I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

IllinoisLady

gardengumby

Jackie, you are on a ROLL this morning!! 

pip57

Loved the pics of Christians and Muslims protecting one another during prayer.  That is religious freedom. 

ananda8

Pip, Religious freedom is not having to protect one another during prayer. 

Jackie, That post proves Godwin's Law.  "The longer an [internet] discussion goes on, the greater the chance of Nazis being used in the discussion."

Anonymous

what pip said, those were inspiring pictures.

Excellent documentary on PBS on LIfe of Muhammad.  Learned about this important part of the history - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Medina

Happy sunshine from Western MA - with, get ready for it, a touch of Fall in the air...in the 40's at night, and the pumpkin growning in my garden is beginning to turn orange.  Only one, many flowers, and bees, but only one pumpkin.  Well, as last year, will have enough seeds to grow next years.

bluedahlia

Personally, I like the Klingon Proverb!

bluedahlia

Uuuuuuuuummmmmmmm No guff!

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2013/08/22/2513981/gop-congressman-calls-out-fox-news-for-lying-about-the-news/

crazy4carrots

Courtesy Raw Story:

Even so-called birthers who falsely believe that President Barack Obama was Kenyan born and not a legitimate U.S. citizen seem to think that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) won’t have the same problem because “Canada is not really foreign soil.”

The Texas Tribune caught up with on of those birthers, Republican voter Christina Katok, at a tea party rally where Ted Cruz was speaking earlier this week.

Katok said that she never thought Obama met the constitutional standard of “natural born” citizen because, she reasoned incorrectly, that he was born in Kenya. The president was born in Hawaii and has released his birth certificate to prove it.

Earlier this week, Cruz released his Canadian birth certificate to The Dallas Morning News, proving that he was definitely born in a foreign country to an American mother.

But Katok told the Tribune that she wouldn’t hesitate to vote for Cruz.

“As far as I’m concerned, Canada is not really foreign soil,” she explained, adding that she was more worried about the president’s “strong ties to Kenya.” She noted that Obama had not released his long-form birth certificate until after he was elected.

For his part, Cruz has vowed to renounce his Canadian citizenship, which could require a security check and an eight-month waiting period.

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I've got news for Ms Katok:  "Oh yes, it IS foreign soil, but you probably think we're all white up here." 

Anonymous

TEE, HEE, TEE, HEE  "Canada is not really foreign soil" - don't tell the British Royal family...this thread is SUCH a great place to find a giggle...gorgle, chuckle....thank you all...even the "non foreigners" who supply us with such good cheer

Chickadee

Bet she thinks Mexico is.........ya know they don't talk like us......

CherrylH

C4C, next time you're criticized for being foreign and have no business having an opinion about our policies, quote this "leader" of their party.

IllinoisLady

Well that actually seems to prove what goes around comes around.  Point your finger at a "Kenyan" and find out your guy is a Canadian......oh well. Just my personal opinion but he is not bright enough to be President -- not much of the statesman about him that I've noted either. 

Fox News....seems to have bragging rights on being the most watched.....not considering why.  They surely help the Democratic causes and provide some great yuk-yuks along the way.  Of course, they likely do "change" some minds, but it is doubtful it is of real thinking operating beings.  Even I turn on Fox News now and then.....for the laughs, but you can only listen to stupid for so long before you turn the da** thing off to avoid throwing the nearest vase  -- flowers and all, through the t.v. screen.  

Jackie

p.s. -- great idea Cheryl.

bluedahlia

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bluedahlia

GlobalGirlyGirl

bluedahlia - What a great picture of religious acceptance in Egypt. All we hear from Conservatives is how eeeeeevil Muslims are and how the Arab Spring was a huge disaster. 

bluedahlia

I loved it too GGG!

