Complementary and Integrative Approach to Healing

3monstmama

I do get the fact that we as a species are genetically programed for certain eatting habits.  

Smaller plates can be a big help with overeatting.  I went to the Goodwill and picked up a bunch of what is traditionally viewed as a salad plate and use those.  Works quite nicely once you implement the "no seconds except for veggies and salad" rule.

As far as pictures that load, I find some people in this community are more inclined to post pictures than talk.  I put them on ignore--then the pictures don't load.  I am sorry to have to do that but in addition to the locking up the computer, there are too many chances of viruses and what have you to risk it.

Lose It is also available as an app for an Itouch.  I have liked using it.

Lunch today will be a zucchini steamed in the microwave with a bit of Tibetan hot sauce on it.

thenewme

Hi Merilee,

Does the lemon juice cut the ginger taste any?  How long do you soak it?  I find ginger anything really difficult to choke down - it's just that little zing to it,  but I'd like to use it more if I could disguise it somehow!

Merilee

Ya the lemon really did cut the ginger taste.

thenewme

Thanks, Merilee, I'll have to try that when I get some fresh ginger! 

Sherryc

thenewme-I have heard of someone else on the boards taking bosweila but did not know anything about it.  Will def look at the think you gave.

Proudmom I will try the tea.  I actually have some ginger tea that I really like so I could just add the tumeric to it.  I would think that would work.

Question on accupunture.  I had an MRI done of my neck this week and just found out I have a herniated disc.  It is in the same area that I broke my neck 16 years ago so it is in kind of a tricky place.  Anyway would accupunture help this at all, do any of you know?

3monstmama

I will have to try the turmeric tea---must  confess, I love ginger tea.  It is the very best thing I know of for an upset stomach.  When I was having my retched wretching disease the other week, it was the only thing I could keep down.

SPG

Anyone tried the Bill Henderson Protocol? I just started it and was wondering how anyone else is doing. Look on Amazon.com and look up Bill Henderson's  book (Somethink like "Cancer is Curable")  and read all the 77 book reviews! Very impressive to say the least.

Yes, the diet is strict but it's only for eight weeks and this is worth it to me to get rid of the cancer.

I support whatever decision anyone makes. My very best to all of you.   

Sandi

ruthbru

You need medical treatment for a herniated disc. One of my friend's husband has one in his back & they are going to try cortisone shots first as he has other health problems and is not a good surgical risk.

Bren-2007

Pony .. that website claims to cure cancer.  I don't believe it.

Bren

thenewme

Rainbowpony - Maybe you could start a thread about your theory, since it really is completely off-topic here.  If your efforts to contribute to peaceful healing are sincere, please do. 

The site you linked to, with no discussion at all about it, has this line that jumped out at me from the very first page: "...in the 1930s, Dr. Royal Rife was curing cancer with very gentle electromedicine."

Oh.my.gosh.  I missed this one: The "Overnight Cure For Cancer" (OCC), which was designed by an ICRF researcher, is so-named because it was designed specifically to safely revert all cancer cells in a person's body into normal cells within 24 hours "

That site could start an interesting discussion, but it's just not related to this one.

ETA - Please, please, Rainbowpony - start a thread specifically for all your miracle cures.  The rest of us are more interested in fact, not fantasy.

Sherryc

Thanks Ruth, yes my Dr said we are going to treat conservatively especially with my other issues.  the herniated disk is between C5& C6 and C6&C7 are already fused.  So surgery would be the very last thing to do as that would cause them to fuse C5&C6 which I would loose alot of range of motion.  That is why they only fused two of the three to begin with. I broke all three.  Anyway I am on meds for my breast nerve pain and my arthritis in my hip and those meds are keeping me from hurting which is good.  Yoga has kept me from loosing strength in my arm so that is also good.  I was just wondering if acupuncture would help any of the tingling sensation that I am getting in the hand and if it would help any with the numbness that I am having.  I hope the meds continue to take care of the pain so that I don't have to resort to stronger things or cortisone shots.  I have already had neck surgery once and don't want that again either. A very long surgery and a very long rehab.  Not a fun time.

thenewme

Hi SherryC, you asked about acupuncture benefits for a herniated disk.  I'd definitely clear any kind of  complementary/integrative treatment with your doctor, since you definitely don't want to inadvertently cause any further damage. 

