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moth

2019whatayear - one arm just got chemo, the other arms were getting chemo and the trilaciclib either on same day or the trilo a day ahead.

" 34 to group 1 (GCb on days 1 and 8), 33 to group 2 (trilaciclib and GCb on days 1 and 8), and 35 to group 3 (trilaciclib days 1 and 8, and trilaciclib and GCb on days 2 and 9). "

GCb = gemcitabine plus carboplatin

full text is here https://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/cli...

2019whatayear

thanks moth. Damn

BSandra

Yes 2019whatayear, chemo, but still... another promising combo/line for mTNBC, and we always want more of them! The plots (group 2: OS not reached!!!) are simply "music to my ears". Saulius

2019whatayear

Oh Saulius so not reached in this case means participants in group 2 are still out there living life?

moth

Gene expression profiles of breast cancer metastasis according to organ site

https://febs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/1...

this study looked at the genes in various metastatic sites to determine if expression was same or different. Lots of interesting tidbits but also pretty familiar results regarding OS

"Median OS was 63.8 months in patients with HR+/HER2-negative disease, 35.5 months in patients with HER2+ disease, and 22.1 months in patients with TNBC"

"Median OS was 99.7 months for luminal A, 63.6 for luminal B, 34.7 months for HER2-enriched, and 22.4 months for basal-like."

Lumpie

Thought I would post this here in case anyone is interested:

The eReach Study: A Randomized Study of an eHealth Delivery Alternative for Cancer Genetic Testing for Hereditary Predisposition in Metastatic Breast, Ovarian, Prostate and Pancreatic Cancer Patients.

The University of Pennsylvania is conducting the eReach Study to look at how to best help cancer patients understand and get genetic testing.

If you live in the United States and have metastatic breast cancer, metastatic prostate cancer, advanced pancreatic cancer, or advanced ovarian cancer, and you haven't had genetic testing for a hereditary cancer syndrome, you may be eligible to receive free genetic counseling by participating in the eReach Study.

Read more here:

https://redcap.med.upenn.edu/surveys/?s=MY7H37TM7W...

Lumpie

Cancer treatment may inhibit immune response to COVID-19 vaccination

January 20, 2022

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — A study by researchers at Mayo Clinic Cancer Center has found that patients with cancer who receive chemotherapy ― and some targeted therapies, such as CDK4/6 inhibitors and therapies targeted at B cells ― may mount an inadequate immune response to COVID-19 vaccination. The findings are published in Mayo Clinic Proceedings: Innovation, Quality & Outcomes.

"It is important for patients with cancer who are receiving chemotherapy to receive a COVID-19 vaccine," says Saranya Chumsri, M.D., a Mayo Clinic hematologist and oncologist, and author of the paper. Dr. Chumsri says this advice also applies to patients with cancer who are taking a CDK 4/6 inhibitors. These inhibitors are a newer class of medicines used to treat hormone-receptor-positive and HER2-negative breast cancers.

Dr. Chumsri says that while CDK 4/6 inhibitors are not conventionally considered to be as immunosuppressive as chemotherapy, her research on patients with breast cancer who take these drugs found that they exhibited less optimal neutralizing antibody activity. Dr. Chumsri recommends that antibody levels be tested in these patients after vaccination, and they should consider receiving booster vaccinations for COVID-19.

Dr. Chumsri anticipates having additional data later this year regarding broader immune responses to COVID-19 vaccinations, including cellular and antibody responses in patients receiving chemotherapy and targeted therapies with booster vaccinations.

Read it here: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/canc...

Research published here: https://www.mcpiqojournal.org/article/S2542-4548(21)00173-9/fulltext (pre-publication proof)

DOI: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mayocpiqo.2021.12.004

{I note that this says "Chumsri recommends that antibody levels be tested in these patients after vaccination..." I have not found docs willing to order this test, chiefly because they state that the information is not actionable/they don't know what to do with it. Perhaps as evidence accumulates, this approach will change. There is a self-pay/self-help test available through LabCorp. It seems semi-actionable to me: I realized it is no guarantee, but if antibodies are low, one would know to be especially careful about risk and exposure. Access to all sources free of charge as of posting.}

Anonymous

yes, I went and got the LabCorp antibody test on my own, just to make sure I had developed antibodies. My count was in the 300s

Lumpie

I got the LabCorp test, too. Mine were >2500. No guarantee, but I was pleased and relieved.

cowgal

Did your doctor give you the antibody test or is this an at home test kit?

Anonymous

I registered on the lab Corp website. Their doctor writes the order and you go to a Lab Corp location for the blood draw.

Covered by myinsurance except for the small website fee $15 I think it was.

