STFU (Shut the F*** UP)

4sewwhat

Lilli, I know unconscious people can be aware of what is going on around them, the timing just seemed funny to me. That's all I was sayin'!

My DH was on subs in the Navy. I have a lot of respect for those willing to serve and give us the freedoms we enjoy and most take for granted and some take advantage of.

sas-schatzi

4.... RE: Hargis's ceremony. By history the Purple heart is awarded in a more rapid -quicker time than the other medals, it is for injuries that are combat related. It's easier to document the injury. Bedside ceremonies are common. This I know you know, just stated it for completeness of thought. Secondly, the fact that he was unconscious on a respirator, tells me he was at higher risk for dying from his injuries. Since his prognosis was/is questionable, I could see that the Brass chose to honor him while alive versus post mortem. Since he was able to salute, tells me they didn't have him in a chemically induced coma which is commonly done with Diprivan (properfol-sic?) OR the Docs chose to lighten up on the drip with the thought that he may hear what was occurring. I think they chose to lighten up on the Diprivan. It's almost impossible to keep someone on a respirator in the acute phase of being on a respirator with out them fighting the control of the respirator. I'll reheck the pic. to see if he had a tracheotomy or a tube down the nose/throat. But thought flash as I write. The fact that he fought the hand of the doc tells me, the doc was likely thinking he was going for the tube when he was fighting to raise his hand. (Shivers). This story goes to the heart of what a soldier is, it will become iconic within the Services. Will it last with the general public, time will tell.

sas-schatzi

Littlegoats--Recockulous ---cool!

4sewwhat

I thought it was incredible that at the precise moment he saluted! I used to live near several bases and spent time at the military hospitals. Those are some very dedicated and inspiring people that you meet there.

sas-schatzi

4.... There was a story about Elizabeth Dole awhile back. After spending time with her husband in a military hospital in New England, she saw what difficulties the families went through. The Veterans are cared for, but she saw that the families were in the lurch. She started a foundation to provide support. This link is to the foundations web site. Pass it on if you know of someone in need

http://elizabethdolefoundation.org/#sthash.TeRHgovx.dpbs

Is DH still in the navy?

Teka

Special moment and doubt if a doctor would lighten up on a medication for show. At least I hope not!

sas-schatzi

Teka, Guessing, BUT they likely discussed that the ceremony would coincide with a trial of lightening up on the drip to evaluate his response. Diprivan puts the patient in such a deep coma, that improvement cognitively or respiratory independence can't be evaluated. The usual modis operandi with a chemically induced coma is to evaluate all physical parameters for improvement, then lighten on the drip, evaluate as I said. If the patient response indicates that the patient is ready to come off the respirator, then it's done by a very specific protocol. If it's determined that the patient response is not meeting criteria for removal, the chemical induced coma is resumed.

Anonymous

vdghdhhsffedxbcgksbdj!!!!!!!!rofl,rofl! Cammi, you are the BEST! Okay, now that I said that, we should discuss how you happen to have such extensive knowledge of my penal record. Do you get info on me from your extensive government contacts? I know you write to them a LOT. As for me being on the "hole", recockulous! Bahahahaha! I was in solitary confinement where we get fluorescent light 24 hours a day and toilet paper. I made TP flowers for the warden and Big Alice. The warden probably wiped his behind with his, but I know BA treasures hers. Good thing my lawyer sprung me before she made another a marriage proposal.

I am not going to read the story about the soldier. I am already on meds to keep me from turning into a waterworks whenever someone even says hello to me. I'd probably drown if I read that.

Love you all.

P

sas-schatzi

Teka, That doc was holding Hargis's hand for the very reason that I mentioned. They didn't say that there was someone on the other side doing the same, but there was. The attempt at pulling the tube is the most common reaction when the patients level of consciousness raises. It's actually a very tense moment for staff as the patient is trialed, b/c if the tube is pulled prematurely, lots of trouble can follow. That's why docs, nurses, respiratory therapists are all at the bedside when the patient is trialed. plus, all emergency equipment.

sas-schatzi

Phillyconnectedtousagain YAY

Teka

I can only hope that the soldiers loved ones never feel that his medical care was planned to coincide with a military photo-op.

That would be so sad!

Enjoy the day!!!

4sewwhat

Teka, his dad just sounded really proud when they quoted him!

Sas, thanks for the info. I love Elizabeth Dole! she would have made a great president! My DH is not in the navy any more. He taught at their nuke power reactor school in upstate New York for a while and then went to subs in VA Beach where we met. He was on cruise for the Dessert Shield thing way back when! His knee got blown out fighting a fire on the sub, submerged no less, so he ended up on a hospital ship then surgery in Italy, then home where he worked on base in the legal offices for a while.

Hey Phyllo, I met Big Alice too down in solitary! She proposed to you too? I don't know if I should be offended or relieved. Glad Cami is only leaking info on your penal record and not your penile one :0)

Good day everyone!

Shellshine

What I Goldmine we have here, too pooped to party right now but I'm happily lurking.

My hospice orientation is INTENSE, but I'm in the right place. 💛

(I guess I should add for our new hoollies that I'm orienting as a nurse)

Teka

phgraham & 4sewwhat, were you in prison?

4sewwhat

Nut House!!

4sewwhat

Shells, I know you are exhausted but you are doing such a wonderful thing! Hope DH is doing well also.

Teka

Big Alice is in the Nut House!

Anonymous

4sewwhat

Teka

I am again confused with photos, really in a mental institution? I was getting off on prior posts ;o)

sas-schatzi

Teka we did warn you when you first came, -----WE ARE DIFFERENT IN MANY, MANY WAYS!!!!!!!!!!!

IllinoisLady

Lilli

4sewwhat

Chevy, be careful. Big Alice is lookin' for you.....

4sewwhat

Well I see we have a theme for the evening ladies. LOL When Cami wakes up, she will fit right in :0)

Alyson

Grr can't paste, will have to find its original. Thought the hooligans might like this.

Had to do it another way. And I now have a dictionary and spell check yippee!!!

Anonymous

luvit Alyson

Teka

Did I forget to tell you that I am blind and have my seeing eye dog read the posts in my behalf ;o)

4sewwhat

Is that his picture in your avatar??

Teka

My family is my seeing eye dog ;o)

4sewwhat

I take it you are not joking?? So sorry if that is the case, no joking matter. I was just being silly(cuz it's a cat in the picture!) and meant no offense. I need to pack my keyboard away today as I am batting 1000.