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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2013

     I did a double take when reading this receipt. It took awhile to find out what a Syllabub was. They used it to serve to young people and children to teach them how to drink.

                                                                          Country Syllabub

               From "Directions   for Cookery in its Various Branches" by Miss Leslie, seventh edition 1839

    Mix half a pound of white sugar with a pint of fine cider, or of white wine, and grate in a nutmeg. Prepare them in a large bowl, just before milking time. Then let it be taken to the cow, and have about three pints milked into it, stirring occasionally with a spoon. Let it be eaten before the froth subsides. If you use cider, a little brandy will improve it.

    Miss Mary  Deas Ravenal

    The visuals of "let it be taken to the cow"--------OMG to the barn.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2013

    Oh Golfgirl, yes these recipes are just a hoot to read in the whole book. Well actually, there's one for cooter soup. Took me ever so long to find out what a cooter was. The oldest recipes don't have measurements as we know them. Yes, there was discrimination towards the women.LOL

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited December 2013


    Watered down!!ThumbsDown

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited December 2013

    Sas Visuals diidn't phase me till you said something.  But then when we went out with my couzin at milking time I would line up with the cats for my share!  He had perfect aim.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2013

    One more and I will stop. The assumption on these old recipes is that you KNOW what to do with the ingredients.

                                           "Carolina Housewife" Wedding cake of 1850

                                        20 pounds of butter                             20 nutmegs

                                        20 pounds of sugar                                1 ounce mace

                                        20 pounds of flour                                  4 ounses cinnamon

                                        20 ponds of raisins                               20 glasses of wine

                                        40 pounds of currants                          20 glasses of brandy

                                        12 pounds of citron                               10 eggs to the poond

    Add clove to your taste. If you wish it richer, add 2 pounds of currants, and 1 pound of raisins to each pound flour                ------------------------------------ Miss Mary Deas Ravenal







  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2013

    I suppose ---One more thing , they were cooking in ovens that had no temperature control. To determine heat setting you stuck your hand in the oven. A slow oven was 45-60 seconds, moderate was from  35-45 seconds, a quick oven was 20-35 seconds.

    "All systematic housekeepers will hail the day when some enterprising Yankee or Buckeye girl shall invent a stove or range with a thermometer attached to the oven, so that the heat may be regulated accurately...." The Women of First Congregational Church Marysville, Ohio  from "The Centennial Buckeye Cook Book", Minneapolis, 1876

    To any that have old cookbooks they can be quite valuable. I got interested years ago because they were just fun reading. But one was sold for 50,000$ as reported in the Wall Street Journal a dozen or so years ago. The reason they are valuable is they talked of every day life. Some historians realized to late that history books told of too much related to politics, battles, and frankly lots of men stuff. Little was documented about home life except through letters.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2013

    Teka, funny, remember the phrase---------they were teaching their children how to drink. Lordy, can you imagine today. Department of Childrens and family service plus police,  would be knocking at the door .

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2013


    Good heavens! Who is cooking up those recipes? What do you mix that cake in? A washtub? I'm definitely making the champagne punch! That should last me a day or two.....maybe a week if I'm stingy.


    Hi everyone. I'm back home finally. It was 53 degrees when I left Houston and 6 degrees when I landed in Denver. It started snowing Saturday evening and kept it up until Sunday evening. I had to shovel snow and it's not even Christmas yet. (whining)


    I had a great trip and my friend Sandi took really good care of me. We had a good time in Galveston also, in a beachfront condo for a week. I was also happy to see my kiddo a lot.


    I'm happy to be home again! (even though I noticed the housekeeping fairies did NOT come to my house while I was gone.)


    Phyllo

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited December 2013


    Phyllo....they were at my house.......

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited December 2013


    Phyllo, it must of been heavenly to be on the water, the sunsets, smells...my favorite place to be..

  • crog234
    crog234 Member Posts: 801
    edited December 2013


    thanks SAS. Yup the last three years were the pits... Here's hoping to a better New Year for all of us!!!!


    Cindy AKA Squishy

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited December 2013


    Sassy - Are we sisters separated at birth? I love cookbooks and must restrain myself from buying more. My DM was an antiques dealer so I do have quite a few old ones and a few of the home health types. I attend irregularly the local book and paper show - irregular in that I can't afford them and really don't need them. Will try after Christmas boxes out of the way to get a pic of my bookshelves. Runs the length of what was a 2 car garage b4 we converted it. Overflowing.


