician Geert Wilders. The video has been taken off YouTube, I believe. And Wilders is in "hiding" because he's had threats on his life. I wish I could find the video. I'll have to search further tomorrow. I either watched it today or yesterday. The Islam extremist talked about killing all that didn't believe how they did. They hate America and what it stands for. We've had honor killings right here in this country. They talked about that. Now, if I can just find it. I don't know if you saw it or not.
Shirley
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I found the way that was mentioned here earlier that the Representatives will use to get their drilling bills past Pelosi. It's called a Discharge Petition. They only need 218 signatures from other congress members and the bill will come to the floor. It's up to us to convince our representatives to sign the petition. Some might be a bit hesitant since Nancy rules the roost over there. It must be nice to be Queen.
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My 20 year old daughter (who is a polital science major) sent me the article below on equal pay. Interesting reading for all. I am an independent voter, whose wants to make sure our world is a better place for all Americans. The country needs politiicans who aren't on the far right or left. Nothing gets done in Washington with that attitude. Compromise and common sense is what this country needs. Neither candidate is perfect, unfortunately.
Home / Globe / Opinion / Op-ed Ellen Goodman
The backward plight of the working woman
By Ellen Goodman
May 2, 2008
BY NOW the Tale of Lilly Ledbetter is starting to sound like the Perils of Pauline or the Pre-Feminist Follies. At 70, she's the star of a long-running drama about how hard we have to run to keep from slipping backward.
Republicans block pay discrimination bill
The Alabama woman was just 26 when Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed to enforce equality in the workplace. The old stalwart - equal pay for equal work - is so universally accepted that we choose to believe it's not just a law but a fact of life.
Our gal Ledbetter, however, worked for two decades in the not-so-female-friendly ranks of Goodyear. Only when she neared retirement did an anonymous tipster slip her a reality check about her paycheck. It turned out that as a female supervisor, she was earning less than her male counterparts. She was paid on average 79 cents for every male dollar, a figure suspiciously close to the national wage gap.
Ledbetter sued and won her case. But Goodyear appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, where Samuel Alito had just replaced Sandra Day O'Connor. Last year, in one of the backward flips that characterize the court, a 5-to-4 majority went against Ledbetter on the grounds that she hadn't sued in time. The justices read the law through their retro lens and decided a worker has to sue within six months after her first unequal pay. It doesn't matter whether she knows she's being treated unfairly and it doesn't matter if she keeps getting underpaid.
In essence, as Marcia Greenberger of the National Women's Law Center said, if a company could pull the wool over an employee's eyes for the first six months, it's free.
An outraged Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg called the decision "totally at odds with the robust protection against workplace discrimination." She concluded her ringing dissent with an appeal to Congress to "correct this court's parsimonious reading of Title VII."
Well, the House of Representatives did just that, and pretty promptly. It passed a bill to restore the rules to allow an employee to sue up to 180 days after the latest unequal paycheck. But when the bill bearing Lilly Ledbetter's name got to the Senate, the Republicans balked. There weren't enough Republican defectors to overcome a filibuster and get the bill on the Senate floor.
Not only did Bush threaten to veto the restoration act, his would-be successor didn't even take time off the campaign trail to vote. John McCain let it be known that he opposed the Ledbetter legislation because it "opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems." This is a little like saying we shouldn't have any laws because they only clog up the courts.
So Lilly lost again. Welcome to 2008. Or is it 1964?
If you've been listening lately, the reasons for the tenacious wage gap between men and women in the 21st century have been dropped on the lap of working women. Women aren't paid equally because they have this nasty habit of giving birth. Or they "opt out." Or they choose jobs that let them get home before the kids' bedtimes. Or they don't know how to negotiate. The fault is not in our workplaces but in ourselves.
The idea that the wage gap might be because of, um, sex discrimination seems soooo 20th century. In fact, the Supreme Court implied that Lilly Ledbetter's lower paycheck was her own fault because she didn't start investigating her employer for sex discrimination as soon as she started her job.
As for the conductor of the Straight Talk Express? McCain said he was all in favor of equal pay for equal work, but that women don't need lawsuits, they need "education and training." So let's begin with a couple of basics.
Lesson One: An unequal paycheck is a thief that keeps on taking. Even in retirement, Ledbetter is still, in her own words, "a second-class worker" with a pension and Social Security check that carry Goodyear's bite marks.
Lesson Two: In 2008, the Republicans are partying - "political partying" - like it's 1964.
Ellen Goodman's e-mail address is ellengoodman@globe.com.
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McCain made a huge mistake with that one, no doubt about it. When I was working, I had no idea if I was being paid the same amount as anyone in my job place. Not even other women.
Where he got the idea this would clog up the courts is beyond me. One should only have to bring the proof to the EEOC and they have a hearing. Right now, the EEOC can't even hear it if it's gone beyond the 6 months time frame. That needs fixing, and McCain needs educating.
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Michael Medved was actually talking about this yesterday on his radio show. While we all agree that women should be paid equally with men for doing the same job, the problem with the law is that it would be up to the government to determine what is an equal job. For instance should a women working as a mail carrier in a truck be paid the same as a man driving a delivery truck for a local business? You can see how it would pose a problem if jobs were compared and had to be put to some government guidelines. More bureacracy, more litigation, it will never end. That is why McCain and other republicans. were against it, not because they did not feel women have a right to equal pay. It goes along with the republican stance that government needs to be less involved, not more. With this I totally agree. And I always like Medved's sensible explanation of things as they are, not as they appear to be. By leaving out the reasons McCain votes against something, the dem propagandists can make him look uncaring. When you did deeper and understand why, it makes more sense. Remember how they keep bringing up one of his nay vote for veterens when he voted no because he did not like all the pork that was attached to it. No one wants more benefits for vets than McCain, but they refuse to put forth a clean bill that only benefits vets. So when he votes no, they say he does not support vets, which is ridiculous. It is all politics as usual. Spin the story to make the other guy look bad.
