Newbie - Triple Neg, Stage IIIA, IDC, 5-6 cm lump;

ratatask

I think the top part there says it all.  I was just diagnosed on Wednesday after finding a lump in my breast.  They biopsied the lump and the closest lymph node.  Both had cancer.  Right now that's all we know.  I'm scared to death that the cancer has spread elsewhere.  I honestly see no reason to think it hasn't at this point.  Already the cancer is so bad that they're going straight to chemo and skipping the surgery.  And right now my ovaries are hurting.  I know that sounds weird, but I went through IVF 6 years ago and again 3 years ago (successfully - I have 2 beautiful little girls) and ever since my ovaries ache when I'm sick.  Now I'm scared that it's in my ovaries.  Anyway, it's 4:30am right now and I can't sleep.  I'm just too scared.  

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grover

Ratatask, you have no definitive reason to think that it HAS spread, either, so try not to freak out...I know that's easier said than done. Also, at some point, you should ask for a PET scan, which can see if there IS any spread...or NOT, to reassure you! As several others have posted, it's the lymph nodes' JOB. to "catch" the cancer, and keep it from spreading past. I had 14 removed & only 1 had cancer cells, and many others have similar situations, as you may! Whatever comes your way, know that you have a world of women (& some men!) at your fingertips to help you get through it. BREATHE!

sylviaexmouthuk

Hello ratatask,

I just wanted to say try to relax and tell yourself that you are going to be alright. A diagnosis of breast cancer does send us into shock but you will feel better once you start treatment. It is quite normal to have chemotherapy before surgery. It is known as preadjuvant chemotherapy and is often chosen by the oncologist when the tumour is large and needs to be shrunk before surgery. This is what happened to me and I am nearly eight years out since I was diagnosed. Make sure you ask your oncologist and consultant what combination of chemotherapy drugs you will have. I was told surgery is always a part of the treatment, so you should have it after the chemotherapy, sometimes it is a lumpectomy, sometimes a mastectomy and you usually finish up with radiotherapy.

Let us know how you get on. I do not know which country you come from, but you are welcome to post on the thread I started Calling all triple negatives in the UK. There are women from all over the world on there.

Fond thoughts.

Sylvia

LRM216

Ratatask:

I am so sorry that you have to find yourself on this board, but I can assure you that you have found a haven in this rocky sea of cancer by being here.  Please know that most tumors over 3 cm. are taken out after chemo is given in order to shrink them and also to get a good idea of what the particular drugs they have chosen for you are doing. So that would be considered normal protocol for a tumor of that size.  Secondly, the fact that your node showed cancer infiltration would not be unusual either with a larger tumor.  Please look at it from the view that your lymph nodes were doing their job in catching the cancer and that it has not spread to an outside area.  This is a terrible time for you, the worst, in fact, but once you get going with your treatment and know that you are fighting this beast as aggressively that you can (and that is very important with triple neg. cancer), you will then begin to see a great deal of this storm begin to temper.  We are all here for you, every step of the way.  I wish you all the best and want you to know you will not be on this journey alone.  

Linda 

Luah

Ratatask: It's perfectly normal to be freaking out... I think we have all been there. But once you get underway with treatment, you will start to feel more in control. Try not to think the worst. I know that's hard.  I was convinced the cancer had spread all through me, and it ended up being in just one node... and here I am 3 1/2 years later, doing fine. Hugs and best wishes.

placid44

Ratatask,



Some women who are triple negative with large tumors do well. Jennifer Griffin of Fox News had a 6 to 9 cm. tumor (not sure how many positive nodes), but she responded very well to chemotherapy.



Has anyone told you yet that triple negatives often (not always) respond well to chemo? That's because the tumors are usually grade 3, i.e. fast-dividing, and chemo targets fast-dividing cells. A minority of women have a "pathologic complete response," where the chemo completely destroys the tumor. That is associated with a very good prognosis. Jennifer Griffin had a pCR. I did not...I had a partial response.



Of course you'll need to see what the pathology shows about your nodes and see how your tumor responds to chemo. I'm just saying it's not a given that you won't do well with a large tumor.



Also second the point about getting chemo first. That's a good thing. It lets your doctors try to shrink the tumor before surgery and it tells them whether your tumor responds to the chemo regimen they give you. If you don't respond, they can change the regimen. While they haven't proved that chemo first is better in terms of killing any wandering cells in your body quickly (ie preventing distant metastasis), to me that's common sense. Work on the whole body first and deal with the local situation/surgery later.



I started chemo right away. My tumor shrank a lot and the proliferation rate was lower in the residual tumor (what was left after chemo). They think the chemo killed any fast-growing cells that may have been circulating at first. I think chemo first helped, but that's just me.