Here's what Sloan Kettering has to say about acupuncture treatment, which may be worth looking into if you have pain from the herniated disk:

 "The World Health Organization supports the use of acupuncture in reducing symptoms, such as depression, facial pain, headache, peripheral neuropathy, lower back pain, nausea and vomiting, neck pain, postoperative pain, shortness of breath, chronic fatigue, hot flashes and side effects caused by radiotherapy and/or chemotherapy. Acupunture also reduced symptoms of sneezing, itching, and runny nose in children with allergies, and may be useful against allergic rhinitis in adults when used along with standard medications. Acupuncture also improved pregnancy rates in women following in vitro fertilization, but did not provide pain relief in women undergoing induced labor.
Acupuncture treatments are generally safe and well tolerated by most patients. Some conditions may require continuous treatments in order to achieve long-term effect.
Cancer patients considering acupuncture should seek certified or state-licensed practitioners who have training or experience in working with cancer patients."

sweetbean

I'm doing supplements (aren't we all), homeopathy (from this doctor from India), mistletoe injections, and I am about to start AveUltra.  I'll do the homeopathy and mistletoe for a 12-18months, then I am going to switch to Chinese herbs.  Also on Tamoxifen, but lobbying my doctor for Fareston.  Although I don't really have an side effects from the Tamoxifen.  Just a couple of warm flushes.  

Anonymous

Pip

I'm reading the Anti Cancer A new Way of LIfe book now!!!!!  

Bren, thenewme, thanks for trying to keep this thread the informative welcoming place it has become for women looking to supplement their treatments with complementary and integrative healing. Really, thank you.

Anonymous

sweetbean,

Mistletoe injections?  wow!  I thought they were pills.  Does your doctor give them to you, or do you do it yourself?  I ask, cuz when I was getting Neulasta during chemotherapy, I live so far from the hospital, that I gave the injections to myself .  Just little jabs to my very excessive tummy fat

Meant to say, sweetbean, still loving several of the affirmations from the thread you started. Thanks. Esp. the one for "Grace"

Sherryc

CS I am also reading the Anit Cancer book right now.

ruthbru

I will just say my view on cancer and then be done with the topic. I compare cancer to being at war with a terrorist organization. It doesn't matter how nice you are, or how much of an asset you are to the community, or how well your family loves you, or how positive your attitude is.... cancer cells, like terrorists, want to kill you. And so you have to get them before they get you. That means the big, bad medical treatments PLUS doing everything we can on a personal level to insure our very survival. And you only have one chance to get it right. That is what I think.

peggy_j

I hear ya, ruthbru. I was reading this book (below). It's about Complementary Therapies but it includes a primer of how cancer cells form and behave. They are mutant cells, they suck up extra resources if they can get them but can survive on very very little, if needed. There's a reason why this disease kills some people. So I'm with you, important to use both the medical treatments and complementary therapies. 

FWIW, my MO's nutritionist has seen the authors speak and thought their approach was sound. I found the book helpful. It lists, for example, herbs that might be contradicted if you're taking hormone-blockers. (the licorice root in my favorite herbal tea is contraindicated for tamoxifen, for example)

The Definitive Guide to Cancer, 3rd Edition: An Integrative Approach to Prevention, Treatment, and Healing
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1587613581 

Bren-2007

Pony .. I have to agree with you about your FIL.  The chemo for pancreatic cancer is very debilitating and an 80 year-old man should not be subject to that.  At the most, chemo will give a healthy man another 3 months of life for pancreatic cancer.  The best treatment for that kind of cancer is surgery.  My cousin was recently diagnosed and had her tumor resected.