I also like listening to him because like me, he spent most of his life as a dem, until he started to look more deeply into issues and realized that they were feeding us a line of bull. His is on here in the late afternnoon so I bring my little radio out when I water the garden or take a bike ride.
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Yes Rosemary--We have allot of educating to do but I believe McCain is a centrist truly listens to many voices and truly works across the aisles; He is capable of making the compromises that will be needed in healthcare and hopefully we can convince him on womans issues......
Okay ---Just a coincidence or a final dig??? After Clinton left the stage they played addicted to love and panned to Hillary..................Wonder if anyone caught it????? Kumbayah
Is the media really trying to compare the two????
Here's an image from the 2004 Bush re-election Convention
The same people who do the staging for the Britany Spears concerts are doing this one...............
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Linda-I'm such a slow poster that my posts always cross everyones.......
I always figure McCain has good solid reasons and things aren't so cut and dry as they seem.
I enjoy Michael Medved for the same reasons----------Although, I still consider myself an Independent ---although every day leaning more and more Republican
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Do we have a scoop???? Oh the intrigue.................
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Romney Family Gets Security Sweep
August 28, 2008, 1:26 p.m.
By David M. Drucker
Roll Call Staff
If security sweeps are the giveaway, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney may be on the brink of being selected as Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) vice presidential running mate.According to sources with strong Michigan ties, the Secret Service has conducted a security sweep of the home of Romney’s sister. Romney was raised in Michigan, where his father served as governor.
However, one campaign operative familiar with the working of a presidential-level campaign cautioned that a sweep of such a location could have been conducted in advance of Romney appearing as a surrogate — not the vice presidential nominee — at an upcoming McCain campaign stop in Michigan.
Any McCain campaign appearance in Michigan would likely include Romney, who remains popular there.
Other sources and some news reports have also suggested that Romney in the last few days might be traveling with a security detail, although exactly who employs this security detail could not be confirmed.
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About equal pay. I never much cared about money (really!) so didn't concern myself too much about whether another person doing the same or lesser job was making more money; what finally got my attention was when I worked as a consultant for NYNEX. I was an independent and most of the other consultants (we were all mainly consultants as telecom employees spent all their time in meetngs while we did the work--this is for you Shirley, and it's true) were from the largest data processing consulting company in the U.S. They were all men, and I was the only woman, and working much harder than any of them. But when the NYNEX person tried to get me to work what's called a ten-hour day for an eight-hour wage, I exploded. Yes, the other consultants were doing exactly that, but they were getting $50 more an hour than I--of course, most of it went to their companies, not to them. That's when I finally said no more. I gave my notice unless they paid me $50 more an hour--and they did. And never again after that did I let womanly modesty prevent me from getting the same pay as the guys. And that, by the way is one of the problems. Woman are reluctant to talk money and men are not. So, always try to find out what others are being paid for the same job and go for it.
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Susie--I was still hoping for Olympia Snow, although my husband, the practical one, said I was ridiculous--it would never happen. I so much wanted a vp with a "choice" position. I'm so afraid McCain will win, but if he picked a "choice" candidate it would be a signal that he has no intention of going after Roe v Wade. Oh well, Romney it probably is.
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Neither of them will put Roe vs Wade at the top of their agenda.
http://www.ontheissues.org/governor/Mitt_Romney_Abortion.htm
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By the way Anne---McCain offered a suggestion of a runningmate at a fundraiser in California this week:
Asked to hint which way he is leaning, McCain turned — as he has for days — to a joke, saying it would be actor Wilford Brimley. "He's a former Marine and great guy and he's older than I am, so that might work," said the four-term Arizona senator, who turns 72 on Friday.
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The Oat Bran ticket ?????
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Linda,
If the bill called for equal pay in the job place, then there was no excuse for him voting against it. He didn't vote against it, he wasn't there for the vote, but he talked against it. He needs to be very prepared to answer to this in the debates, should it come up. And honestly to us too.
It shouldn't be about what a person makes across town in another job entirely. Fair is fair, and grievences could easily be heard in the EEOC. It didn't ever have to get to a court room.
I haven't read the bill but McCain's excuse needed more explanation then just saying it could clog up our courts. If it should come up, I'd like to hear his excuse.
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Anneshirley, I do think women are getting a bit braver when speaking up about their pay. However, if one is hired with much less experience at the same job should that person first "prove" themselves? That they can learn and do the job? And after "proving" themselves get that big raise?
Why I'm asking that is as I posted on the Hillary thread where you got upset with me I stated that my dd who works in Human Resources left a small company for which she developed it's Human Resource department. The company was going downhill because of bad decisions made by the owner. DD decided to look for another job. She was hired with a fortune 500 company, Ingersoll Rand. She is learning things she has never done. She knows she's not getting the pay that some of the other employees, even women, who have the same title. She has access to those files. However, I do believe once she learns the "ropes" and proves herself she'll get that raise. And if not, believe me she will talk to her immediate boss. She tells me all the time that she is doing/learning things she has never done and it scares her. I tell her she'll pick it up just fine because she's just that kind of person. She's hard worker WITH two children.
Even though I was a stay at home mom, I admire women who work AND take care of a family. I hope in the near future she can hire someone to clean her house.
Edited by me because I'm missing some brain cells..sorry Linda.
Shirley
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