Metabolic approach

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SD1
SD1 Member Posts: 5
edited March 2020 in Alternative Medicine


Had surgery. Said no to chemo and radiation as my gut told me that I would be a victim of this. I don't detox anything well and when I asked if they could lower the dose at all I got a firm "NO". I did try AI's and I think that was from all the pressure but after 3 weeks the side affects were so bad I swore these off. I did get a standard dose and I only weight 108 . Since then have found I have osteoporosis, and I have memory issues from the first surgery as I never saw anesthesiologist and they gave me standard doses which where high.


I found in research the on the metabolic approach and started doing some of this on my own. Fasting and eating low carbohydrates and using some cholesterol lowering medication . I now have just started with support. Would like to compare notes with others about side effects and support.

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  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited February 2020

    Perhaps some of the people on the COC protocol thread would be good to talk with. COC uses 4 prescription medicines to tackle cancer using a metabolic approach. An anti parasite medicine, mebendazole, an antibiotic, metformin and atorvastatin. See also Jane Mclleland thread.

  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited February 2020

    My wife is doing the 4 treatments and tolerating it pretty well. She had been on Metformin for many years now, having started it on her own for anti cancer. She says no significant side effects, but she does have stomach complaints that may or may not be attributable to the 4 drugs. As per COC, two of the drugs are on alternate months. Luckily no problems with her combining the statin with the palbociclib so far.

  • SD1
    SD1 Member Posts: 5
    edited February 2020

    Thank you. Tonight’s and prayers for your wife

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited February 2020

    SD1, I haven't read up on metabolic approaches for cancer lately but it was something that interested me very much before it became a thing 12 years ago when I got to NED after 5 cycles of chemo. My doctor prescribed metformin at some point and I took it for a month before deciding I couldn't tolerate the side effects: constipation and muscle weakness. I did intermittent fasting 10 years ago for a whole year with a 17-18 hour fasting window. I started eating low carb in the sense of minimal sugar, pasta, bread and potatoes but lots of veggies. Maybe that was a low carb Mediterranean diet? I was exercising daily in a fasted state to extend the effective energy deficit, including high intensity interval training / Tabata workouts. My personal trainer then had not heard of it and started using it with his other clients based on his experience with me. Because I was on Femara, I was also religious about maintaining my bone density through weight training, where my hope was that the need for muscles to have energy to lift progressively heavier weights would compete metabolically with cancer's energy needs. Research is still not definitive on all this but is moving in this direction I believe.

  • SD1
    SD1 Member Posts: 5
    edited February 2020

    Thanks for your reply. I am doing the intermittent fasting 14-16 hours along with low carb diet and metformim. Sounds you were ahead of the pack in understanding the value. Just got onboard with care oncology protocol couple days ago and hoping for good support there. The time release metformin feels much better started yesterday. I can’t exercise as much right now (plantar fasiatus)but will get back to it. No matter what you use seems to have impact on your health good and bad because you are after getting rid of the virus. Just read about dr colleen Huber this morning. Want to find vitamin c treatment, not anything close to me. No matter what you use this gets expensive. You have to let go of all previous values and ideas when it comes to money, it is your life. Use to refuse to spend money on simple things. It can feel out controlbut will be in the short duration hopefully.

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited March 2020

    SD1, you said you’re having trouble exercising due to plantar fasciitis but I have an answer for that...a rebounder, like a mini trampoline. I bought it when I got my cancer dx, because it’s the very best exercise for cleaning the lymph channels and I was really enjoying it, and one day about a week later I noticed that my feet didn’t hurt anymore. A friend complained about his so I told him about my new bellicon so he bought one too and he is still singing my praises. As mentioned, I bought a bellicon and was very happy with it but there are several good brands on the market and even top of the line models are inexpensive when compared to other types of fitness equipment. I recommend jumping to your favorite bouncy music.

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