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  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 3,162
    edited January 2014

    Happy New year!!!! wishing you all health, love, and prosperity ;)

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    Aly, give it a try, what are they going to do , send us all 50-70 somethings to jail.  Have to admit here in this locale the local small town newspaper publishes county arrests, many are related to pot use. So, it is a bit scary. Just by us writing about it we are all being monitored. I'm guessing we are put into a category or classification that only the government understands.

    Don't know about the south lands, but here since 9/11, the monitoring systems on all forms of communication. ALL. If you use certain words, the system will pick it up and monitor activity looking for subversive activity.  We were free at one time. Now George Orwell's predictions in 1936 as written in his book "1984" have all come true. The citizens accept them as normal and even support them. So much for freedom. Oh well. Edmund Burke, Voltaire, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams......... it would be a wonder to see what they would write today.

    But back to pain relief, if you tried it and it helped, lordy , Aly, your combo of origins of pain are as you know only to well are very difficult to control. Try taking a pinch about the size of your small nail and eat it versus smoking. That's my approach.

    The problem in a state that it's not legal is you can't talk about it with your doc b/c you don't want it in your medical record that you use an illegal drug. AND there is no documentation of how it interacts with other drugs. So, it's not good from any prospective. But uncontrolled pain, what are you to do.  We are in a very bad state with the law right now. The irony is the public will soon force the issue and it will become legal. In the meantime people will suffer.

    DeTocqueville from France in 1851 wrote in is book "On America", that one of the unique things about Americans was,  that if they didn't agree with a law they simply didn't follow it. Not much has changed. He used to work for Napoleon. Fairly ironic observation on his part considering who his old boss was.


  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2014

    Natalie Wood Sass!  I'm 2 pages back, but I'll catch up.... just watch! 

    Okay miss Smartypants!  Try Chicken-sitten' in my coop-crocs!  I have my old special crocs for going in their coop...  I don't even have to explain why....Winking

    It's funny, because when the "girls" see us coming, they start their chirping & clicking noises...  Then when they are eating, they are quit, and just hang around my legs.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    Maddy, , sleep hmmm not normal, but I have finally some time ago, come to terms with it, I sleep when I sleep, and when I don't by what is considered normal , I just accept that it will eventually come.  Then I'll have a whole period that I just sleep and sleep and sleep. It's entirely unhealthy, but .............In the period that you are in now, I was so desperate for sleep, as you are now. The best advice I got in that time came from ChrissyB about melatonin. Melatonin and Ativan then was my panacea. My dose was high, but I had to be knocked out to let go of wakefulness. Haven't used that phrase before. Likely should explore it with counselor. But even as I write, the absolute insanity of 2009 till now, what can I say, I kept trying to work towards normal. Just as I could see normal insight, something would happen. Oh well. I'll pull a Scarlett O'Hara on that one for the forseeable future.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    Aly, you might be a candidate for fentanyl. It was a great pain controller in the worst of time when I used the AI's.  I'll send you a link by Pm . I did a lot of explanation on it's use that is not orthodox. I won't bump it b/c of several reasons. The combination of several origins of pain is unique to our situation. We are way outside of the usual awful pain.

    okay Loveys, going to try sleep..........have a wonderful day :) L&H&P's sheila

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited January 2014

    Aly my personal use of Fentynol was it did alleviate the pain, but I was even more  useless than I am now,  so it might be exactly what u need to help u. Sas knows all about pain meds and she's probably right  when she says  u'd be a candidate for it. It's a very protected drug here with all kinds of rules how u get it. They guard it fiercely.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited January 2014


    Chevy u'r up, I can't even keep my eyes open now been up a couple of hrs.washed a load of clothes and they are almost dry now.  I've been on a goofy tired kick lately, so when I woke up I thought it was morning---the snow makes it so much lighter out, now I'm really tired again..

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited January 2014

    Sas- that would be Natalie Wood!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2014

    Yes Littlegoats!  Blackeyed peas are supposed to bring good luck for the New Year.. Oh dang, you already got Natalie Wood... Ha!   I wanted to pretend I remembered something important.... shut up Cammie....

    Maddy, what quote that Littlegoats gave you?  I love quotes...  That's funny, you smokin' with me and Willie and Paula....  I would probably try it, but I'm afraid it would do something to my brain!  And I'm leery of my brain anyway....image  Cammi!  go back to sleep.

    Happy New Year CindyCrog... 

