Newly diagnosed — how do you make peace with it all?

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Melbo
Melbo Member Posts: 346
edited November 2020 in IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)

Newly diagnosed IDC, ER-/PR-/Her2+, Stage IIA — two tumors In left2.9 and 1.0, no nodes identified so far

I was diagnosed a couple of weeks ago, two days before my 42nd birthday, and three months before what was supposed to be an international move to Germany. I was so excited about living in Europe that the breast cancer diagnosis was a side note to my disappointment that I would have to cancel the move.


Now I am finally wrapping my head around the diagnosis and how it will likely affect the rest of my life. When the surgeon first said 85-90% cure rate and a year of treatment, I thought “cool, that’s not so bad — be done in a year.” Of course now I realize that when the cancer world talks about “cure” they really mean 5 years from now. They don’t mean the rest of your life.

How do you shift your perspective? How do you stop thinking about 15 years from now and retirement and maybe moving overseas — but instead you value what you have now? How do you mourn the life you thought you were going to have?

i meet with the oncologist on Tuesday, and I assume once I start chemo I will learn to focus on the day-to-day pretty quick, but right now I’m still working through my acceptance of the situation.


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  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited July 2020

    Hi!

    I'm six years past my diagnosis, and I do think about 15 years from now and my retirement. At the same time, though, I do value what I have now and try to celebrate the small joys of each day. If you're lucky, (and I've been lucky so far), your cancer journey might be a 1-2 year detour on your ultimate path of life.

    My cancer was also HER2+, and its treatment was definitely a marathon and not a sprint. Chemo then surgery, radiation, then a year of Herceptin.... Also, because my cancer was estrogen positive, I've been doing hormonal therapy for five years. But, it's been worth it.

    Yes, I probably would have advanced further in my career if the cancer hadn't come along. I might have traveled more or taken on more projects. But, I'm 53 now, and feel good. Each birthday is a blessing and each day is a chance to watch my kids mature and become more independent.

    ((Hugs))

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited July 2020

    Hi Melbo,

    So sorry about your diagnosis, and no it's not the news you wanted to hear. That said, most of us go through at least one event which changes their life. I am now 11 years out from diagnosis, and have a wonderful life, even with COVID. About to go out and cycle 60 miles. I couldn't feel sorry for myself, having one sister who was born with Down Syndrome and who died at 14, and another sister who is bipolar. This was just as ElaineTherese says, a life detour. Not a fun one to be sure.

    I did lose my dreams for a bit, as I was spending my energy going through treatment. They came back a year later. Then, I needed to dig out of the trifecta of a divorce, breast cancer, and the economic downturn which had affected my income. I got there a couple of years ago. Now, much to my surprise, I am having a career renaissance.

    Since, I am supposed to be "retired", I never would have imagined this would happen.

    One thing that helped me was taking the attitude that I was "cured until proven otherwise". This meant that I focused on living my life, not on being in the unlucky 10%. I was lucky that I was able to cycle throughout treatment, astonishing my oncologist (who had most likely said "yes" to cycling while not really believing I could pull it off). I don't expect you to cycle, but exercise is the single most important thing you can do for yourself throughout treatment and beyond, both for your mental health and for the survival benefit.

    My bicycle beckons. Good luck, and get outdoors if you can. Read up on the benefits of exercise, and walking is fine here. My guess is that the path ahead is a bit different than you imagined, but there is no reason at all that it should be less than fabulous. - Claire

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2020

    It levels out - you get going on treatment, the fear of the unknown starts to fall away, and you gain perspective on what really matters. That last bit sounds cliche but its true - all that career crap, pointless meetings, inane colleagues - at the end of the day your here and now and your health are the important bits which, as you've seen, can all be taken away in a nanosecond.

    What is also going on now is you are mourning for an assumed future and experiences now lost/delayed, loss of innocence of full health, awareness of your own mortality, loss of control, and that fear of the unknown. There is no other way to manage this but to feel that loss, acknowledge it, cry as much as you need to process, and then hike up the panties and go deal. There is no second path - the only way out is through.

