Vitamin C and antibiotics: knocking-out cancer stem cells.

wallycat

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/06/1706...

cp418

I've come across similar articlesin the past when researching Doxycycline for Lyme dx. I find it very disappointing that it takes so many years for any progress in treatments. We still use drugs from 40+ years ago because they have not been replaced for something better.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25625193

Anonymous

I wonder how the antibiotics and the Vit C was administered. My naturopath offers IV Vit. C infusions, and I always wondered if that treatment was really worth the cost.

wallycat

The doc I worked for does the C infusions and has had good results, but since we have moved and I no longer work there, I don't know all the specifics. I did just recently send him an article that showed positive outcomes. My curiosity is, if we are NED, should we be poking the beast? Agree with CP418, we need newer, better, stuff and more research into what we have.

Anonymous

I know Vit C infusion can be relatively expensive, and insurance won't cover payment. The work-up I got from the naturopathic oncologist I saw in Phoenix the year after my tx ended recommended infusions (not accompanied by antibiotics, however). He also recommended Pecta-sol (citrus pectin), and that alone is really expensive. I can only take it a few times a week.

Right now I'm just trying to do low-cost approaches: keep my weight down in the 20% BMI range, meditate to relieve anxiety (it is helping), yoga, limit exposure to parabens,do lots of regular cardio exercise that generates free-radicals, eat organic, little to no meat or dairy, mostly plant-based, and take aspirin, other supplements, and my AI every day. I've always hated the knowledge that even if I do all these "best practices" for years, I still run the risk of recurrence. But it's the world I have to try to live in now.

wallycat

Claireinaz, did he recommend Pecta-sol for any specific reason? Would apple pectin be interchangeable? Fairly reasonably priced out there (most people use it for joint pain).

I hear you....my old refrain is that I was low-fat vegetarian, exercised 2 hours/day, ate organic, BMI 19, and took supplements and got cancer anyway....would aspirin have helped? Would skipping dairy have helped? I don't think we know. I'm doing less of what I did and trying to switch things up, so my BMI is higher (my face would look horrible if I lost more weight, never mind it is getting harder and harder to keep what I'm at!), I pick and choose organic, I eat full fat and more of it and I added meditation. But you are right, even if we do everything "right," there's no guarantee so for all the gals that post "quality of life," that is my mantra...don't be stupid with health decisions but live life to enjoy it too.

Anonymous

Wallycat, we don't know what causes that damned disease: exactly! . I just saw a post on my FB feed from my own naturopathic clinic trying to make a weak link between stress and cancer. And I'm so sick of those types of links--for me it just poses that old tired argument that we've caused our own cancer by simply living. Yes, I have had major stresses in my life--I'm 58 years old, for Pete's sake. I lost my late husband to cancer when I was 37 and we had only been married a few months; I had a scary rare condition called a pheochromocytoma that nearly took my life 10 years ago ( I self-diagnosed after about 5 years of symptoms and stupid doctors). I lost my job and then right after that my now husband went to Iraq for a year. Etc etc. blah blah. Did I ask for those stresses? Seek them out? Could I have done anything about them, as though I invited them into my life? Sometimes it's just infuriating.

What I'm realizing is that the choices I'm making now are for my quality of life NOW. I didn't cause my cancer, and I won't ever really know what did.

Anyway (end of semi-rant). Citrus pectasol anti-tumor growth link, below. Doesn't say anything about any other kind of modified pectin; it seems to have to be modified citrus. Looks like (through my quick research) there's a clinical trial underway right now to test this in humans for cancer tx.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC27824...

https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medi...