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  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited August 2008

    Just my take but I'm starting to wonder---Johnny Cochran, Teddy Kennedy, Bob Novak---Are we starting to see the effects of heavy cell phone usage?  These guys had to live on cell phones.  Do we really know the effects of longterm heavy usage?

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited August 2008

    I've been avoiding all the Sunday morning news shows---Need to take care of my BP.   But I usually can't resist tuning in on the last half hour of This Week on ABC because I like to listen to George Will.

    Well I was flabbergasted at what came out of David Gergens mouth.  Were any of you?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfXvK84MPqQ

    hotair.com has a good take on this:

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    “Moses” ad is code for calling Obama “uppity”
    posted at 6:08 pm on August 3, 2008 by Allahpundit

    In which the single dumbest, most paranoid racial charge of the campaign is recycled on national television by a former presidential advisor and current Harvard professor. I said it before but it bears repeating: If you take this logic to its conclusion, there’s literally no non-racist way to accuse a member of a minority group of having an outsized ego. Any synonym you can conjure — elitist, arrogant, “megalomaniac narcissist” (to quote Hitchens) — can all happily be dismissed as “code,” regardless of whether the subject might in fact (a) display his very own presidential seal, (b) be known to describe rural voters in terms that call to mind Cletus the slackjawed yokel on “The Simpsons,” and (c) oh, by the way, lead his very own cult with himself as godhead.

    George Will makes a point I made myself last week, that the irony of all these bad-faith charges of racism is that most of the GOP’s knocks on Obama’s ego are straight out of the playbook they used against “haughty, French-looking Democrat” John Kerry. Granted, there was no “Moses” ad for Waffles, but that’s because most people hated him; Obama is adored to an absurdly iconic extent, especially vis-a-vis his actual accomplishments (in Lindsey Graham’s words, “fame without portfolio”), which is why he gets goofed on as leading people to the Promised Land whereas Kerry got the windsurfer treatment. (Although there are plenty of goofs on Obama along the same dorky windsurfer lines to be found if you look around.) The real “tell” here, though, is what Gergen offers as further evidence to support his point — that McCain, when asked about affirmative action, said he opposes quotas. A perfectly mainstream conservative position, and certainly one McCain would also hold if he was facing Hillary, but because he’s facing Obama McCain’s no longer allowed to talk about it. Presumably he should be responding to questions on the subject with a terse “no comment” lest halfwits like this whip out their secret racial decoder rings to tell America what he “really” meant.

    That’s okay. The more ridiculous the left’s demagoguery becomes, the more credibility they lose with voters. See, e.g., the new Rasmussen poll on McCain’s Britney ad. Not only did a vast majority see nothing racist about it (Democrats themselves are evenly divided) but fully 53% found St. Barack’s “dollar bill” comment over the line, including 44% of blacks. Keep talking, Gergen. 

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited October 2008

    I caught a few minutes of Rush while in the car today. He was talking about the left complaining about the Hilton ad's reference to his celebrity and then how all the celebrities seem to be endorsing him because he is one of them. Then he went on the note that no matter who gets elected, it will have no effect on the lives of celebrities. They will still have the money to do as they please. So why are they such Obamaniacs?Maybe  they are just looking for a free night in the one place they cannot get a room, the White House.

    Susie, I think you are right, we all need to start thinking about talking on cell phones without ear phones. I wonder what it is doing to kids, who are always plugged in to a cell phone or IPOD?

    I heard a Fox pundit today referring to Obama's flipflops as Barackaflops. I thought it was funny.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Your post above says it all.  What else can Gergen come up with?  When I watched that YouTube link you provided my mouth just about dropped open.  I thought, ARE YOU FOR REAL!

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    I just heard that McCain has asked Obama to go back to D.C. with him and work on the energy bill (not the exact words).  HAHA!  doubt that will happen. 

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited August 2008

    The Dems are in a mess today.  Ol Bill wouldn't endorse Obama today, instead he side-stepped the question.  The question to Bill, do you think he is ready to be President?  Ol Bill:  No one is really ready to be President, etc.  I laughed out loud.  He can't do it.

    Then, some other Dem Senator, as they're falling all over themselves over the drilling issue: well we've always been for drilling..Obama too. ( I'm rolling).  You don't understand, we have 4 bills before congress and the republicans won't let us bring them up for a vote.  Oh?  Is that so.  Why then won't you all go back and get them up for a vote since the republicans are sitting there waiting for Congress to go back and act.  Bluster, bluster, bluster.  What a day, and it ain't over yet.

