how to treat an ulcerated (breast) tumor

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  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited March 2015

    Me too...I've followed some of your threads and was just wondering how you were doing. Hope you are well.

  • Michele2013
    Michele2013 Member Posts: 350
    edited March 2015

    Abigail!!!

    So glad to hear from you.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited March 2015

    appreciate the replies!!  to explain more:  the pieces of white cotton dish cloths are for the castor oil protacall.  still doing it.

    should find the appropriate thread but some time ago I sent for yarrow essential oil.  about the same time on another site there was a warning not to use it if you bleed easily.  I've had minimal blood recently but  did use the yarrow & wow.  soaked through dressing 1, dressing 2, plastic baggie, t shirt 1, & was working on t shirt 2, & it was pooling.  & I hadn't noticed,  managed to get it all cleaned up without disaster though


     

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2015

    Abigail - so glad you popped in to update us! Happy to learn that you're now signed up for Medicare. I hope this gives you more options and support as you continue your treatment.

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited March 2015

    Abigail....glad to hear that your representative was able to help. Have you made physician appointments yet?

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited March 2015

    the ins kicks in in july. then I have to find a dr, we have only 1 but I have a lead to him, before that "F" then with the dr I'll be able to get the everything ins I also have a lead to. probably expensive, they havn't said yet how much for "A"&"B" I don't intend to use any of this unless time indicates & as I'll be 78 the end of may, it sure might. forgot to check if my last post registered: gary said recently for cancer essential oils camomile & thyme. with the laptop malfunctioning I've not been able to get anything. dr. google years ago said 100% dead by I figured out then july 15th "without treatment" by which I expect they mean conventional, & as dr google isn't always correct as someone said herre & as I'm also not as usual person & as dr google was perhaps talking about something similar but not exact to my trouble, I'll see


  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited March 2015

    Abigail, do you know for sure that it is cancer and not an abscess? It is probably on here someplace but I have a crappy memory.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited March 2015

    from what I've learned mostly here absesses don't grow & dont have veins or arteries feeding them

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited March 2015

    Ah. Ok. thanks. Hope you can get a resolution soon. You've been struggling with this long enough and your quality of life must stink having to take care of it. You deserve some peace.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2015

    wren.  I did finally get my medicare parts a & b card to kick in july first.  amazingly long journey.  I'll believe it when I see it.......light:  how can you tell what's regression   or what'

    s the natural progression of the tumor.  I think a lot these days of chilliepaddi, if what she called tumors were the new swellings on the original one

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited May 2015

    Abigal, so glad you got your medicare! Congrats!! The only way that I know of to determine if a tumor has regressed or progressed, is to get a scan. Whether you want conventional treatment or not, medical doctors are still great for taking images to see where you are with your cancer. Otherwise, I think it may be impossible to tell. Often, from what I understand, even tumors that die and become necrotic can still appear large, and very active life threatening tumors can be small. PET scans and CT scans can provide all that information. There is just no other way to know without using modern day technology.

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited May 2015

    Abigail....I am relieved and glad to hear you got the insurance. Would you like to share who was the catalyst in getting you there? Were your local politicians' offices helpful? I hope you are able to tell us so others can learn from your experience. And please join us again on the book lovers thread. The other sisters there look forward to hearing from you as well. And of course I look forward to hearing about you getting the care you deserve. Remember also to contact your local American Cancer Society chapter if you need additional help. Volunteers are there to help you as well. They can help provide transportation to medical visits and offer counseling. You sound like you are on your way!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2015

    interesting. voracious.  will get to the book club at some point, next 2 weeks I hope to do work on the new canvas at the studio.  yes, chris Gibson, our local political representative was a big catalyst, probably couldn't have done it without him.  & paula, the new helper at his office in delhi was a big help as well.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2015

    I've been wondering if the natural progression of tumors is:  calcification(s), to growing calcifications, to calcifications changing to fleshy . to bits of that, the mushroom parts spc=ecifically, falling away, the hard calcification/ironlike parts filled with blood.  the muchroom parts seem to keep the blood from flowing


     

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2015

    the mushroom parts are no longer a while film, easily debrided, but hard spongy white & some of it actually looks like mushrooms

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2015

    Abigail - so glad you've gotten your Medicare all squared away! I hope this affords you the chance to at least learn what you're dealing with, and maybe offers treatment options that you are comfortable with. Thank you for sharing your experience with the system; I'm sure others will find your explanations valuable as they nabigate, too.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2015

    I still don't plan to access any of the conventional options unless I become unable to think clearly.  I need this ins & more as well I hope to come so that the they don't get my income


     

