I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

River_Rat

Sunflowers, I love coriander too but call it cilantro. I don't grow it though because so few in my family like it. I wonder if I planted it in a pot if it would do well if I brought it inside for the winter?

Anonymous

rr - when I call it cilantro, my friends say "whaaaa?"  Definitely will grow in a pot, sunny window sill.  I have it all year round.  I buy it at farmstand as a seedling, small plant, put in a much bigger pot, and keep outside, til frost, then bring it indoors for the winter,nest year put that one in the ground, and start the process all over again.  If you have gardener friends, I'll bet someone has a seedling, they spread as much as dill does.  I always have seedlings sprouting up, but I use so much, I like to keep pots going too.

Anonymous

Speaking of Nepal, ok we were talking about India, close tho ;-)

Favorite food there - lentils, tomatoes & lotsa cilantro, lemon,  Yummy.

River_Rat

Thanks Sunflowers I will have to ask around...but if I can't get a free seedling it won't cost all that much to buy anyway. I do love lentils and tomatoes and sometimes pick up a bit of cilantro in the grocery just for my little self. If I don't have cilantro I lean towards some pretty awesome curry powder, or if I'm feeling kind of sweet some garam marsala.

rosemary-b

Last summer my tomatoes fed the woodchucks, not me so none this year but we have glorious herbs. spearmint, chocolate mint, cat mint, lemon balm, lemon verbena, sage, basil, lavender  and oregano. The oregano is in a container and still inside because I can't move it. I hope it does not die before I get it outside again. It is in the container because that stuff spreads like crazy.

QuinnCat

RL - I have two sari's I bought in Calcutta in the mid-90's.  They are pretty high end - gold leaf.  Rajasthani with all of the puckers that were hand tied and dyed.  I had this idea to use them for interior decorating, but alas, I never wanted to wash the puckers out (silk, anyway).  There's a story behind buying those sari's on a Sunday afternoon, but for another day.  I would much rather wear a Salwar Kameez.  I've noticed Indians, since I was there, are wearing more and more westernized clothing.  It's a shame.  

I didn't know cilantro was so easy to grow.  I looked for starts but couldn't find any this year.  Is it easy to grow from seed?  I love it and it aways seems like such a waste to buy a whole bunch when one only needs a little for any recipe.

Rosemary - the deer got my tomatoes last year (found them, they were fine the year before), so this year I literally threw 5 tomato plants in the ground and called it a day.  If I get a few, great....not going to put up a fence.  My lettuce, kale and collards are doing great, though.  I wish I could eat it fast enough as the warms days are here.

Anonymous

kam - super easy to grow from seeds, and spreads like WILD weeds - so if anyone you know has an herb garden with it, they've gotta have a seedling that's ready to LEAVE

I giggle at the thought of some of the mulch piles around here - they're like little herb gardens!

suzieq60

Do you all approve this practice?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2014/03/30/nbc-allergic-mentioning-islam-they-warn-female-genital-mutilation-usa

 

gardengumby

ok.  I'm going to try to do this on my phone.

Suzie, there are any number of things I don't like about most all religions, and that includes both Christianity and Islam.  There have been highly notorious Christian groups in the US that have forced children to marry at ridiculously young ages, but that doesn't mean that Christians as a whole approve of the practice.

Many awful things are now and have always been done in the name of one religion or another. Often when one takes the time and effort to look into the actual teachings the actions have been based on... Well, it's quite a reach.

There are many wonderful people who are Muslim, just as there are many wonderful people who are Christian, and probably every other religion on the face of the earth.  For me to say I hate any specific religion, simply because I don't like some of the actions made by a minority of the members in the name of the faith would be hurtful to the many wonderful people who are of that faith but don't necessarily follow or believe the same.  For me to then use the actions of that minority again to provide further "proof" that my hatred/fear/anger is justified doesn't calm the waters, instead it pours fuel on the fire.