    Finally, change your thinking slightly and reframe your situation. You have a really good shot at being cured for a lifetime, or at the very least far beyond five years; some of us didn't even get that chance from diagnosis. Take it as a gift and make the most of it, wherever your path leads next.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited July 2020

    Welcome, Melbo. We're so sorry you find yourself here, we know how difficult it can be to process a diagnosis. But you've come to the right place for support, and we're all here to help support you through this process.

    The Mods

  • beeline
    beeline Member Posts: 308
    edited July 2020

    I agree with what everyone else has said. It is a process and will take time. But don’t assume you can’t move to Germany later. When I was first diagnosed I was sure that all my future plans were off the table. Two years later I am planning again. As YATCOMW says in this amazing post, “BUY THE SHOES!”


    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/67/topics/871796?page=1

  • Melbo
    Melbo Member Posts: 346
    edited July 2020

    Thank you so much for all of your replies. It’s definitely going to be a long-term process rather than instant gratification. I have definitely been reading up in the power of diet and exercise and I have been trying to make sure those things are part of my new normal. We’ll see how that goes once I start chemo, but I plan to at least walk everyday.

  • Redkitty815
    Redkitty815 Member Posts: 44
    edited July 2020

    I echo what everyone else says above. I was diagnosed last November at 43 after not even getting a serious cold for the last 10 years and having zero family history/risk factors. And the cancer was in a node as well as my breast. When my PCP broke the news to me, she urged me to exercise every day, eat more vegetables and eat organic. This plus getting the best treatment available were the things I could control and they gave me a sense of purpose and achievement. I’ve lost nearly 30 pounds and fit into clothes I haven’t been able to wear in years due to these healthy changes NOT cancer.

    My journey hasn’t been linear (I was Her2- at biopsy and positive at surgery so I needed to restart chemo and tack on another year for Herceptin along with hormone therapy for at least 5 years). But it is really, really doable. I was terrified to lose my hair, but once I let go and did, I found that I loved being bald and now rocking an edgy buzz cut look.

    I choose to believe that this is only a chapter in what will otherwise be a long and satisfying book. Her2+ cancer is very treatable and it is important to know that the published long-term survival rates do not take into account all of the newer therapies available today. Your odds are great. And it gets much easier once you are in treatment and have found your rhythm.

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited September 2020

    hello sweetie i was diagnosed at 42 also while making ing wedding plans for our 2nd marriages. First thought i would die had my cry then decided to fight with my faith and Positive thoughts like i Will make it thru this and to have Hope. I prayed for this husband now this No i will fight. Praise God i am this yr a 26 yr Survivor. Hang in there. msphil idc stage2 0/3 nodes 3mo chemo before and after Lmast then after 1 filling in expander i got fever of 103 rush to E R and it was removed my body rejected it so wear prothesis. Then got married then 7wks rads 5yrs on Tamoxifen.

  • Dbloomfi
    Dbloomfi Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2020

    I too am newly diagnosed but my motto has been don’t worry until a doctor tells me to worry. I have been very fortunate that I have a team of doctors and nurses that are wonderful. My surgeon ended up also being a plastic surgeon so the scar isn’t too bad. I don’t think long term so I don’t have to worry about 15 years down the road. I think about what needs to be done today. Today was 4 of 20 of radiation. Good luck!

  • AbbyRhodes3
    AbbyRhodes3 Member Posts: 41
    edited September 2020

    Thanks, @melbo for posting this- and it's wonderful to read the replies. I'm in the same boat as you, and still coming to terms and not very far with that, yet. I'm even afraid that my struggle to accept will affect my results, which - while it's good to be positive and keep the better endorphins going- is a little nonsensical. It discounts the effects/benefits of meds and treatments and the last 20 years of progress.

    I have a counter on my phone, counting down to a date in early January. I had planned to semi-retire on that date. Now it's a countdown to the week before my last chemo - if all goes on schedule. Maybe I'll be fortunate and will work a couple more years and reassess from there.

    I haven't had a cry yet. I'm going to try to achieve that before I head for my first infusion on Wednesday. Onward from there.