    Phyllisinthesnow - Glad you are back posting regularly. You crack me up. Know you miss your friend. Kiddo?? The dustbunny fairy has been here but she did not clean up after herself.

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited December 2013

    SAS - My Miss  Leslie's if from the 1840's.  Also have a 1860's vintage Fannie Farmer.  One of my favorites is an early 1900's British volume called Inquire Within About Anything.    About half is recipe book and the rest is a forerunner of Ask Heloise.  I forget now which book I found Inquire quoted but it was well enough knowen that Agatha Christie referred to it a couple of times.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited December 2013


    Cami, I meant chocolate chips.


    lol goats, yes there is a chart on the can for how much to use, with water. The stuff is Expensive, IF you can find it. Publix doesn't have it, so must go to health food store and spend $20 on a can. But it keeps well in the freezer, lasts forever.


    Sas. I speak Southernese. Cooter is a turtle.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited December 2013

    Phlylobackonu'ranklebracelet---I knew u'd get caught sooner or later, we really know u were on the lam. But it sounds like lamming it up had some fun in it. so Champagne all around--remember the cocktail a sugar cube in the champagne, sounded so feminine to say that. Depending who the buyer was I'd order the champagne cocktail (sp) just doesn't look right. LOL

    OH OH it's colder than a witches nose, yes I said nose, tonite and my GS has a fever so he's warm anyway. Well he'll be home tomorrow, but he likes to stay away from me when he's sick--

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2013

    Spookie, LOL, I finally found it, but it wasn't easy at the time.

    Chabba, goodness be careful with those, wouldn't it be fun if when you did decide to part with them they were worth lots$$'s. Hope so! Where did you find such early copies?

  • juliaanna
    juliaanna Member Posts: 1,043
    edited December 2013


    Seems a number of us were separated at birth. My cookbook collection exceeds 250 volumes. I have a Charleston Receipts given to me by my MIL-she's from Cross, SC. Still love The Settlement Cookbook - subtitled "the way to a man's heart". Yes, I mentioned libations. With this cold weather Tom and Jerrys might be more appropriate than egg nog. My grandfather was in charge of making it every Christmas. We always had to purchase a new bottle of Rum for the season.


    I take it this party is going to last all day and half the night, right?


    Take care everyone.

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited December 2013

    My DH and I had an out of print Aviation book and magazine business for 30 years back in the 70's and 8o's. We subscribed to a listing service for booksellers where dealers could list items for sale to other dealers at wholesale.  I also worked part time for a couple of years.  Between the two I picked up some really special items.  One of my treasures though was a gift from a friend and mentor in the business, especially since he had both a daughter and dil who wanted it. It is a 1911 "Mrs Wilson" Whitehouse Cookbook.  They used to do a new one with every change in the Presidency. Another favorite type is the church cookbook, especially those pre 1950.


    By the way I have upwards of 600 cookbooks.

  • mostlymom
    mostlymom Member Posts: 466
    edited December 2013


    i'm in for Hershey Pie - i only make it at Christmas.... i don't dare make it more often - it's deadly

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited December 2013

    Chabba for sure this will last all day and night. After all we are party animals now.

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited December 2013


    Ok I guess the party is going to be a my house?? You all can come up and watch the sunset.


    image

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited December 2013

    Good Morning--Again what a view, beautiful, I hope u' doing OK today GMA- what I mean is a little better.

    I thought I was going to drink this weekend--my Beer-rita but I didn't so I started my aunti-B's yesterday, so we'll se if some pain goes away in my colon. So all I'll have is my back and side to deal with. Oh and shoulder and oh never mind it's a  crazy list.-Well I don't get many headaches so that's a good thing.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2013

    Cami with you babe, you know I believe in the use of the pain scale, but I modified it a bit from the guidelines to say "which body part. Ewhhhhhhhhh.

    MostlyMom sounds divine--Hershey's chocolate pie. Hmmmmm. Only got to Hershey Penn. once. The town smelled like chocolate. I suppose the people living there get used to it, but it was soooooooo nice. There was a very sweet story about the Hershey family of recent years. They sold there interest in the company, and the new board tried to renig on the Hershey family commitment to the hospital and the care provided to the town folk. Does anyone know what happened to that?

    Cookbook lovers LMG, Chabba, Me, Flowers, Chevy, Julia   Who'd I miss. Our collections are a treasure for sure. Just reading the ingredients of something. We visualize it, we taste them, we smell them- all with just the reading. Then creating them can be so relaxing and fun. My exception to that is a BON APPETIT' recipes. The outcome is always stupendous , but the getting there is soooo much work.

