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Kathryn1894
Kathryn1894 Member Posts: 5
edited January 2018 in Not Diagnosed But Worried

I had an abnormal mammogram with a follow up ultrasound. Know I am scheduled for a biopsy next week. Not sure what to expect but am worried. My lump is 9mm is that large. I have follow up to get results a week after biops

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  • Rrobin0200
    Rrobin0200 Member Posts: 433
    edited January 2018

    if my math is correct, .9mm equates to less than 1cm... small. Try not to panic. Let us know if you have any further questions. We're here for you. This site is incredible!! Prayers for B9 results.

  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited January 2018

    No, that is not large. A bit less than a cm. Most BIRAD4 come back B9. 80%

    Try not to worry. Most women in their life time if they have been faithful at getting mammograms will have at least 1 biopsy done. It's more of a prudent measure.

  • Kathryn1894
    Kathryn1894 Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2018

    thank you Marie589

  • Kathryn1894
    Kathryn1894 Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2018

    What does B9 mea

  • Georgia1
    Georgia1 Member Posts: 1,321
    edited January 2018

    Hi Kathryn. We use b9 for "benign" or "not cancer."

  • EllaC
    EllaC Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2018

    I also had an abnormal mammogram (architectural distortion about 2 cm), very vague on ultrasound and I'll have a biopsy on the 17th (BIRAD 4). My question is….how many sample will they take? I was reading the internet and some people say 1 sample, others are saying 4 samples. Would you please share your own experience with the biopsy?

  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited January 2018

    I had a vacuum assisted stereotactic biopsy so it rapidly took about 12 samples. The tissue samples are quite small.

  • EllaC
    EllaC Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2018

    Thank you, Marie! I will also have stereotactic breast biopsy, but unfortunately, I forgot to ask if is core needle or vacuum-assisted. I will call for sure in the morning.

  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited January 2018

    They are the same :)


  • Kathryn1894
    Kathryn1894 Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2018

    I will gladly share mine is on the 17th also. Sending prayers your way

  • suzydthatisme
    suzydthatisme Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2018

    My screening mammogram and subsequent tomosynthesis also showed architectural distortion and they took 5 samples from the area during the biopsy.  They freeze you with the same stuff that they use at the dentist and honestly the biopsy was easier than a dental procedure.  I felt no pain at the sight during or after.   My biopsy showed abnormal cells so they did a diagnostic lumpectomy (which wasn't bad, either) and in the end they found DCIS (stage 0 breast cancer).  I didn't need any further treatment.....just yearly mammograms and 6 month follow-ups with an oncologist.  My experience with the biopsy and lumpectomy was painless - it's just the fear that gets the best of us.  

  • djmammo
    djmammo Member Posts: 2,939
    edited January 2018

    EllaC

    All stereotactic units employ a vacuum assisted biopsy device, that is the way they were designed. Hand held US guided core biopsies can be vacuum assisted but there are spring loaded devices (they make a snapping noise) and are lighter easier and faster to use (my personal preference).

    With an 18g spring loaded device I would routinely take 5 samples which would take under 2 minutes. With stereo I would initially take 6 samples with an 11g needle then x-ray them. If I retrieved enough of the target I would stop there, if not i would take another 6. In my experience surgeons who do stereo bx use bigger needles and take more samples than radiologists.

  • momto3sons
    momto3sons Member Posts: 311
    edited January 2018

    suzy - did you have an u/s after the mammogram?

    I was recommended for a biopsy after AD showed up on my 3D diagnostic mammogram, but the u/s didn't show the AD. The dr also didn't feel a lump, so she wouldn't do the biopsy yet. We're waiting to see if insurance approves a breast MRI.

  • EllaC
    EllaC Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2018

    Thank you, guys, for your responses. I was under the impression that each needle insertion will take one sample, so 5 sample, 5 holes ☹. I eventually called the hospital and they were nice enough to transfer me to a technician and she told me that I will have a core needle biopsy that is vacuum assisted, meaning only one insertion but multiple samples will be taken. I got to stay off the internet/Google, there is too much info and some is conflicting. Thank you again!

  • EllaC
    EllaC Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2018

    @momto3sons:

    I had an US after the diagnostic mammogram. My US did not show the AD, or any other mass, ductal inflammation, no lump to be felt, etc. So, the radiologist said I must have the biopsy to rule out/confirm cancer. He did not mention MRI to me, but I would have probably refuse it due to too much radiation, plus for dense heterogeneous breasts it does not give that great of results.

  • momto3sons
    momto3sons Member Posts: 311
    edited January 2018

    @EllaC - my doctor was the one pushing for the MRI (which I'm shocked did get approved!), as she didn't want to biopsy without having a better picture of what we might be dealing with.

    Good luck with your biopsy!

  • djmammo
    djmammo Member Posts: 2,939
    edited January 2018

    EllaC

    No matter what device is used there always only one hole in the skin.

  • Kathryn1894
    Kathryn1894 Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2018

    sorry for such a late reply. I had a core biopsy performed. It was really quite simple, they numbed the site on the Breast took 3 samples, put steri strips on a compression like dressing and I was off. The only thing was I went back to work instead of home and within two hours I had quite a bit of swelling and pain. I defiantly recommend going home and applying ice

  • EllaC
    EllaC Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2018

    They took 12 vacuum assisted core biopsies for me. It was fast, but I had a little too much bleeding. I needed to dress the wound and change the strips the next day. After about 5-6 hours I had a terrible shoulder pain, but I decided to go to sleep and forget about it. In the meantime, I received my results. It is "non-proliferative fibrocystic change showing focally prominent stromal fibrosis". They said that is benign and I should not worry, go back in 1 year for regular 3D mammogram. I hope you all get good results!

  • momto3sons
    momto3sons Member Posts: 311
    edited January 2018

    That's great news Ella! Although sorry to hear about the pain and bleeding - that's rough!

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