    I'm having way too much fun. It's a good day.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    From George Stephanopoules" interview with Pelosi (if you can stomach her):

    Link if you care to watch it.  I did and I wanted to smash in my monitor!  Just who does she think she is?

    http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5504708

    STEPHANOPOULOS: But why not allow votes on all that? When you came in as "Speaker you promised in your commitment book "A New Direction for America," let me show our viewers, you said that "Bills should generally come to the floor under a procedure that allows open, full, fair debate consisting of full amendment process that grants the Minority the right to offer its alternatives." If they want to offer a drilling proposal, why can't they have a vote?

    PELOSI: They'll have to use their imagination as to how they can get a vote and then they may get a vote."

    From Bobby Eberle:

    http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/wp-print.php?p=754

    "The same things apply to the gas situation and "big oil." I am a fan of sports cars, so when I travel, I often pick up a magazine such as Car and Driver. In this month's issue, the Editor-in-Chief Csaba Csere, wrote an interesting article pointing out some of the facts and figures that the liberals conveniently fail to mention."

    "A barrel of crude oil contains 42 gallons and currently costs (at time of publishing) about $130. That means the raw material (think lemons) costs $3.10 a gallon. For finding the oil, getting it out of the ground, transporting it to a refinery, turning it into gasoline, and distributing that gasoline, ExxonMobil cleared about 58 cents per gallon in 2007, based on figures in its annual report. Of that 58 cents, Exxon paid about 25 cents in federal income tax. The feds also collected 18.4 cents of excise tax per gallon. Meanwhile, the state of Michigan collects 19.875 cents per gallon of "excise and environmental" taxes, along with 24 cents of sales tax (at $4 per gallon). So, ExxonMobil nets 33 cents per gallon, while our federal and state governments take 87 cents per gallon."

    "So, who profits more from high oil prices? Big oil or big government?"

    There are places on the link that you can click onto to tell Congress to come back from their vacation that many of us cannot afford.

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Rosemary, this should be fun to watch.  Or maddening!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Another BIG flip by Obama and this was just a couple of weeks ago.  He is the master of CHANGE alright!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JklRAVIKjk

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited August 2008

    Since July 7th, the dems & republicans soundly voted against using our oil reserve.  He comes out for using it today.  You know they all have to eat crow today, he let them get on record, all denouncing drilling in their very special democrat way, and now he's all for it.  But then again, he's always been for it.  He was misunderstood.  Hillary must be looking very good to a lot of the superdelegates today. 

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited August 2008

    Only 143 days of Senate experience---This I did not know.  Hillary must be pulling her hair out.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/04/oops-democrat-on-vp-shortlist-underscores-obamas-inexperience/

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited August 2008

    I've watched C-SPAN longer then he's been an active Senator.  I heard someone today talking and he was saying that the dems in congress won't follow his lead any longer.  He's sending out too many false signals to say one thing, then he says another.  A lot of them are up for re-election this year, and they're all going to look stupid because they just took their marching orders without question.  They are adults, with minds of their own, and from what I hear some Dems have not fell in line behind the no drilling theme.  If they could have gotten past Pelosi, a drilling bill would have passed.

    Wouldn't we want to be a fly on the wall in Pelosi's home today.  I can just hear her now...cover your ears...that $%^ $@ * ^*%$H!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    I might just have some hope for my dd yet.  I talked to her tonight about the candidates.  She doesn't have a great deal of time to watch or read about politics.  She's an attorney and she and her other buddy recently started their own firm and are swamped.  She said she's not impressed with Obama.  She was a Hillary supporter.  And she's a liberal.  And, she's certainly not in favor of redistribution which I think Obama is in favor of.  She's waiting for the debates. 

    I can only hope and pray.

    Shirley 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Susie, there are other good stories on the Malkin site.  I read about one where he promised a school in Kenya that he'd help them.  They've heard nothing since his visit two years ago.  His grandfather donated the property for this school.  And the school was named after Obama.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/31/save-the-neglected-obama-school-in-kenya/

    Just more hype from a politician. 

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited August 2008

    Here is an interesting one from hotair regarding Obama's energy proposals.