    And HAPPY NEW YEAR 44444444HE'Sajollygoodfellow!    How are your new ones?  Do you have nips yet?   Oh, I see you answered that.  Do you NEED them?  Go buy some somewhere...  if you want them...  Or just stick jelly-beans in your bra whilst out shopping.

    You guys, Teka, and Holeinone, are still talking about New Years almost here....  Ha! 

    GrammaB has to wait until midnight to drink champagne?   I would not let the hour interfere!  Drink heartily gals!

    Morning Paula!  I woke up just before midnight, and heard fireworks!  I actually HEARD them, and then looked out my window, and what did I see?  The most beautiful fireworks up in yon sky!  I was happy!  They really WERE beautiful.... all 4 of them! 

    And good morning Blessings!  Hope you slept well!    You too MostlyMom! 

    Sass, what are you doing?  You have walls all over the place!  And you are falling all over them.  And jelly sandwiches.... WTH?  It's okay though, because I understand everything you said...  image

    It's scary, because you could analyze me...  you can probably read my mind...Ha!  and Cammi, if you say a WORD, I will know it! 

    You can talk yourself into forgiving... sometimes...  If you can focus on the "better" things they did...  watch them when they are not looking,  and say to yourself, "how would I be without him?"   Then you will feel like letting them come back into your heart... 

    If you never get that feeling, then they weren't supposed to be near you. 

    Happy New Year Littlegardens!  Yes, fireworks are illegal HERE too, along with a few other things.... oh wait...  Nope, weed is now legal here...  Ha!   Not that it made any difference beFORE! 

    Sass, I was going to ask.... about the HYN.... but figured you were speaking in code or something..

    Alyson... hope you can feel better today...  Do you have herniated discs?   Is that the problem?  I went through that and Sciatica about 20 years ago, and that pain is un-believable.   I put up with it for almost 2 years...  then a double Laminectomy, and I was okay after that...

    You know, maybe you SHOULD try it... I mean weed...  I've been told it really DOES help the pain somehow...   I mean it couldn't hurt....   The surgeon,  a (Neuro-surgeon) is the one that knew right away, by seeing me walk, and dragging my leg, what the problem was...   The surgery was a relief!  That pain was GONE!  And it was constant... 

    Oh?  So now the CAMMI is giving us lessons on proper weed-smoking etiquette?????     And yes, it SHOULD be legal.... oh wait... it IS!    So we all need to go out and buy a bong?   Or eat brownies, or what now? 

    I think my Brother "did it"....  Ha!  But I KNOW DH did.... He told me so, before we got married.  And yes, I said I KNOW my 2 DD's did it...  and  they are still "normal.."  Ha!   Just not in front of me...  I've just never been around anyone "doing it... "...... 

    Oh wait...  I DID it, but not smoke weed... is that what you mean? 

    Man, I don't NEED to smoke weed, if this conversation is any indication, right?  

    ClodhopperCAMMI!  yes... you did.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2014

    Cammi!  don't go!  Can you stay a minute?

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2014

    Sassy, I just tried to find out if they caught the people that stole my identity or credit-card number...  There is no way to do that...

    I also found this... they can steal your information from your cards, with a ...... Smart Phone.....

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Digital-pickpockets-using-technology-to-steal-credit-cards-208613001.html?tab=video&c=y

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited January 2014

    good morning everyone and Happy New Year or HNY per SAS LOL. 

    Love the WTF owl.  What a hoot! (pun intended)

    Back late Mon from FL.  Sheila great to meet you & here's another ((hug)).  Spent a few hrs yesterday catching up on this prolific thread.  Yes I read it all, had to, SAS isn't the only OCD'er here LOL.  In fact, today I will read through all the newspapers that DH stacked up for me, and I will read them in date and section order.

    RE: marijuana, it's a beneficial medicinal plant that should be legal.  I offer no personal proof as it's still illegal here but would if I could.  For the religious, including the many conservatives in positions of political authority, I offer the word of G-d.  In Genesis (ch 1 v 9), S/HE created seed-bearing plants and it was good.  In Genesis (ch 1 v 29), S/HE created people and gave us "every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth."  If that's not a description of pot IDK what is. 

    L&H&P's to all.  ♥

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited January 2014

    Catch up around here? Fuggedaboudit! It is worse than STFU is! Ok, Happy New Year owlettes! We are going out for a steak dinner this afternoon cause we stayed home last night. I eat so little beef these days that I am looking forward to it!