Bren

Merilee

Rainbowpony

I am sorry for the loss of your father in law. That must have been quite a trauma for you and your family. I recently lost my brother to  lung cancer when his spread to his brain before we even knew he had it.  No indication at all until he had a seizure one day last June. He died in May.

Tragic to say the least.

What are you doing in the way of natural remedies for yourself? I see it has been 9 months since  your diagnosis. I also see that your tumor was 4 cm. Are you willing to speak to the amount of  regression your tumor has had with the methods you have found?

Merilee

I recently checked out a cd from the library called Eating Right for Cancer survival by Neal D. Barnard MD. Among many things, one thing he talked about that I had not heard before is the role of fiber for hormone positive cancers. Anyone else seen this or heard anything about the importance of fiber? He has a very nice visual of how the liver pushes excess hormones into the digestive track and without fiber he says the hormones get reabsorbed, not good for those of us with hormone +, but with lots of fiber the fiber sucks up the hormones and moves them out.

ruthbru

Don't know about the fiber and hormones, but we definitely should be eating it either way as a guard against colon cancer and other digestive problems. My GP says that if everyone ate a serving of prunes a day, it would really cut the colon cancer rates (plus they are excellant for the bones).

Anonymous

Can we at least agree to stop talking about how "awful" chemotherapy is - or how it is or isn't used in cancers other than bc. AND NO ONE HAS FORCED CHEMOTHERAPY ON ANYONE POSTING HERE EITHER.

rainbowpony - you have started several threads, why don't you, as several other posters have suggested, start one that you want and talk all you want to about what you don't like about chemotherapy.  That is not what this thread was created to discuss.

Merilee

Rainbow Pony

I know what you mean. I was never so shocked in my life when I got my diagnosis. No family history, I ate well, all the right things to NOT get it. Then at age 49 wam! a big terrifying kick in the teeth. And I also knew nothing about it to start with. It is definitely a learning journey on many levels. I like the whole food supplements too but am slowly learning how to get what I need from food. I see a naturapath who is guiding me a bit and I read at least two books a week. It seems like by the time I eat everything I need for "food as medicine" I barely have any room in my belly for anything else. Do you find this to be true for you as well?

Merilee

I recently discovered dried misson figs, yum!

I recently read a book I think you would like. It was called Raw Energy.

Anonymous

This is not a competition.  If you want to post a thread about the evils of chemotherapy, go ahead.  I am tired of reading your links to "miracle cures" - and having others who are trying to have a thread about Complementary and Intergratiive Healing subjected to more propaganda about your view of chemotherapy.

As I told the Moderators, it that happened on this thread, I would DELETE my OP, so as not be be associated with ANYTHING like that.

Merilee

I did find a nice little recipe for broccoli which is highly recommended. It is just  broccoli, chopped onions, raisins, and a little bit of organic canola mayo. (or  you can make a dressing out of Greek yoga rt). You let it set over night and it is great the next day.

Did you gals know that if you chop your onions and let them set for 10 minutes that they become more nutritious. I think if I remember righit is because they release an enzyme that is good for us.

Same for garlic

thenewme

Hi Caerus,

I've always hesitated to use the ignore button, but I've now seen the light!  It's actually my latest addition to my "complementary and integrative approach to healing."  Sometimes I wonder why I bother coming here, but other times I really enjoy *most* of the people here (those who come in good faith).

Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It only wastes your time and annoys the pig.

Merilee and Ruthbru - I agree about the importance of fiber!  For general health - it really does have tons of proven health benefits!

Merilee

So what kinds of healing  food goodies have some of you gals found?

Anonymous

Thenewme, read my edited OP.

I will be going back to SusieQ's thread.  As the OP of another thread, who turned out to be the only person posting there, wants to turn this into another food fight.  just so sad...

see you at SusieQ's - with our ignore button on