I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

YramAL

Hi Ang7-Prayers for your local family. So tragic. 

Mary 

1Athena1

Ang - that's terrible.

I wonder if The Huffington Post is trying to tell liberals not to be too complacent. Wise move, even though I know Obama will win. But we still have to get out there and vote. He can't win without us.

YramAL

Athena-that's kind of what I felt like The Huffington Post was saying, but it still turned my stomach. There's no danger of me being complacent and not voting, and I'm doing my best to convince others. I got a friend of mine to register to vote for the first time, and she's 50 years old. 

Mary 

Belinda44

Great video of Gloria Steinem supporting our President.

If you're a woman and concerned about healthcare, definitely fast forward to 2:20.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKq0MwnMGcU

alexandria58

Ang:  So sorry for that family.  I can imagine nothing more horrible.

Blue, glad to hear no injections.I was wondering about that too when i heard about the steroids.

I'm swearing off fence peeking, because it just makes me crazy.  For example, referring to messianic Jews  ( who are Christian, not Jewish, because they have converted and believe in the divinity of Jesus. The Jewish religion does NOT need to be completed or fulfilled.) Deep breathing now.  I will not go look again.   

I am concerned about the polls, although I still think Obama will win out.  I cannot believe that this country will elect Romney on the basis of the lies that he told at the debate.

I've been having some stomach issues.  Saw the gastro doc today, said thinks nothing too bad, might be lactose intolerant, but want me to have some routine work done. Have an endoscopy tomorrow - because they happened to have an opening - for reflux, which isn't so bad, and a colonoscopy just to double check other issues in Decm.  Yuck.  If i'm not on line, know that I'm thinking of you folks.

Okay, off to watch Chris, Ed, and Rachel.

YramAL

Alexandria-2 of my co-workers and I are all due for colonoscopies this month. We were joking today that we should have a prep party-we'll mix our prep with something good! I said I can't have it at my house because I only have 2 bathrooms! Don't know if you've had a colonoscopy before, but the prep is the worst part and the actual test was a breeze, for me at least.

Mary 

Enjoyful

Oh Ang...every parent's worst nightmare. I cannot begin to fathom their pain. All my best to them and their families, friends, and neighbors.

pupmom

Alexandria, best wishes on your upcoming tests! I had a colonoscopy a year before my bc dx. Not fun, but good to get them and know what's going on, which is uaually nothing.

I am so offended how Christian fundies use Jews to promote their crazy beliefs. Although they think my husband is going to hell for not converting to Christianity, they have no problem claiming Israel as their heavenly launching pad.  

Wabbit

Fence peeking ... stomach issues ... coincidence? ... I think not.  Just kidding.  Sorry about the icky tests but hope they find nothing wrong and you can come back and give us boring results.

That video just defies comment . 

Ang ... how awful.  Parents worst nightmare.  So sad for them all. 

IllinoisLady

Ang.. many prayers for your "family".  Very sad and I know so hard to bear. 

Alexandria...I too feel some pressure but don't think someone who tells everybody what they wish to hear is going to cut it in the end.  While it may be slow, growth is happening though many will do anything to make small of it.  And, there are three more debates to get through.  One LYING debate does not a victor make.  This is still the one who doesn't even seem to know most of the time what he himself stands for....at least until he has figured out what the guy talking to him wants.  That changes when he gets to the next person.  I lost any semblance of respect for that one long ago. 

Going to finish up here and go watch Rachel & Co. 

Jackie

QuinnCat

I love it!  The only poll worth it's weight last week was Rasmussen, now they're all quoting the Pew Poll.  What happens when Obama gets his lead back? 

Nate Silver at 6pm on Piers Morgan..... 

pupmom

Kam, when that happens it's the "liberal media skewing the polls!" Now, when ONE poll says rMoney is ahead, everything is AOK. 

IllinoisLady

"Ditto"

Jackie

Belinda44

And even though Romney has gobs of money stashed in various overseas accounts and avoided the Vietnam war by going to France, he is patriotic (eye roll!!!)  Ahhhh, the hypocrisy never ends......

