Camel Urine and milk anti cancer

Husband11

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1534735416...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22922085

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28949782

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26434890

https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/therapeuti...

cive

Sure, I'll add the camel urine to my coffee in the morning... What a wonderful start to your day.

mustlovepoodles

I wonder, does Whole Foods stock camel milk and camel urine? Who comes up with this stuff?

Sara536

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Husband11

Apparently the Eastern practice of treating various diseases with camel milk and camel urine predates the Quran, and is actually described in the Quran. The results of the research on mice implanted with breast cancer cells is quite encouraging. The mice given camel urine had 1/3 of the amount of metastasis to the lungs as the control group. And with no ill effects to mouse or human, assuming the urine is disease free. You never know where the breakthrough in treatment could come from, and this sounds like its a lot easier on the body than chemotherapy. It's good to see people thinking outside the conventional, and examining ancient practices scientifically.

Icietla

Husband11, there is a good deal of scientific knowledge in the Quran, but no, nothing like that. Perhaps in some Hadith.

Husband11

Yes, thanks for the correction. I obviously have little understanding of Islam. It is in a Hadith (narrative of Muhammad), rather than the Quran.

Icietla

You are welcome.

Sara536

Hey, let's not ignore something so promising just because it is totally disgusting! Now, if alpacas were being studied, I could go for that! They are related to camels, cuter than camels, closer to human size, have extremely soft fleece, and have more amiable personalities. We have many alpaca farms right here in the U.S. Some even have guest accommodations and sales rooms full of alpaca sweaters and blankets. Maybe they could add alpaca pee to their juice bars. Why wait another 40 years to completely prove anything? Who has that kind of time? You know the pharma companies will fight this tooth and nail...

cp418

Very interesting about camel "products". I would have much preferred treatments with camel urine and milk over IV chemotherapy.

Sara536

Or AIs.

MTwoman

So let me toss this out to the group, but first let me caveat that I haven't had a chance to thoroughly read the citations listed above, so apologies if this is covered. If both a) camel milk and camel urine are "anti-cancer" and b) they are consumed as a regular practice in specific countries or area of countries are true, then it would be expected that cancer incidence in these countries or areas are lower. But I've never read that the incidence rates are different in various countries or parts of countries. I am all about finding treatments and or prophylactic protocols wherever they exist, no matter how gross; but it's hard to believe that something used for so long by a subpopulation wouldn't be noticed in population based prevalence data. Is my logic flawed?

cp418

No - your logic makes perfect sense. The unknown in this population are all the details for how much and long a person consumed these products and what was their outcome. It appears none of that information was ever collected. However, these camel products have obviously caught the attention of cancer researchers to pursue further. I didn't read the articles closely either so maybe by concentrating these products it might increase their effectiveness. We need better treatments with less side effects and better efficacy then what patients currently are given. Tamoxifen has been around already for over 40 years. Really. We are long overdue. I'm not holding my breath for preventative vaccines or ones to prevent progression......

Husband11

Good question MTwoman. It's possible that the group of people self treating with such ancient methods have eschewed conventional medicine, or do not have it available to them, and thus are uncharted by medical science.

Here's some good quotes from the research:

By the end of the treatment period, the tumor in both treated groups had reduced in size as compared to the control group. Additional assays such as the TUNEL assay, immunophenotyping, cytokine level detection assay, clonogenic assay, and proteome profiler demonstrated the capability of camel urine to reduce and inhibit the metastatic potential of 4T1 cells in vivo. To sum up, further study of anticancer properties of camel urine is justified, as evidenced through the in vitro and in vivo studies carried out. Better results were obtained at higher concentration of camel urine used in vivo. Apart from that, this project has laid out the mechanisms employed by the substance to inhibit the growth and the metastatic process of the 4T1 cell.

The capability of camel urine in inhibiting the growth and metastatic potential of 4T1 cells was investigated in this study, and Figure 11 summarizes the effects of camel urine on 4T1 breast cancer cells. Based on the results presented, it is safe to make assumptions that it is capable of inducing cell death of 4T1 cells through DNA fragmentation and regulation of inflammation-related genes. Apart from that, camel urine was also able to disrupt the metastatic mechanism of 4T1 cells through the downregulation of several angiogenesis-related proteins. Hence, it has a potential to be further developed as an anticancer agent for cancer treatment.

from another of the above:

CONCLUSIONS:

CU has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties in vitro.

another study from above, mice only, pretty impressive inhibition of metastasis to the lungs, 60 colonies average in the untreated mice, 12 average in the high dose treated. That is 1/5th the amount of metastasis as the control group:

Camel Urine Exhibited Antimetastatic Potential In Vivo

Clonogenic assay was carried out in order to determine the ability of camel urine to disrupt the metastatic potential of the 4T1 cancer cell. Based on Figure 9A, there was significant reduction in the number of colonies formed in the lung of the treated mice as compared to the control mice. About 26 ± 2.31 colonies were formed in the lung of the low-dose treated mice while mice in the high-dose group produced a better result with only 12 ± 1.53 colonies formed as compared to 60.33 ± 9.82 colonies formed in the lung of the control mice