    PS: I did already learn one thing from this experience that might help someone younger down the road: Do not share your thoughts/plans on semi-retirement, life changes, etc very widely. I am not sure I'd even have told my immediate family- because they tell friends, who then ask you if you're going to make the leap - when you haven't shared your diagnosis yet. I think of myself as pretty careful with my private info, but I wish I'd been even more so. I'm so tired of that raw nerve getting hammered on this week. :\

  • Melbo
    Melbo Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2020

    Just to check in on this topic since several people have replied. I'm halfway through my chemo treatments now, and dealing with the day-to-day of chemo certainly helps focus me on the here and now. This was the week we were supposed to move to Germany, and while I'm still sad that the move got cancelled, it has definitely taken a back burner to the reality of having breast cancer. To answer my own question now that I'm into the weeds of treatment though, I'm not sure we ever make actual peace with it all. It's cancer and it sucks. For most of us the whole thing came out of nowhere and took over our lives in the worst possible way. We can get used to the changes to our lives, and adjust to the new normal we find ourselves in, but I'm not sure I will ever make peace with it. Cancer is always going to get the side-eye death glare from me, even on the days when I'm mostly okay.

  • Colliesalways
    Colliesalways Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2020

    Hi Melbo, I'm not sure either that there is a way to make peace with something that impacts our lives the way bc does. If there is I haven't found it! To me it's more of a grudging acceptance of something I can't change. It's dealing with it the best way I can, showing up to my appointments, and trying to be positive most days which gets hard sometimes. Now that I am done with active treatment I have found it hard at times to move on. I am trying to learn not to think about it all the time and not to spend time worrying about recurrence. I know that I am sick and tired of thinking about it, I am tired of looking in the mirror and seeing the physical effects of treatment and knowing that side of my body will never look or feel normal to me again. It's a long road and I think for most of us it's always going to be a work in progress.

  • TheBoysMomma
    TheBoysMomma Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2020

    Hi hun. I was diagnosed early Oct 8. I had ny mamm onf Oct 2 and i was convinced it would come back positive. But I have really had the peace of God on this journey because I have accepted it and been A-Ok with it. Its supernatural, I cant even understand it but I know Im going to be ok, Im going to survive and Im going to be a light for others. I've realized that God gave me this because there's a woman out there that couldn't handle this diagnosis but God knew I could and He's using me for his glory. But what I will say is, the one and only time Ive been down about it is when I was told that I wasnt a candidate for immediate recon after my mastectomy. I was beyond devastated to the point this 40 year old woman with a grown child was pouting an threw a tantrum. But that grown child talked me down off the proverbial ledge and talked some sense into me. Im still hurt but just like Ive said about this diagnosis from the start, what are you gonna do about it? If youre a woman of faith, pray. Pray for strength, peace and understanding.

  • TheBoysMomma
    TheBoysMomma Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2020

    Hi hun. I was diagnosed Oct 8. I had my mamm on Oct 2 and I was convinced it would come back positive. But I have really had the peace of God on this journey because I have accepted it and been A-Ok with it since day 1. Its supernatural, I cant even understand it but I know Im going to be ok, Im going to survive and Im going to be a light for others. I've realized that God gave me this because there's a woman out there that couldn't handle this diagnosis but God knew I could and He's using me for his glory. But what I will say is, the one and only time Ive been down about it is when I was told that I wasnt a candidate for immediate recon after my mastectomy. I was beyond devastated to the point this 40 year old woman with a grown child was pouting an threw a tantrum. But that grown child talked me down off the proverbial ledge and talked some sense into me. Something that really helps me is talking about it and reading and watching the stories of beautiful survivors and warriors like Ive found here. It keeps me uplifted. Im not really mourning the life I thought I was going to have but Im having a hard time coming to grips with the scars Ill have and the way Ill look after mast and recon. Yeah, Im having to delay my plans of going back to school but I look at it as another year to work and save money. lol Im still hurt but just like Ive said about this diagnosis from the start, what are you gonna do about it? If youre a woman of faith, pray. Pray for strength, peace and understanding.

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