You are a smart woman who has done well in the business world. You know how business works.  Businesses want more customers. Whenever possible they will do what they can to expand their customer base.  The change du jour is to be halal certified.  No doubt you haven't seen kosher in the market. I never doubted your statement. I don't really "see" it either because it's not important to me AND IT'S BEEN HEAVILY IN USE FOR A LONG TIME.  Being halal certified is a relatively new thing for many businesses, and they are trying to expand into this market. Therefore they make a big deal of it.

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.  I personally would never be remotely interested in converting, but many have and will continue to do so.  That move makes many Christians - especially fundamentalists nervous.  They make big news about the less palatable things that some Muslims do in an effort to drive as many wedges as the can between us. I personally try not to let that happen.

River_Rat

GG, responding to your point. One of my biggest gripes (way stronger than a gripe but the proper word won't come) is the way that for some reason the majority of those Catholic priests that abused children haven't faced the legal system. In most cases it has been left to the church to handle the situation, many times they simply moved the offending priest from one parish to another. However, I don't blame all Catholics for this as my Catholic friends are just as livid at this as I am. 

bluedahlia

Fox News at it again.  OMG.....slugs!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2014/06/04...

kayfh

Gardengumby. That was gentle, and very eloquent.  If it does not engender any self reflection in our antepodian friend, I don't know what will. Take a deep breath S. And a bit of time for self reflection.  It would be a shame to lose you as  a Breast Cancer Friend.

suzieq60

I am a nonbeliever and do agree other religions aren't pure - although I do like the new Pope.

djd

When I see "newsbusters" in the link, I stop reading right there.  Not a credible news source...biased and alarmist.

Suzie - you started off this whole shitstorm by saying, "I am not racist, but [insert bigoted remark here]".  Since then, ladies have tried to point out that your hateful remark indicates the opposite of tolerance.  In response, you have continued to back-track and move the goalposts (bringing up "halal" certification on food products, saying you did not mean hate, playing the victim, etc.) of the discussion.  I don't know what you are trying to accomplish by continuing to perpetuate the subject, but I, for one, wish you would let it go.

 

RetiredLibby

Block, block, block.  Nothing of interest can come from there and the block button removes a major irritant.  It's a shame we have to use it here in our own house.

crazy4carrots

GG -- Just a gentle edit to your post:  there is NOT ONE WORD in the Qu'ran about female genital mutilation.  It is strictly a cultural thing, which many, many, MANY women (and men) in many countries are trying their hardest to end.

suzieq60

I am not a racist - Islam is not a race but a religion. Given the percentage of your Muslim population there is half that of ours, maybe you are not noticing these things going on. I can't believe anyone would condone what some of them do to little girls - even if it was only 1 girl - it's evil. After 911, I'm surprised to find any of you so tolerant.

gardengumby

carrots... That doesn't surprise me in the least. I rather assumed it wasn't, but it often surprises me what scripture is used to promote rather unpleasant (to say the least) practices.

River_Rat

Suzie, I live near Dearborn, Michigan - Google it and you'll find a very large Arabic and Muslim population. My husband and I went to have dinner at an Arabic restaurant in Dearborn a couple of weeks after 9/11, as did many people we know to reassure the population that we didn't blame the population as a whole...that we know 9/11 was not condoned by the majority of the community. I encounter Muslims out and about on a very regular basis. I am done with this line of conversation but you seem unable to let it go. I will now engage the button and you will be but a blue line. Goodbye.

QuinnCat

I'm confused - I thought it was about halal certification?  Maybe it's about anything / anybody Muslim, after all "I hate Muslims" is pretty all encompassing.  Donna is right Suzie.  You are backtracking from your own statement - "I hate Muslims."  There is no retreat from this short of a life changing ephiphany on your part, and frankly, it doesn't sound like you are having one.  

suzieq60

Kam - I did admit that hate was the wrong word to use.

I don't ever discount a news source whether it be Murdoch or any other source. I read and follow all news. Just because you don't like the publisher of something it doesn't mean that it is not true.

Anyway - I'm off - it was fun stirring you all up. I kept my mouth shut for too long on this thread even when I disagreed with your politics. I thought we were friends - my bad.