Link - https://www.labcorp.com/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/individuals/antibody-test

Lumpie wow >2500 that's great. My sister did hers at the same time and her result was over 700. My infusion nurse said hers was only in the 200s

Lumpie

Ditto. My doc would not prescribe, that is why I did the "no order in hand" option through LabCorp. As Olma61 says, register, if you have not already done so, on LabCorp's site. Then you have to find the correct test. It can be a little tricky. You can find it in the test menu (one of the tabs near the top of the main page). Their doc will write the Rx for the test if your doc has not provided one. They charged me a $6 fee for that service. It is not an at home test. You must go to LabCorp for a blood draw. Results are delivered through the LabCorp website. Interestingly, my insurance did pay for the test. I wa surprised.

Test name is "SARS-CoV-2 Semi-Quant Total Ab" (if seacrching by name, I had to shorten the name to "SARS-CoV-2 Semi-Quant" to get anything to come up.)

Test # is 164090

There is another very similarly named test for IgG rather than "total" antibodies. The descriptions do not make it entirely clear why you'd want total rather than IgG. I had the impression that back before the vaccines, the IgG test was an indicator of prior but cleared infection. I suppose the "total" test might count IgM, too. But I am not entirely sure about this reasoning/analysis. I ordered the above because it made sense to me and was the one that was recommended through my local MBC cancer buddies network.

Note: I have been advised that you should wait at least 30 after getting a vaccine or booster to have this test. I waited >90 days.

I was very pleased with the >2500, especially since I am on active chemo. An MBC buddy said hers were around 900. She is not on active chemo but gets a targeted therapy and is otherwise in good health. I think that some of the hard-to-account for discrepancies in results are one reason clinicians have some concerns about relying too heavily on this test. I think it is fair to say it just gives us a sense of where we are on a given day.... and it is a snapshot since the studies seem to be indicating that our immunity may wane over time... hense all the boosters....

Good luck and stay healthy out there!

cowgal

Thanks for the information Lumpie and Olma61

Nkb

How do you know if you are Luminal A or Luminal B or other ?

thanks

Anonymous

this article helps explain those subtypes

https://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/types/molecular-subtypes

Nkb

olma61-thanks. Very clear article, a k67 was never done on my original cancer biopsy, so I guess I am never going to know whether mine is A or B.

HomeMom

Nkb me either, but it did say that A is typically lower grade, which mine was, so I'm assuming I'm A. Not much difference between A & B anyway

Lumpie

Nkb, I always understood that if you are hormone positive and HER2 negative, you are Luminal A; hormone positive and HER2 positive, you are Luminal B. You probably know that from your patho report. I suppose that if you are HER2 negative with high levels of Ki-67, but they did not comment on Ki-67 in your patho report, that could present a twist (uncertainty), but in most cases, I think your patho report will give you this info. Things change over time, especially with the emergence of genomic analysis, so maybe this is over- simplified. Hope you find some certainty/reassurance.

Nkb

Lumpie- thanks. At the appt to discuss the path report (10 years ago) I asked about k67 and the surgeon said it wasn’t done. That they weren’t doing them as much. I heard that many MOs don’t find them as consistent so don’t do them. I was Her2 negative but recently looked again and was 2+ so basically Her 2 low.

I’m not stressed, just curious. The only mutation I have that Iknow of (CCND1) wasn’t listed in the article- but, overall super interesting article.

jennyjo20

Nkb, did they ever test your HER2 by FISH? Mine was also 2+ by IHC so they sent it for further analysis by a more sophisticated test “FISH”. I was still in the grey zone and had several pathologists weigh in on whether I’d benefit from HER2 targeted therapy, ultimately it was decided that I should be treated as negative. If they never tested your HER2 status beyond the equivocal 2+, that might be something to ask your MO about. The HER2 targeted therapies have experienced great advancements and so it seems more important than ever to take a closer look at cases that might be positive by FISH

moth

There is some overlap between the luminals & hormone markers but it's not a 100%. for ex this study below found that some triple negs were not basal.

& in metastatic cancer, there is a difference in survival curves for luminal a, luminal b and basal

"Median OS was 99.7 months for luminal A, 63.6 for luminal B, 34.7 months for HER2-enriched, and 22.4 months for basal-like."

https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/73/topics...

santabarbarian

Triple Neg has other subtypes too... 4-6 depending who is grouping them. If you go a genetic assay scattergram you can see the clusters of the different types but multiple genes control it.

basal-like 1 (BL1), basal-like 2 (BL2), mesenchymal (M), mesenchymal stem–like (MSL), immunomodulatory (IM), and luminal androgen receptor (LAR)

Nkb

JennyJo20- yes, they FISH tested it and it was negative.

I’ve heard that Herceptin is very weak compared to for example Enhertu- and doesn’t work on Her 2 low- but Enhertu works on about 35% of Her2 low.

