Bacon and other processed meats can cause cancer, experts say

sas-schatzi

OH MY DOG Melissa, too funny.

Glennie and Ellelou, Total went by me. Love music, but life long hearing loss. Singers words are totally lost on me.BUT the two of you have found each other

Barred Owl, right clarification after pissing off the world. Probably won't hear anything on the news. Thanks though for posting the link.

sas-schatzi

They produced a document that doesn't make clear connections.

Italychick

Melissa, I would totally eat that whole thing!

Bacon!

MelissaDallas

I decided I wanted some booze with my bacon & sausage Sas

sas-schatzi

Melissa, I'll join you

Ellelou

Just stick a big piece of bacon in your bloody Mary this morning.

sas-schatzi

Is the tomato & vodka on WHO's list? Probably. Okay, Bloody Mary's it is with bacon, celery, egg, and olive

cp418

In NJ, nothing beats a good breakfast sandwich of grilled porkroll, egg and cheese on a roll.

https://www.google.com/search?q=image+pork+roll+eg...

sas-schatzi

Yum, I'll take this one

SelenaWolf

Oh, good gawd, that looks good.

BarredOwl

That sandwich would nicely satisfy my wish for both bacon and high fat dairy.

BarredOwl

glennie19

bacon, egg and cheese on a croissant,,,,, hmmmmmmmm

sas-schatzi

Now that we have dissed the WHO document for not analyzing well and creating a rukus with their document, They're some studies that do address polycylic aromatic hydrocarbons(PAH's). PAH's have been found in breast tissue as well as some other tissues. I was doing some reading while waiting for folks to come along with their weight experiences on this thread. Skim down to the posts that start talking about PAH's and read the links mentioned.

https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/73/topics/832722?page=1

leftduetostupidmods

I call utter BS, and see this as what it is: just another "fad" in which we have to ask ourselves "who makes the money". For some reason I can't get out of my mind the fact that Atkins/LCHF diet (which has lots of bacon in it) is making a revival, and it is the diet that has been proven to be successful (besides the weight loss) to not only reverse diabetes type II but also other conditions brought in by obesity. So of course, people will keep being fat, spend a lot of money on food, and spend a lot of money for healthcare because of all those conditions caused by obesity. While living in a society in which in the last 5 years or so everybody started being brainwashed into "big is beautiful" and "accept your body".

Someone was asking who was vegetarian and still got BC. I was. I wasn't even eating a lot of sugar either (well except chocolate) and had replaced the regular sugar with stevia for a long time. I only ate meat during Easter (lamb) and winter Holidays (pork) as it's part of the spiritual tradition I was raised in.

After I got BC, I told myself "damned if you do, damned if you don't" and while I was undergoing all those surgeries and chemo, and the doctors kept stressing the fact that I needed animal protein to heal properly, I started eating meat. Mind you, lean meat - mostly chicken breast and white fish. I have to also say that due to having a hyperthyroid condition right prior to BC, my Vitamin D 3 levels were very low (18 only) and surprise surprise, I also had osteopenia (the condition prior to osteoporosis). While I took AIs it got worse, I lost over 10% of bone mass during those years, putting me at the highest range of osteopenia, right a step from osteoporosis. In 6 years I put on a total of 65 lbs, from 125 lbs to 189 lbs (even got to 191 for a couple weeks) and got a torn meniscus because of the weight. Also my cholesterol levels got high, and I was borderline diabetic. Mind you, in all this time my diet was mostly raw vegetables/fruit with eggs, cheese and lean meat and fish. D3 supplements and calcium supplements.

When I got off AIs I started Atkins/LCHF, back in February this year. I'm at 139 lbs now. Cholesterol levels are normal, blood sugar is normal, and guess what? Osteopenia in my spine is gone, my last dexascan showed just a very very mild osteopenia still left in the hip. I ate mostly bacon, butter, whipped cream, olive oil and coconut oil. Fat pork and chicken legs. Vegetables just the allowed ones for fiber necessary. I kept taking the Vit D3 supplement but otherwise just took a supplement of Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM/Collagen/Hyaluronic acid, melatonin and also started taking a pea-sized amount of raw frankincense resin daily. My energy levels came back, and was able to do way more than before. My knee barely bothers me now and only when it's a storm around. If it wasn't for the recent complication from the LD recon that I got I would say I've never been better since the BC diagnosis.

So yea, bacon causes cancer. So does the air we breathe, the water we drink, and just living, in general, causes cancer.

Claire_in_Seattle

Seachain....major congrats on getting back to a normal weight and regaining your health!!! Working with statistics regularly, I do know that you have to be careful with cause-and-effect. The fact of the matter could be that bacon/meat eaters are more likely to be overweight than those who eat much less bacon/meat, and that the real culprit is obesity.

I had to eat some bacon for breakfast which I will use to fuel my 20-15 mile bicycle ride. Not raining this morning. YIPPIE!!!

I also discovered I needed a lot more red meat than normal for almost 2 years following chemo and radiation. I was cycling throughout and just didn't have the energy reserves. I ate the energy gels and potions without feeling guilty either. I was out there and I was exercising.

Of course, someone had to do a sendup of this study. It can be found here:

http://theunaustralian.net/2015/10/29/world-health-organisation-warns-that-consumption-of-kale-leads-to-arrogance/

One other thing I will mention. The cycling crowd here in Seattle is extremely fond of bakeries and microbreweries. I nearly died of starvation during a couple of rides (>50 miles) this past summer. One didn't have any real food for almost 40 miles, and the other had "healthy options" that didn't provide enough fuel.

I could have used a bacon sandwich. - Claire

MelissaDallas

Seachain, the way I see it is there is a lot of "preordained" research rigged to come up with the politically correct results

exbrnxgrl

Reading this thread makes want a grilled cheese and bacon sandwich..

MelissaDallas

With a Bloody Mary Caryn...

sas-schatzi

Dig in

BarredOwl

Now we are getting down to the essentials.

BarredOwl

sas-schatzi

cp4 You're right! Finally got around to looking at the link you posted above. These folks are nuts about their Taylor pork and pork roll

http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/10/pork-roll-taylor-ham-breakfast-meat-new-jersey.html

White Rose Diner's pork roll sandwich with home fries is called "The Complete." [Photographs: Drew Lazor]

Maggie Kowalski competed in, and won, the "Miss Pork Roll" portion of Trenton, New Jersey's inaugural Pork Roll Festival, an all-out celebration of an odd encased meat that's deified in the Garden State but little-known outside its weird, wrung-out-washcloth borders. She was quoted "It pisses me off when people just refer to it as pork. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but it's not that,"

ShetlandPony

Ok I'm getting off BCO to go eat something. For some inexplicable reason I am suddenly very hungry.

exbrnxgrl

I have resisted as long as I could. Leaving my classroom shortly and will stop to pick up the fixings to make a grilled cheese and bacon sandwich. I can't remember the last time I had one and I intend to relish every bite.

Caryn

ChiSandy

mmmm....BLT on low-carb toast tomorrow morning!

BTW, my duo recorded “Keep Me in Your Heart” for our upcoming CD due out this spring--and at first we were surprised that no major artists had covered the song. Then we tried to purchase the mechanical licenses for it (from co-writers Zevon & Calderon) and found out why. It took us TWO years to negotiate with Zevon’s estate’s publishers (they weren’t going to sell a license for fewer than 5,000 copies pressed, but we hired a service to get it down to 2,000 copies). Calderon came through right away.