IllinoisLady

No wonder the Faux News is so bad......the Dr. can't even hear the questions asked for her somewhat apparently  'rehearsed'  and coached speech.  And the farmer hauled another load away.  Such upperfluff bull****.  Well it plays well I'm sure to those who have scorn and disdain in their hearts and souls.  That is a minority.  Still, it would be nice to think they feel even just a teeny wince of shame when they pick up their checks.  That will never happen.  They will keep selling their souls till there is nothing left of them.

Sunny -- I'm with you.  I really don't like have to see Suppressed Posts here in this house.  I have reserved that for the other side and there is nothing but blue lines there.  But, I have great respect for everyone here as you all say so often, so much of what I feel, very eloquently and passionately.  I use to have "words" but they slipped away at some point and I have to read things over and over sometimes before I start to get it. 

Also love that I am able to get many different perspectives.....some from those of different faiths, some from those of different countries....like Alyson or Kay or Blue. 

I try not to get too hung up on religion.....in fact, seeing myself as more of a spiritual being.  I, for the most part accept almost all religions, though draw the line at any that are very extremist.  I recall one of my best friends here......waited until we had been 'friends' for quite some time........and then one day ever so hesitantly, put it out to me that she was Jewish.  I had gotten a bit nervous ( probably picking up on hers ) and was worried about what she was having such a hard time telling me.  My relief was so great.....it was a thrill to hear that was all it was.  She ( well I hope ) did not apparently want to lose me as a friend but did not want to do anything that appeared as though she had something to hide.  After it was finally on the table her relief was just as great as mine.  She was to me.....no different a minute after telling me than she had been all along.  I didn't and still don't think of her so much as Jewish, but think of her as my really good friend.  Always. 

So, I pretty much can be comfortable with most things.  No secret though....I am very opinionated, even if I'm not good at expressing it all.  As well, I'm solidly on the left.  In the past couple of elections I voted straight ticket but in many years past....voted for whomever seemed most capable no matter what party.  Sadly, it seems there is not much of any other party right now.  Just enough to hurl stones, but not enough to get anything realistic done.

Well, enough of me.  I'm off to town shortly.

Jackie

208sandy

There are many muslims in my neighbourhood in Ontario and there have been for many years - there are also many muslims in my apartment building - because I live a an older building with large apartments, most of them are families - the children are lovely and fun and happy, their parents are gracious and very friendly.  It makes me sick at heart to hear anyone attack these people much less one of our BCO sisters - the halal argument isn't working, it is just being used as a cover for racism. 

djd

Suzie - you are the one that used the word "racist" to begin with, so you can drop that line of semantic arguing, as it is nonsense.

As for reading ALL news sources to get your news, well, that is laughable.  To say that you never discount a source of news is absurd.  A news source must have some credibility and a track record of not lying before I will even consider the information it is disseminating. 

Newsbusters is written by and for a small percentage of people on the fringe, who are always screeching and spitting about the MSM and it's mythical liberal bias.  Furthermore, your link, from what I can tell, was to a BLOG on Newsbusters!  It doesn't get any less credible than that!   Hell, Newsbusters even makes Fox News look legitimate.

Not sure why you hung around for so long, but now that you have revealed yourself in all your ignorant glory, I am bowing out of this ridiculous conversation.

pupmom

"Waving" bye to my Strange friends. DH and I are leaving tomorrow morning for one of those terrible Muslim enclaves, Istanbul. 

We'll even be having dinner in one of their homes  Wish me well girls! 

DH wanted me to make sure everybody knows this is SARCASM!

djd

Have a great trip, Yorkie!!

pupmom

Thanks Donna!

River_Rat

Yorkie, I wish you a wonderful meal...and trip.

RetiredLibby

Ohhh, have a wonderful time, Yorkie!  I've never made it to Istanbul, but I hope to when DH retires.  Spent a fair amount of time in Greece, but never made it to Turkey.  And have a delightful meal with your intelligent, charming friends!

L

pupmom

Thanks RR, something tells me it will be totally delicious!