YramAL

QuinnCat

Romney Proudly Explains How He's Turned Campaign Around--"I'm Lying More," He Says

 

 For weeks many Beltway insiders had written off the Romney campaign as dead, saying the candidate had dug himself into too deep a hole with too little time to recover. However, with a month to go before ballots are cast, Romney has pulled even with President Obama, and the former Massachusetts governor credits his rejuvenated campaign to one, singular tactic: lying a lot.

“I’m lying a lot more, and my lies are far more egregious than they’ve ever been,” a smiling Romney told reporters while sitting in the back of his campaign bus, adding that when faced with a choice to either lie or tell the truth, he will more than likely lie. “It’s a strategy that works because when I lie, I’m essentially telling people what they want to hear, and people really like hearing things they want to hear. Even if they sort of know that nothing I’m saying is true.”“It’s a freeing strategy, really, because I don’t have to worry about facts or being accurate or having any concrete positions of any kind,” Romney added.Romney said he is telling at least 80 percent more lies now than he was two months ago. Buoyed by his strong debate performance, which by his own admission included 40 or 50 instances of lying in one 90-minute period, the candidate said he will continue to “just openly lie [his] ass off” until the Nov. 6 election.Whether it’s a senior citizen, military family, working mother, businessman, or middle-class American, Romney said, he will lie to every single one of them as often as he can if that’s what it takes to win the presidency.“The best part is, it’s really easy to lie,” said Romney, who added that voicing whatever untruths come into his mind at any given moment is an easy thing to do because all it requires is opening his mouth and talking. “For example, if someone accuses me of having a tax plan that makes no discernable sense, I just lie and say that I do have a tax plan that makes sense. I also say there is a study that backs up my plan. See that? Simple. None of it is remotely true, of course, but now we’re moving on to the next topic because people are usually too afraid to ask me straight up if I’m lying, because that is apparently not something you ask someone who is running for president.”Moreover, Romney said, if anyone does accuse him of lying, he will simply say he is not lying, which he noted is just an extension of the overall strategy.“So, if I’m talking to retirees,” Romney continued, “I lie and say I’ll fight tooth and nail to save Medicare, which causes them to applaud. On the other hand, if I’m talking to the party base, I lie and say we have to cut Medicare, which causes them to applaud. So, you see, my goal here is to get everyone applauding for me, because if everyone is clapping their hands, standing on their feet, and shouting my name, that means they like me and will vote for me.”Romney’s campaign advisers said that they adopted the strategy of lying a lot after realizing several things: (1) Lying sounds good, especially when the truth sounds bad, (2) the Americanmedia doesn’t care if you lie, (3) the American people don’t care if you lie, and (4) it’s okay to lie if you are very, very desperate to become the president of the United States.“If we’re going to be carried into the White House, it’s going to have to be on a wave of lies,” Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades said. “Most important, Mitt is comfortable when he is lying because then he doesn’t have to say anything bad. And in this last month it’s important that we just let Mitt be Mitt, whoever the hell that is.”“It’s late in the game, but this campaign has finally found its groove,” Rhoades added. “And that groove is lying. Bald-faced, make-no-apologies, dirty, filthy lying.”According to Romney, amidst all the lies, there is only one thing that remains true.“I literally have no clue where I stand on any single issue at this point,” said Romney, adding that when it comes to women’s rights, gay rights, health care, the middle class, the economy, or the U.S. military, all he knows is how to lie about them. “I understand what other people want. And what I’ve learned, especially in the past week, is that in order to be a viable candidate for the White House, that’s all you really need to know.”Following the interview, Romney told various reporters that, if elected, he would save thenewspaper industry.

 

rosemary-b

Oh Anj how awful

RetiredLibby

Ang, I am traveling so I haven't seen the local news, but I know which missing boy you you told us about. I am so sorry and so horrified they found his body ... I was hoping for a better outcome.