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    Did Obama endorse rolling blackouts?
    posted at 1:30 pm on August 5, 2008 by Ed Morrissey


    Barack Obama repeated his call for a 15% reduction in electrical demand in Youngstown, Ohio, and held California up as a model for the rest of the nation to follow. Claiming that the Golden State made great strides towards efficiency, Obama apparently forgot the travails California went through:

        Finally, I will call on businesses, government, and the American people to meet the goal of reducing our demand for electricity 15% by the end of the next decade. This is by far the fastest, easiest, and cheapest way to reduce our energy consumption – and it will save us $130 billion on our energy bills. One report found that right here in Ohio, improvements in energy efficiency can help save homes and businesses $1.5 billion in energy costs by 2020.

        The state of California has implemented such a successful efficiency strategy that while electricity consumption grew 60% in this country over the last three decades, it didn’t grow at all in California. There is no reason we can’t do the same thing all across America.

    Let’s emulate California?  First, California didn’t cut their demand; they only kept it from increasing.  Next, people may remember how well California’s energy policy worked over the last two decades.  The aging infrastructure, price mandates, and botched privatization led the state into years of rolling blackouts, where utilities simply cut off supply in order to compensate for an inability to meet demand.  Governor Gray Davis got recalled from office over the issue, but the blackouts continued for years afterward.

    And again, California never did reduce demand, not even by 5%, let alone 15%.  I’m not sure Californians would feel like a great example of an energy policy that worked, and I doubt the rest of the nation feels differently.  And Obama once again repeated his pledge to get a million more plug-hybrids (at 150 mpg!) on the road while cutting electrical demand, a neat trick that Obama still hasn’t explained.

    Obama also talked about jobs, but for some reason didn’t mention the jobs that would get created through a responsible energy policy:

        The payoff from these investments in renewable energy sources will be renewable energy jobs across Ohio and across America.  Now, I know that over the past eight years, you’ve lost more 236,000 manufacturing jobs in this state. But I also know that Ohio has the second highest potential of all fifty states to create new wind energy manufacturing jobs – and investing in wind power could increase workers’ wages in Ohio by more than $3.5 billion through the year 2020.  I also know that with the right investments, this state could save $24 billion a year that you spend importing energy, and instead, power two million homes using wind power.

    Eventually, when mass-production sources of energy are found, it will result in jobs.  Those will come much later than even Obama’s pessimistic predictions of oil production from domestic drilling, at least ten years out and maybe more than that.  Domestic drilling, however, would create jobs now.  ANWR alone would create 750,000 jobs, and deep-sea drilling more than that.  It would create American jobs at home as investments increased in our own resources — and could easily be done at the same time and in parallel to work developing energy sources of the future.

    Why not do both?  Obama never explains that, just as he never explains how we’ll cut 15% of our electrical demand while transferring vehicles to electricity.
     

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Rolling blackouts, huh?  Sure doesn't sound good to me.  I'm already getting hot flash from reading your post.  Surprised

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Pelosi will take the heat when it comes to the dems appeasing their constituents on drilling.  ARRRGGHHHH!

    Pelosi: At-risk Dems back drilling
    By: Martin Kady II and Patrick O'Connor
    August 5, 2008 07:44 AM EST

    California Democrat Nancy Pelosi may be trying to save the planet - but the rank and file in her party increasingly are just trying to save their political hides when it comes to gas prices as Republicans apply more and more rhetorical muscle.

    But what looks like intraparty tension on the surface is part of an intentional strategy in which Pelosi takes the heat on energy policy, while behind the scenes she's encouraging vulnerable Democrats to express their independence if it helps them politically, according to Democratic aides on and off Capitol Hill.

    Pelosi's gambit rests on one big assumption: that Democrats will own Washington after the election and will be able to craft a sweeping energy policy that is heavy on conservation and fuel alternatives while allowing for some new oil drilling. Democrats see no need to make major concessions on energy policy with a party poised to lose seats in both chambers in just three months - even if recess-averse Republicans continue to pound away on the issue.

    "The reality is we will have a new president in three months, and what Bush and the Republicans are trying to do amounts to a land grab for the oil companies," said one senior House Democratic aide involved with party strategy. "I don't think we have to give in at all pre-election - we have many more options postelection."

    It's a reality that Rep. Nick J. Rahall (D-W.Va.) personally delivered to President Bush recently.

    See also

    Rahall spent more than an hour last week talking to the president about energy. Bush spent the entire flight aboard Air Force One, and much of a subsequent limousine ride, grilling the West Virginia Democrat about legislative solutions to the high price of gasoline, Rahall said last week.

    So, does the president think Congress can get anything done this year?

    "No," Rahall replied in a short interview with Politico. "He's realistic about it."

    Asked if Congress will produce a comprehensive energy bill in September before Congress adjourns again for elections, Rahall replied, "This year? No."