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited January 2014

    April it was "only" 25 pages.  I was expecting 100!  Loopy

    DH and I are both off work today.  Maybe we'll catch a movie matinee. "Frozen" is appropriate to the day.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Well I am four pages behind....sound familiar.  That is what I get for blinking my eyes.  I hope you all had a wonderful, wonderful New Years' Eve and are looking forward to all the promise of beginning anew.  Every year, we get a chance to do over, make amends, or whatever else may not have been all we wanted it to be.  Cheers and warmth to all.  Happy 2014 one and all.

    Lilli

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited January 2014

    Whoo-Hoo!   So many posts ;o)

    I love both photos in the topic header.ThumbsUpSillyHeart

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited January 2014

    Again I rest a little and I'm way behind, I was reading to fast and Chevy I thought I read u had a lobotomy so then I thought well, she's not that bad, so I reread u'r post--I guess u didn't have one. Or u didn't admit it anyway. Well it's ok I STILL LOVE YOU. I HOPE U CAN READ THIS ALL RIGHT.

    It's still snowing here, we actually didn't get to much but it's on and off and feels damp cold.

    Oh my kids just came home, after a night of debauchery and drinking. That made me laugh.

    Well I hope everyone has a wonderful day. AND U TOO CHEVY.

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited January 2014

    Chevy - I think the quote was posted by Smaarty but I can't find it but just getting used to this thread.

    Went to bed between 11:30 and 12 am. Fireworks are legal out here one of the benies of living rural. It's been nicely wet so no trouble with fires, though fire engine drove out this way about 1:30 am. We have paid firemen weekdays and volunteer nights/weekends/holidays. When the economy went bust too many vol. had to get jobs out of town or could not get off from local jobs so they hired day staff. It was just too cold for me to stand and watch anything outside so it was just pop/pop around. Some guy behind us had last week what sounded like a cannon. Scared the c**p out of DD and me since we're still having small earthquakes and sure sounded like the one I felt sev. weeks ago. I didn't hear it yesterday. Shooting is legal too but supposed to be on 10 or more acres. They hunt down our creek; deer season ends this weekend.

    I think we have a feral hog starting to dig up outside the goat yard. Deep hole, too deep for armadillo or raccoon. Neighbor across creek has pack of dogs housed that hunt hogs. Surprised he came in that close esp. since forage not bad. We have come out of drought just a bit around metroplex.

    DH has me helping with yard chores later OH JOY. But it is going to be warmer day but windy - blowing in change for tomorrow. Sassy DH is NOT a football fan. I will turn it on more than he does. Will watch I'm sure Baylor later (DB/SIL may have gone to AZ to the game) and some of Univ. of North Texas - both DD and I alum. of there.

    I had my one glass of wine and didn't even finish it. Maybe try to make some (HA some that would be 2) margaritas later. I bought some fancy/schmacy orange liquer (Gran-Gran) that a friend put in hers - OOO so good.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    badger, I'm a Bible believing Christian conservative. There, I said it! Did everybody leave the room?

    I absolutely believe marijuana should be legalized, even though I don't smoke it anymore. In 1988 I was in my second trimester of pregnancy for my youngest son. I had given up all meds, aspirin, etc. I didn't drink or do anything that might jeopardize that precious child. Then I dislocated my knee. Doctors couldn't X-ray me or give me any meds because of the pregnancy. I'm heavy, so it was nearly impossible to walk with cructches. I was 37, but hobbled around like I was 90. One evening DH, who wasn't yet DH at the time, suggested I smoke a bit of his weed. He insisted one time wouldn't hurt the baby. I took a few tokes. (Maybe 3) ten minutes later I was amazed that for the first time in a week I was completely pain free! 

    The next day I went back to the ER. They decided to put a brace on my knee. While I was sitting in a wheelchair, a PCA sat on one of those rolling stools to put the brace on. When she lifted my knee up it popped really loud and I yelled. She was very apologetic. What we soon realized was, she had put my knee back in place. Ironic that she accidentally did what the doctors should have known to do.

    I have a nephew who has horrible anxiety. He uses marijuana. It makes him much more mellow. I can easily tell when he doesn't have it. I would definitely vote to have it legalized.

    Imagine what it could do for our economy if it was legalized.

    Paula

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited January 2014

    Doctor supervised.ThumbsUp

  • Pawprint
    Pawprint Member Posts: 464
    edited January 2014

    Omg ....I am so far behind. I am trying to catch up. Reading posts about Cami's phone, Chevy's state  getting marijuana legalized. I'm so sorry Sas and Aly have so much pain. Maddy, I hope you finally got some sleep. I spent New Years Eve in urgent care. Have upper respitory infection. Got 3 medications and spending the morning watching the new years parade on tv. I hope all of you Owlettes have a wonderful, happy, healthy New Year. 