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2015

    whatever they might call it:  names are just words:  it is what it is

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2015

    get that sticky stuff off the sissors after every dressing change or it will harden & be impossible mostly to remove. already the most time consuming part of dressing changes so glad it's back to frankencence month, the thyme, blue camomile caused bleedeng at nearly every change, a very big one once making a tub hot water sear & say 20 minutes to stop the flow. difficult to tell when trying to get off a tiny bit of mushroom stuff will trigger a gushing bleed. the upper chest, my upper chest on that side, the right is now a mass of veins & I think 2 arteries leading to it. (I think the "tiny vein" I mentioned five years ago, was an artery & It's a lot bigger now. the hacking cough is still here & I can't digest milk pretty much at all. oatmeal is still good for a sleep aid of course gary never said to use BLUE camomile, he did say strong color is good many times, nor did he say to JUICE fennel, only that liquorice was good for cancer. don't double think people that fb friend from long ago tibetan class in wisconsin, sent a link: cancer is a fungus. & it included a horific/fascinating video of 2 surgeons I guess removing a large piece of mushroom stuff from a tumor, didn't say what kind, but I don;t thinnk I had the sound on, the mushroom seemed to have wire like roots. (I havn't seen any here), they yanked it out, must have caused mega bleeding but they didn't show that.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2015

    light: not interested in knowing: wouldn't change anything except possibly a new tumor, perhaps the nice rolley polley cyst in the other breast going bad. that would make it pretty much impossible to manage

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited June 2015

    Abigail, glad to see you back. How long have you been dealing with this and did you first just notice a lump or did it show up already having broken through the skin? Has it gotten any better or worse or stayed the same?

    I admire your determination and understand you not wanting conventional treatment. I hope there are days when you don't have to deal with it and can enjoy life. I am 68 and appreciate the little things and won't be pursuing any treatment if things change but i will do what it takes to still enjoy the small stuff...and of course to avoid pain....coward here.

    I do hope things are good in general. With your mind i hate to think your days are taken up with this tumour when you could be writing great books. Take care and please keep checking in.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2015

    noticed lumps in both breasts, one in each about 50 years ago after using 1st tier mexican birth controll pills & then 10 years of american birth controll pills. in 2010 I noticed the cyst in my right breast had risen & hardened I began juicing fennel & experienced a lot of pain in my right breast. in the new year I got a laptop, that was jan 2011, & researched fennel & discovered it was VERY estrogenic. in march of that y ear after stopped juicing the fennel that was 2 months later after juicing the fennel for a year, I saw a red spot. 6 months later another. now several thousands of times bigger & covering pretty much the whole breast. that's nearly 5 years later. in jan the cough I've had since '07right after Bob died turned hacking. take nothing for pain except wintergreen oil topically if I get a stiff shoulder or headache. well, cocoa powder, unsweetened with spring water & organic maple syrup, & 2 cups of decaff green tea part of a protocol deom a naturopath, dr eli camp I contacted in 2011. I offered her 200 a week for a consultation by mail, & I have never been litigenous, but she declimed. yesterday I gave her an update, as I do from time to time, she has never responded, my usual experience with medical people. will be interesting to see what happens if I contact the conventional dr here.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2015

    I became age 78 3 weeks ago.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited June 2015

    that is a long time to deal with this. I hope you can see someone just for a break from it if not to diagnose. I have had both breasts removed and only required plain tylenol the next day. I would just be done with them but again i understand your hesitation. I wish you peqce and comfort.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2015

    there is a surgical paper tape you can tear instead of cutting

  • druout
    druout Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2015

    Hi Abigail,

    Seeing an md can be scary, but they are usually great for diagnosis, and you don't have to do anything they suggest or even agree with their conclusions!

    Treating an ailment without knowing for sure what it is, is really counter productive.

    Mainstream medicine can sometimes cure things rapidly--such as, perhaps, the use of anti-fungal drugs. But knowing for sure gives you the power to treat correctly with your own methods.

    Be brave. Get a diagnosis!

    Concerned!

    Hil

  • druout
    druout Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2015

    Hi Abigail,

    Seeing an md can be scary, but they are usually great for diagnosis, and you don't have to do anything they suggest or even agree with their conclusions!

    Treating an ailment without knowing for sure what it is, is really counter productive.

    Mainstream medicine can sometimes cure things rapidly--such as, perhaps, the use of anti-fungal drugs. But knowing for sure gives you the power to treat correctly with your own methods.

    Be brave. Get a diagnosis!

    Concerned!

    Hil

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited July 2015

    hi hill. sorry you deleted the post. diagnosis? I donthink so, not fear exactly, fear of that is necessary for the diag. imaging etc etc. as for anti fungals, learned about the vaginitis drug early on. flagyll. used too mush of that too when I needed to at my sexually active years. almost ran out of frankensence esstl oil, got it just now. glad because the youth stuff I still had a bit of is way too strong. had to change dressings many times last night, with nothing on then. before I finally could sleep. looks like the mushroom latex is trying to make roots, reason to get rid of that stuff. like other mushrooms I expect it feeds on the tumor as tree mushrooms feed on the tree to which they're related & use the tree nutrients. but very very slowly. too slowly for me to let it


  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited July 2015

    while pondering for now a long time, & searching for that video I mentioned which I can't find, I think cancer is not a fungus. that the fingus which manifests on I'd guess all cancers anyway breast ones, is symbiotic with the tumor, feeds on it but is not a part of it or the cancer

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited July 2015

    Abigail, I would have that thing removed just out of laziness. I can't imagine spending so much time and energy cleaning things up.....not a nice way to spend your remaining years....which could be many.

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