    Instead, the chairman of the House Committee on Natural Resources believes Democrats are all about 2009.

    "We've laid the groundwork this year," Rahall said.

    Democratic House aides say the energy agenda has been carefully gamed out in strategy sessions, and Pelosi always intended to take heat on gas prices while tacitly encouraging more vulnerable Democrats to publicly disagree with her and show their independence.

    Freshman Democrats like Jason Altmire of Pennsylvania and Don Cazayoux of Louisiana have taken her up on the offer.

    Altmire has said a drilling vote "will happen," while Cazayoux, hoping to hang on to his seat in a conservative Baton Rouge-area district, on Friday sent a letter to Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) demanding a vote on more domestic oil exploration.

    "There will be a vote," said Altmire, who faces a rematch with former GOP Rep. Melissa Hart this fall in the Pittsburgh suburbs.

    Indeed, Congress must vote before Sept. 30 to renew the annual moratorium; otherwise, it will lapse on its own, giving states the right to decide whether private companies can search for potential drilling sites three miles offshore. .

     

    "My view is that if we have a vote, let's make it a rational policy," said Altmire, whose district includes viable coal and nuclear industries. "We can't let Republicans hold this issue hostage because of one vote."

    Cazayoux, in his letter, says "the current debate seems to be bogged down in partisan one-upmanship."

    To some extent, House Republicans seem to be playing right along with the strategy, taking Pelosi's name in vain dozens of times during their rebel House sessions over the past few days and making her the villain who won't allow oil drilling votes.

    "It's grossly unfair to the Democrats who want a vote," said Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas). "[Pelosi] needs to cut that out."

    The Senate has also gone with a run-out-the-clock strategy, with Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) calling for a bipartisan energy summit but promising no major energy votes. Reid embraced the drilling and conservation proposals of the bipartisan Senate "Gang of 10" last week, but he made further commitment on the energy debate.

    Reid, like Pelosi, is expecting to have a much stronger governing majority in the Senate next year, so he has little incentive to give in to Republicans on energy policy as long as he thinks it won't hurt Democrats.

    Even as they face heat from constituents during the August break, Democrats say they aren't going to cave in to popular pressure.

    "We feel pretty comfortable with where we are," said Rep. Michael E. Capuano (D-Mass.), who is close to the Democratic leadership. "This is a not a new issue. This just didn't happen today. We've been working on this for months."

    Democratic insiders said that Pelosi and other party leaders were "not rattled" by the GOP floor rebellion, and at this point, it's not clear if the Democrats will even pay a price on energy. State-level polling conducted by Democrats suggests that voters still view President Bush and the GOP as the incumbent power in Washington, and Democratic strategists believe any anti-incumbent wave would hurt Republicans more than Democrats.

    Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas, one of the leaders of the rogue GOP House session, said he realizes that Democrats are "in a four-corners stall right now," and admits that "it gets more challenging" for Republicans if they lose more seats in Congress.

    Democrats are also comforted somewhat by the fact that crude oil prices have gone down more than 10 percent from their summer highs, and if the U.S. economy enters a recession, prices may fall further due to slackening demand.

    "There is no crisis on our side of the aisle," a top House Democratic leadership aide said. "We have a plan, and we will stick to it."

    John Bresnahan and Daniel Reilly contributed to this story

    © 2008 Capitol News Company, LLC

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited August 2008

    That sounds exactly right.  They won't do anything this year on energy, so they can make the rules and keep us hostage to foreign oil for the next 2 1/2 years if they choose to.  And they said Bush was in the Saudi's pockets.  Now look who's jumping in there. 

    The Repuplicans can filibuster till the end of this session, that's all they have in their arsenal to use. They won't allow other legislation, only energy to get voted on and that won't do much to get the Dems to vote on energy.  Which could mean anything can happen to oil prices for the next 6 months or longer.  All we can hope for is come November the people will be so annoyed and frustrated by the Dems inaction that they'll take it out on them at the polls.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Ok so Osama bin Laden's driver is found guilty read what the news said:

    .." The military accused him of transporting missiles for al-Qaida and helping bin Laden escape U.S. retribution following the Sept. 11 attacks by driving him around Afghanistan. Defense attorneys said he was merely a low-level bin Laden employee."

    hello???  Only a low level guy?  This needs to be broadcast:  IF YOU ARE EMPLOYED BY A TERRORIST, YOU ARE A TERRORIST.

    Didn't their mothers tell them that if you go shopping with a friend and they steal, that you both get in trouble?  