My UCSF second option MO says in biopsying again for an Enhertu study no one who was 2+ at primary turned negative although some 1+ people did.

Interesting about all the triple negative subtypes.

Lumpie

Probiotic Supplement Attenuates Chemotherapy-Related Cognitive Impairment in Patients With Breast Cancer

• This randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial showed that a probiotic supplement attenuated the incidence of chemotherapy-related cognitive impairment (CRCI) in patients with stage I–III breast cancer who underwent chemotherapy. No measurable side effects were found during the treatment. Disease-free survival and death rates in the probiotic group were slightly better numerically but not significantly than those in the placebo group.
• Probiotic supplementation during chemotherapy is a simple, inexpensive, safe, and effective intervention for the prevention of CRCI. Impact on long-term outcomes or survival warrants further trial study with a large sample size.

Reporting: https://www.practiceupdate.com/c/128541/67/13/?els...

Article: European Journal of Cancer

Probiotic supplement attenuates chemotherapy-related cognitive impairment in patients with breast cancer: a randomised, double-blind, and placebo-controlled trial

Eur. J. Cancer 2022 Jan 01;161(xx)10-22, Z Juan, J Chen, B Ding, L Yongping, K Liu, L Wang, Y Le, Q Liao, J Shi, J Huang, Y Wu, D Ma, W Ouyang, J TongDOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ejca.2021.11.006Abstract: https://www.ejcancer.com/article/S0959-8049(21)01216-8/fulltext{Reporting and abstract: free access; full journal article requires fee or subscription. IDK about you, but any news about improving on chemo brian is welcome to me! I have been taking a probiotic to help with intestinal distress for almost a year now. It has helped my intestinal situation dramatically. My chemo brain has also improved. I thouht it was time/coincidence, but maybe the probiotic is improving things.}

debbew

A new paper has been published about ErSO. From the abstract...

"While ErSO has promise as a new drug, it has effects on ERα-negative (ERα−) cells in certain contexts. Herein, we construct modified versions of ErSO and identify variants with enhanced differential activity between ERα+ and ERα– cells. We report ErSO-DFP, a compound that maintains antitumor efficacy, has enhanced selectivity for ERα+ cancer cells, and is well tolerated in rodents."

Unfortunately, still no signs it will make it into clinical trials in the near term.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jmedchem.1c01...

Lumpie

New mammogram measures of breast cancer risk could revolutionise screening

Abstract/What's new? dtd 16 November 2020

Mammographic density, or the area of the mammogram which appears white or bright, has well-established associations with breast cancer risk. The authors call this Cumulus due to the computer-assisted technique for measuring that density. Here, the authors introduce two novel measurement techniques, Cirrus and Cirrocumulus, for extracting risk information from mammograms. Cirrocumulus is based on image brightness and Cirrus is based on texture. When combined, these measures substantially improve risk prediction beyond that of Cumulus. In addition, the new risk measures outperformed the recently published polygenic risk score. By obtaining more information from mammograms, these tools could improve personalized risk recommendations for screening.

Reporting: dtd 23 Dec 2020

World-first techniques for predicting breast cancer risk from mammograms that were developed in Melbourne could revolutionise breast screening by allowing it to be tailored to women at minimal extra cost.

Published in the International Journal of Cancer, the University of Melbourne-led study found two new mammogram-based measures of risk. When these measures are combined, they are more effective in stratifying women in terms of their risk of breast cancer than breast density and all the known genetic risk factors.

Researchers say if successfully adopted, their new measures could substantially improve screening, make it more effective in reducing mortality and less stressful for women, and therefore encourage more to be screened. They could also help address the problem of dense breasts.

Since the late 1970s, scientists have known that women with denser breasts, which shows up on a mammogram as having more white or bright regions, are more likely to be diagnosed with breast cancer and to have it missed at screening.

Collaborating with Cancer Council Victoria and BreastScreen Victoria, University of Melbourne researchers were the first to study other ways of investigating breast cancer risk using mammograms.

Using computer programs to analyse mammogram images of large numbers of women with and without breast cancer, they found two new measures for extracting risk information. Cirrocumulus is based on the image's brightest areas and Cirrus on its texture.

First, they used a semi-automated computer method to measure density at the usual, and successively higher levels of brightness to create Cirrocumulus. They then used artificial intelligence (AI) and high-speed computing to learn about new aspects of the texture (not brightness) of a mammogram that predict breast cancer risk and created Cirrus.

When their new Cirrocumulus and Cirrus measures were combined, they substantially improved risk prediction beyond that of all other known risk factors.

Lead researcher and University of Melbourne Professor John Hopper said that in terms of understanding how much women differ in their risks of breast cancer, these developments could be the most significant since the breast cancer genes BRCA1 and BRCA2 were discovered 25 years ago.