  • blondiex46
    blondiex46 Member Posts: 5,712
    edited January 2014

    Paw feel better....

    just sitting here watching hallmark alone with the cat so guess I am not alone...lol

    all the talking about pot, when I get nausous again guess i will try it again, it really works...

  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited January 2014

    chevyboy-can you get a pic of you with chicken-sitting, chicken-sitting, chicken-sitting, before the owners get back? I'm sure we all would love to see them! (That's hard to type too!)

    Golly, 3 new pages overnight. Feeling less tight this morning. SAS-do foobs sag with time like real boobs or will they always stay upright and perky?

    (Haven't finished reading all the pages yet)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    morning (at least here it still is) Chevy! Am confused, maybe it's from only 4 hours of sleep. Don't know of a quote from Littlegoats, but Smaarty had a great quote on p. 208, around the middle of the page. Not sure what device you have (don't read anything into that!), quickly scan for a box with a black background. Not aware of anything else.

    GrammaB, changed my avatar to show my fraidy cat hiding. Funny thing, she has never gone near that cat post so it was odd seeing her there, like she owned the place. Needed a photo because the family wouldn't have believed me if I just told them as that's not her personality. 

    Pawprints, how are you doing? Haven't heard from you in a while, hope you're ok and not waiting for your mail carrier to give them a piece of your mind!

    *edited: Pawprint, you snuck in while I wasn't paying close attention. Sorry you spent NYE in urgent care, that's the pits! Had to spend New Year's Day (as well as Thanksgiving Eve) in ER with DD a couple years ago, that sucks.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited January 2014

    Legal here as of today! There was an hilarious discussion on the news about where the pot plants would come from. Surely they knew. Medical use has been legal here for some time.

    Aly, great sympathy coming your way. I had sciatica at the end of my pregnancy and it was SO painful.

  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited January 2014

    Luvmygoats-you have earthquakes in Texas?  Really? Even though I have lived in CA my whole life, even 2 years in the SF area, have never felt an earthquake.

  • Pawprint
    Pawprint Member Posts: 464
    edited January 2014

    Smaarty...great idea about Chevy posting a pic. Blondiex46, sounds very relaxing watching Hallmark channel with your cat. Wren44, so it's legal there too? You are right, they have always known where the plants would come from. Apparently it's going to be a big growing business :) I am here Maddy, just taking my medications, sitting on the sofa under my heated throw watching the rose parade. We had people in my area shooting guns up into the air. Maybe they don't understand what goes up must come down , geez!

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited January 2014

    My first earthquake here was pretty mild. I was using my old and cranky computer when I started moving. My first thought was that it was possessed. I retreated to the doorway to watch it, thereby doing the correct thing. The second one I watched the living room wall with the huge window go up and down like waves. I thought, a wall can't do that; then, but it is. Third one I was at work and crawled under my desk hoping the building was sturdier than it looked.

    Luv, are they fracking near you?

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited January 2014

    love the new owl...he is keeping watch over us...:)

    Paw print , sorry you got sick, just getting over my stinkin throat infection

    Soteria, happy that you have such an open mind...

    Luvmygoats, enjoy those gritas, I might have one myself later on....

    Happy New Years Day....lots to chit chat about but I'm heading to the bowling alley...

    Golfgirl

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    yay, P-print out of hiding! Rose Parade? Second showing? Maybe if we're up to it next year, work on decorating the floats?

    Smaarty, you been in Cali your whole life and never felt an earthquake? Oh my, you must be 20! Let's see, the big Northridge earthquake around '72, was in the bathroom. There was one in the '80's, epicenter near Downey, right near where I worked, no a single window in the modular bldg I was in, earthquake caused immediate blackout, zero light as as in pitch black darkness, I ran into a partition until the emergency lights came on a couple minutes later. Seems like we get a lot in summer, at night, sleeping. But the best was the '94 Northridge earthquake, I was very pregnant with DD, she was actually due that day, was sleeping at the time. When the house started shaking (creaking and windows rattling) was up, out of bed and across the room before my feet hit the ground, with a belly like I was carrying an elephant. Was scared when I went to the hospital we would have an aftershock but we didn't thankfully.

    Edited: actually it was the Whittier quake, epicenter still only a couple miles from where I was

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