Double Helix Water

lorieg

Anyone heard anything about double helix water?  I am not at all saying it is any sort of cure for anything.  Someone mentioned it to me, and I read a little bit online, but I was just wondering if anyone else has heard this discussed.

That's all.  TIA!

dimmyjoy

I lost my sister to breast cancer 10 years ago and I wish I had know about Double Helix Water then. I have done a lot of research on it and I've had 2 prior cancers as well, Lung cancer 10 yrs ago & malignant melanoma in 95.  I've heard very good reports about results with cancer and I've been using for 2 years and love it.  I wish you the best of luck.   Dimmyjoy

motheroffoursons

Tia, I wish this was a cure.

However, this double helix water is a scam.  Here is an article about it. 

http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/07/double-helix-water-more-magic-water-quackery/

From what I understand they claim to have found another "phase" of water, water that exists as a crystal in liquid water.

Anybody ever read Cats Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut?  Sounds just like it.  An isotope of water that is solid and room temperature.  It was a book of fiction and was one of my favorites when in college..

There are a couple of technical sounding articles when this subject is googled, but none of them are from reputable sources and get swallowed up in the goobley-gook.  I read somewhere it is $100 a bottle.  Just give me some fancy plain bottled water.

lorieg

That is pretty much what I thought...scam.  One of the researchers though is associated with a major and reputable university so I thought that was odd.  A friend of a friend has some type of terminal cancer and was told to try it by her doc at a major cancer institution.  If I had not heard that story I would have never even asked. 

Thanks.

dimmyjoy

Hi Tia,

I also felt that this might be to be to good to be true until I started to use it myself and continued to do my research.  I can tell you that I will continue to use this. I have never felt better  I found that the technology was published in a major International Physics Journal and that's no small feat.   I saw the publication on the double helix water website and was very impressed.  I know for a fact that it's very hard to get accepted into these peer reviewed journals.  They don't take scams.  And you are right, CAL TECH is a very prestigious university.....

Thanks, DJ 

motheroffoursons

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/ATEG/

Hi DJ,

This link has multiple references showing this is a scam, and how the article ended up in a physics journal, and not peer reviewed or only cursorily.  There are a few "old" inactive links listed on this site also.

From what I understand is that water moleucles, being polar, are attracted to each other.  This polarity is what makes water a good solvent.  Water molecules form water clusters, not double helix crystals, and these clusters exist for a short time,measured in femtoseconds.  Then the water forms new clusters with other water molecules as a result of the polarity.

Even a glass of water from the faucet would probably have the same properties.

That is my understanding and I still believe the expensisve double helix water site is a scam.

Husband11

Even if it does exist in some elusive moment of time, does it have any therapeutic properties?

dimmyjoy

Like I said previously, I can attest to what I have experienced with the water and it does have very significant therapeutic affects.  Not only with some medical issues that I have had but it completely  reversed a tumor growth in my dog which was recommended by my Vet.  There are always people who will try to shoot down new things that are out of the norm but it is my opinion that we need to remain open minded and embrace new technology.  After all, people thought the earth was flat!

dimmyjoy 

motheroffoursons

Dimmyjoy, this is an anecdote.  I am glad you feel better, but this does not make it scientifically valid.

I will tell you a story.  During the Middle Ages when people had hepatitis they called a doctor.  Heapatitis causes your urine to turn organge/brown because of excess bilirubin.  The doctors believed that the discolored urine had to be washed out with normal colored urine.  The people were instructed to drink the urine from the public urinals.  Low and behold the "cure" worked. The urine returnted to normal color.  What the people did not realize is that hepatitis A is a self limiting disease and most people recover with their own immune system.

Thank goodness medical practice has improved! 

A signle anecdote does not make a treatment valid.

I think this is a non-existent substance (double helix water) providing a non-existent therapeutic effect.

dimmyjoy

motheroffoursons,

My participation in this blog is not to debate the validity of Double Helix Water with you.  I and hundreds other people have experienced significant improvements with various medical conditions.  Considering that our bodies consist mainly of water and that this particular water creates such a high vibrational energy within our cells it appears to be waking up a self healing mechanism within the body.  So, this is not merely a single anecdote but the findings of 15 years of research and numerous medical studies.  

motheroffoursons

I don't want a debate either.  Glad it helped you.

However, I do not want my breast cancer sisters falling for quackery and false science.  I tend to correct science errors as that is my background.  This is quackery.

Can you tell me any of the medical studies that are NOT from the double helix water web site?  That is proper scientific studies regarding the existence of the double helix water molecule and its evidence of its benefit for the body?

dimmyjoy

Well, as detailed in the Double Helix Water book where clinical studies were done at UCLA by Dr Boniveda, head of the Immunology Department, titled "Induction and Regulation of Human Peripheral Blood",  where it  was shown to improve Cytokine production which has a significant affect on your immune system.  I suggest you pick up a copy of the book and read it.   I know how it has helped with my cancer from reoccuring and I would have given anything to have this for my sister who passed away from cancer.    

iqjr2

You can purchase double helix water for much less than $100 a bottle. Go to Amazon.com you can find it for much less. The gentlemen that discovered this state of water don't claim they know how it works. It is up to the individual to try something new or homeopathic in order to improve their health or state of mind. This is basically another state of water it won't kill you. Medicine won't necessarily cure your cancer and may help weaken your immune system and eventually take your breasts if not your life. Modern health care is also very expensive. If you have cancer what do you have to lose? A little money? I remember radiation treatments for ca. patients in the hospital I worked in years ago, most of the patients died. You could smell them the instant you walked into the patient waiting room. Don't be such a skeptic.

Anonymous

There is no such thing as double helix water and homeopathy does not work period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3-8e77QyiUo