    Lessons I learned in Kindergarten!!!!!! 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Here are some pics from Yosemite:

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Our yurt:

    Thankfully, we went before the fires, so the weather was clear for the most part. There were some fires and one day was a little hazy ..... but after we left the fires got a lot closer, we lucked out! We had so much fun and want to go again some day. 

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited October 2008

    Rock, loved the pics! I am really looking forward to visiting Yosemite on our next trip to CA. Don't know when that will be, but my husband loves northern CA so I am sure we will go again. I have some great pics of Pt Reyes and San Fran. but I have no clue how to get them out of my camera (my usb connector is lost, and I can't find one that fits my camera, but I am working on it).

    I finally found the solution to the energy crisis. . . Power outages. We had a storm Monday night and finally got our power back today. Maybe this was a  vast left wing conspiracy. I guess  that does not fit sit I live in demoland. We had so much lightening it was crazy. They said there were almost 80,000 lightening strikes in the Chicago area and 3 tornado touch downs. Even though we had no power, at least the rain was not too heavy and the basement did not flood. The worst part was no water, our pumps do not work without power, and the boredom. I was going to have a nice dinner for my husband but couldn't cook so we just went out for a sandwich. That's okay, I am still holding out for a trip to Provence in the fall, if the airfares drop. My French friends make great meals so we can have a nice one then.

    I am still trying to catch up on everything that happened in the last few days with no TV or computer. I heard the BO is in Indiana possibly pegging BYE. That gets me thinking of a new slogan NOBO and BYE-BI !!Sounds great to me!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Rocktobermom, you pictures are just beautiful!  And you daughter looks so cute in the "Hollywood" sunglasses.  Looks like ya'll had loads of fun!

    Linda, I believe it was Susie who posted on the Hillary thread that California used to use "rolling blackouts."  Soooo, you're idea of  "power outages" isn't too far off track.  I can't remember how much it saved them..you'd have to go over there and read.

    We used to be on well water and which used a pump.  Then we had to spend thousands to hooke up the country water and sewer.  I hated when a hurricane came along and POOF there goes the power.  However, we did have time to prepare...fill the tubs to flush toilets.  Yep, ya gotta flush them once in a while.  We do have a small generator which I think we could use if everything else was turned off.  The good thing about the pump...didn't cost of anything to water.  And, my dh never called out someone to see if they could hook it up to the outside for watering. 

    I love your new slogan!

    Shirley

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited August 2008

    Shirley--Very good find. Hooray Newt!  McCain's commercials should be focusing on oil drilling as a national security issue.  The longer we put off drilling the longer we will be dependent on the Middle East for oil and dictators worldwide. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    And Newt isn't only for drilling..he's for doing EVERYTHING.  The meaning of being energy independent doesn't mean JUST oil.  But if one is realistic we cannot come off of oil completely, or quickly.  So, in the meantime instead of us drilling for our OWN oil we are forced to buy from other nations.  I do believe that we can reduce the usage of oil by a vast amount.

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    I think that along with the need to be self sufficient we limit the money we are literally GIVING to foreign nations that don't agree with our ideology.  I mean, I personally, do avoid purchasing from disreputable businesses and warn others about them. Why don't we do this as a nation!!!??  It's like Cuba, we don't give them money, look at them! They are not a threat to us.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Roctobermom, you really do need to move to ET.  It's 1 am here and 10 pm there. 

    We give so much money to countries and the people do not get it.  It stays in the hands of the dictator.  It's sickening and I know our government MUST know it. 

    I was watching the news one day and right here (and it's no secret) in this country there are people living on the streets in boxes.  They're trying to "clean up" Denver for the dem convention by giving the homeless free tickets to movies and the zoo and who knows what else.  Of course they denied it.

    I don't see homeless people living on the streets very often.  I'm sure we have them around here, but I just don't go to the right places. When I saw that on TV it was upsetting to me.  I saw in in D.C. several years back and I felt so sorry for the man. My dd had to stop me from giving him money.  LOL  And, I would have had to wake him up!

    But ya know..."America is a downright mean country."  Michelle Obama (have to say I'm not sure if that's her exact quote. 

    Shirley

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited August 2008

    McCain seems to only be airing this on the web.  Do you think it would be a problem to be aired on TV or that conservatives would understand?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpcxkKlEFA

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited August 2008

    An Obama classic moment today.........

    Obama: “America is no longer what it once was”

    Hannity will have a field day............

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d667NAI9HIM

    problems with link again

    try this

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/07/obama-america-is-no-longer-what-it-once-was/

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