Here is a GREAT article and endorsement of President Obama by former Senator Larry Pressler, Republican of South Dakota. The Repugs are succeeding beyond anyone's wildest dreams at driving reasoned, principled individuals right into the fold of the Democratic (DemocraTIC, please, not "Democrat Party," lest you want to sound like that drooling George Bush) Party. I am going to look for Chuck Hagel's endorsement, too.



Pressler's endorsement here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-pressler/larry-pressler-obama_b_1948415.html



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Belinda44

Enjoyful

LIKE!

suzieq60

Blue - hope you get some pain relief.

Ang - how sad - his poor family.

IllinoisLady

copied from Kam's post:

Too bad this could not be placed in some of the ad campaigns:

Romney's campaign advisers said that they adopted the strategy of lying a lot after realizing several things: (1) Lying sounds good, especially when the truth sounds bad, (2) the Americanmedia doesn't care if you lie, (3) the American people don't care if you lie, and (4) it's okay to lie if you are very, very desperate to become the president of the United States.

"If we're going to be carried into the White House, it's going to have to be on a wave of lies," Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades said. "Most important, Mitt is comfortable when he is lying because then he doesn't have to say anything bad. And in this last month it's important that we just let Mitt be Mitt, whoever the hell that is."

have to say though the REAL Mitty boy has stood up.  Nearly every word resonated through me like a NEON sign.  Liar-Liar....pants and everything else on  fire.  As I don't believe in hell, even Mitty won't get there for this --- but oh that Karma when it comes. 

Jackie

Ang7

Yes, HL, I thought you might know of the boy that was missing.

I know we don't know the whole story yet, but it just makes our world seem so sad.

Hugged my kids a bit tighter tonight.

River_Rat

Ang, I'm so sorry to hear that.

Jackie, Kam's piece was from the Onion, it's satire. But it says something how close satire is to real life doesn't it? 

Anonymous

This is especially for Kam:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2012/ceo-pay-ratios/

Ang, deepest sympathy to all your friends and neighbors, was reading about this online, and it is so tragic. Can't imagine living through something like this, but hope all the people around them will be a comfort.

AnneW

I think one thing that's really an eye-opener is Robme's "litmus test" for funding. Is it worth borrowing from China for?? War with Iran (or Libya or whomever)=yes. Education, PBS, infrastructure=not so much.

I don't trust this guy. His bravado about the ambassador's death and not so veiled threats that we should retaliate with military force just give me the chills. Read between the lines of his talk at VMI the other day. This man is danger on a stick. He's a bully ands wants everything done HIS way. Not presidential material. Not by a long shot. But he's not Obama.

And maybe that sentiment is the even scarier one...

Off to work with day 8 of a nasty cold, not much voice, and can't breathe thru my nose without nasal sprays (which I rarely use!) Will have low tolerance for students who come seeking cures for the cold they shared with me...

Anonymous

Good Morning - putting all 4 paws on the LOVE button for AnneW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZxs09eV-Vc&feature=youtu.be

crazy4carrots

Romney and Netanyahu -- Sheldon Adelson's puppets.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/us-moguls-paper-with-pro-netanyahu-political-stand-irks-critics/article4597803/

gardengumby

Ang, I am so very sorry to hear the boy died.  What a shame.

HL - thank-you so much for the link to Senator Pressler's endorsement.

Kam - that was a great piece from the Onion.  Although it was satire, it was certainly an accurate description of what's going on with the campaign!! 

lewing

Hi, sisters . . . I've been away for ages, but decided to dip a toe (paw?) back in.  I'm in touch with some of you by other means, but I've been missing others and see that there's a whole bunch of new (to me, anyhow) folks in the conversation.  I've skimmed the last few pages, and I really enjoy your insights and humor and the support found here.

I'll stop with that, other than to add my sympathy to Ang to extend to her neighbors.  What devastating news - I have no words except I'm so very, very sorry.

Linda