    DH and I would have so much fun doing a dinner party using never before tried recipes. Only once did something turned out to be awful. We did it right ,.but the recipe was just awful. One of those , that we said--what were they thinking. It was from Florida best recipes CB. A signature dish from a famous restaurant. 

    The worst booboo one time, I created a vegetarian lasagna for a friend that had just gone vegetarian. We all agreed it was the best we'd ever eaten. Used elements from three recipes. So, good, I figured I'd never forget what I had done. Mistake. I didn't write it down. Never have been able to duplicate it.

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited December 2013


    GmaFoley, Thank You for the invite and a lovely view for the Party.NerdySillyHeart

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited December 2013


    Teka, 3 bean salad


    Holeinone, crab stuffed mushrooms


    april485, spanakopita (greek spinach pie) and a Greek salad


    4sewwhat, dessert and the entertainment


    crog234, pumpkin chocolate chip cookies


    juliaanna, pecan pie and maybe mincemeat one


    camillegal, recipe for cookies.


    Wren44, chili rellenos casserole


    GmaFoley, fresh apple pie


    chabba, French onion soup


    IllinoisLady, No-Bake cookies


    sas-schatzi, jezebel and crackers


    blondiex46, cupcakes


    savgigi, carrot cake


    Chevyboy, Spice Cake Mom used to make


    luvmygoats, lemon scones


    Di2012, limoncello jello shots


    Alyson, pavlova


    flat13good, home made Bailey's


    gardengumby, trifle


    Spookiesmom, Forgotten Cookies


    phgraham, champagne punch


    mostlymom, Hershey Pie

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2013

    Teka , Thank you for keeping the menu. Salivating with each reading OH so goodddd!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2013

    LMG, A verititable library. An original Miss Leslie. Not that you would sell it, but it would be fun to know it's value. I have a dear friend that collected teaching and childrens schoolbooks. She's a nationally recognized writer and speaker on the history of these. The university that she is donating them too after she passes-years and years from now, has created a section in the library that will be named after her. They've already had the celebratory charity function with all the fanfare. Wouldn't that be fun for you and Chabba, to know that your treasured books were kept for the ages. Regretfully, the internet will make collections like yours fewer. The young ones will never know what curling up with a CB will be like, or at least not as we know it.

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited December 2013


    Ahhh Sas, you are soooo right. Everyone gets their recipes from the net these days. I love my cookbooks. I love the "joy of cooking" and  "home and garden" and all of my lovely cookbooks. They may have a few stains on them from the olive oil or the butter, but they are well loved. Happy

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited December 2013


    What IS that glowing golden red thing in the eastern sky? By golly it really is the sun after almost a week.


    One of the biggest used book stores is Powells in Portland OR and other locations. 5400 used CBs at present on line. Oh my! Doesn't seem to sort by price - I thought that might get me the really old ones first. And you can narrow by field. 182 in Vintage.


    I have a large collection of childrens' CBs too. Started with a freebie milk co. one that DB and I got as children about 1959. Expanded when I had a daughter who thinks she's cooking if she makes a brownie from mix. I used to make French toast from this CB thinking it was a unique recipe; that was not something my DM made. I have my great-grandmothers CB from a utility co, I think. I know it when I pick it up but the spine is plain white so hard to pick out on bookshelf. Also have though not really so old my mom's BH&G. My grandmother was an OK cook but not stupendous. My DM was adventurous but living in Hawaii added to that plus she married/moved away from area. I have a manilla envelope of GM's but I think it is mostly magazine/newspaper cutouts.


    Sassy - DH would like me to get rid of most of them. We talk of moving and he says they must mostly go if we do. I counter with if I get rid of them and the move doesn't happen do you want to deal with that angry woman? But in fairness they were collected pre internet.


    I finally broke down yest. and read the newpaper online. At least the headlines (what there was besides ice storm), local and comics. Today we got redelivery of Fri, Sat, Sunday. I think may distributor did those and later may get Mon and today. I bet there are some mad advertisers with all the Christmas ads gone to naught.

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited December 2013


    GmaFoley, I would love to party at your house, your photos are amazing, and I live in Idaho so not too far..I hope you are continuing to feel a little more comfortable every day


    Juliaana & Chabba, how do you store that many books?, a big book case huh! Seems like are houses get smaller as we age, cause we have so much stuff..I got hooked on eBay a few winters back, buying Irish Belleek. Where to put it all?


    Keep warm....golfgirl

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