"These measures could revolutionise mammographic screening at little extra cost, as they simply use computer programs," Professor Hopper said.

"The new measures could also be combined with other risk factors collected at screening, such as family history and lifestyle factors, to provide an even stronger and holistic picture of a woman's risk.

"Tailored screening – not 'one size fits all' – could then be based on accurately identifying women at high, as well as low, risk so that their screening can be personalised.

"Given mammography is now digital, and our measures are now computerised, women could be assessed for their risk at the time of screening – automatically – and given recommendations for their future screening based on their personal risk, not just their age."

Professor Hopper said this information could be used to ease pressure on BreastScreen, which had to close for a period during the COVID-19 pandemic and is looking for ways to best handle the backlog while continuing to provide a valuable service with limited resources.

He said the current breakthrough could not have occurred without the extraordinary support his mammogram research had received from the National Breast Cancer Foundation, starting with its first funding round more than 20 years ago.

"Only around 55 per cent of Australian women aged 50-74 currently present for screening aimed at detecting breast cancers early," he said.

"Knowing that screening could also give an accurate risk prediction could encourage more women to take up the offer of free screening. Women with high risk based on their mammogram would also benefit greatly from also knowing their genetic risk."

Adjunct Associate Professor Helen Frazer, Clinical Director of St Vincent's BreastScreen Melbourne, said that improvements in assessing a woman's risk of breast cancer would be transformative for screening programs.

"Using AI developments to assess risk and personalise screening could deliver significant gains in the fight against breast cancer," Adjunct Associate Professor Frazer said.

The study involved participants in the Melbourne Collaborative Cohort Study run by Cancer Council Victoria, and the Australian Breast Cancer Family Study and Twins Research Australia run from the University of Melbourne.

Participating women filled out a questionnaire and allowed researchers to access their mammograms from BreastScreen, with other providers or their own copies.

This work was conducted by Dr Kevin Nguyen at the University of Melbourne, whose ground-breaking PhD uncovered the Cirrocumulus measure, and is a continuing collaboration with researchers from Seoul National University in South Korea.

Researchers from Monash University, University of Hawaii Cancer Center, University of Pisa and University of Western Australia also contributed to the study.

Reporting: https://about.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2020/de...

Abstract: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ijc.33...

Journal: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/i...

https://doi.org/10.1002/ijc.33396

{Abstract and reporting are free. Full journal article requires fee or subscription.}

LaughingGull

Anthracyclines for HER2+ Breast Cancer: Are We Ready to Let Them Go?

"The role of anthracyclines for early HER2-positive BC appears limited in an era of highly effective HER2-directed therapies. De-escalation of (neo)adjuvant regimens is possible and safe, by using paclitaxel and trastuzumab or trastuzumab emtansine for small tumors and by using taxane- and platinum-based neoadjuvant regimens for larger tumors, including those with high-risk features.

Omitting anthracyclines can result in a substantial reduction in potential serious toxicities, while still achieving optimal treatment outcomes. Several additional de-escalation trials are currently ongoing and may allow for even further reduction in toxicity of treatment, ultimately allowing us to maximize the benefit of chemotherapy while minimizing its undesired impact on the quality of life of our patients."

https://www.medpagetoday.com/reading-room/asco/bre...

2019whatayear

That sounds very exciting Laughing Gull, I hope that is the case!

Lumpie

A New Solution for Long-COVID Brain Fog?

Noninvasive brain stimulation (NIBS) that uses alternating microcurrents appears to rapidly and effectively improve cognitive and visual deficits related to "long COVID," a small case series shows.

SARS-CoV-2 infections impair blood flow to the eyes and brain, causing visual and cognitive deficits, and the stimulation restores normal blood flow....

"Oxygen and glucose is delivered again to nerve cells, so they can do their job of firing electric signals to the brain, and the patient can think better, their cognition is better, and their vision is improved."

The benefits for those affected with long-term cognitive problems occur within days.... "This Is the fastest solution that I'm aware of ― much faster than with the standard neurological rehabilitation."

The study was published in a recent issue of Restorative Neurology and Neuroscience.

Reporting: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/968290#vp_1

Journal article: https://content.iospress.com/articles/restorative-...

DOI: 10.3233/RNN-211249

{This is about covid brain fog, but anybody who says "brain fog" has my attention. Makes me wonder if these therapies could help those of us suffereing from chemo-related brain fog as well. We must hope (and perhaps advocate) for clinical trials. Access to reporting and journal article are both without charge. Reporting may require registration.}

YesIamaDragon

That caught my eye too in terms of chemo brain, but it was a study of only two patients. Something to investigate further for sure.