IllinoisLady

Anonymous

Yoooo, hoooo - hope everybody is having a wonderful sunny ( almost end of summer) day.

thought of Blue when I read about Linda Ronstadt....still laughing at the pic of infant on dad's chest..so cute.

rosemary-b

Canada is not foriegn soil but Hawaii is. You can't make this stuff up.

crazy4carrots

From DU:

The Huffington Post’s Jason Cherkis reports on a remarkable encounter between Reina Diaz-Dempsey, a Kentucky public health worker signing people up for insurance coverage under health care reform, and a middle-aged man who approached her booth at the State Fair. After Diaz-Dempsey explained that he will either qualify for tax credits to buy insurance through Kynect (the state’s new insurance marketplace) or an expanded Medicaid pool in October, the man seemed pleased and mused, “This beats Obamacare, I hope.” 

Kynect is actually one of the statewide insurance marketplaces at the heart of Obamacare, and the Medicaid expansion is another provision that stems from the health reform law. But Diaz-Dempsey doesn’t tell the man that — figuring the connection to Obamacare might actually dissuade him from pursuing coverage in a state with terrible public health demographics, where one in every five adults is uninsured. The anecdote is striking for its irony. But it underscores the reality that while some Americans — including many who will benefit immensely from the law — remain opposed to the abstract specter of “Obamacare,” they actually do support its core provisions. 

Polling on the health law has consistently highlighted that paradox. A Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) tracking survey from March found skepticism about “Obamacare” but widespread approval of actual Obamacare policies. Over 75 percent of respondents like the law’s insurance subsidies; 80 percent favor the statewide insurance marketplaces; a staggering 88 percent approve of the small business tax credits to help pay for employees’ health coverage. 

But decidedly fewer Americans realize that these are all things the health law actually does... 

QuinnCat

And if Cruz was actually born in Kenya, rather than Canada, to an American mother, I'm sure Cruz would still be ok to Mr. Katok and his like.  They're racists, period.

QuinnCat

C4C - LOL

A Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) tracking survey from March found skepticism about “Obamacare” but widespread approval of actual Obamacare policies. Over 75 percent of respondents like the law’s insurance subsidies; 80 percent favor the statewide insurance marketplaces; a staggering 88 percent approve of the small business tax credits to help pay for employees’ health coverage. 

the man seemed pleased and mused, “This beats Obamacare, I hope.” 

Same meme - they vote against their best interests and they like things they espouse to hate.  Ignorance lives on.......I like that we call it Obamacare.  Best move Conservatives ever made (sarcasm) naming it that!

lassie11

There might be similar results when people do a survey on who is a feminist.

Many people will say certainly not.

 Nevertheless, they certainly would like equal pay for work of equal value, equal opportunity for career advancement, accessible child care programs, safety from physical harm, the right to vote, the right to own property --- etc etc.

crazy4carrots

Well, there have always been, and always will be, folks who are willfully ignorant, but I do think the ignorance/stupidity of the GOP followers might well have started with Reagan and "trickle-down" economics.  Their "betters", meaning the rich folk, said it was the best economic policy, and even after some 30 years of the proven fallacy of that theory, the GOP still says it works, only now they call the corporate masters "job creators".  Facts be damned; don't listen to Nobel Prize winning economists who told them at the beginning that the only thing "trickle-anything" meant is that corporate profits "trickle-up" to the corporate masters and the workers are left with the dregs.

I'm happy to see Costco and Win-Co, whose companies value their employees and pay them a real living wage, are making record profits, while Walmart's profits are declining.  And the Boeing plant that moved to South Carolina to avoid union workers is failing to the extent that the equipment they're making is being sent back to the Washington plants to be repaired by experienced and well-trained unionized workers before being constructed into Boeing 787s.

Oh, and then there are the idjuts who want to destroy the federal government, conveniently (er, willfully) forgetting about transportation safety, the EPA, federal interstate highways, the FBI, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, and all the other federal responsibilities that allow these same idjuts to live relatively safely and easily in their beloved country.   

IllinoisLady

and then there are the seemingly retarded and stupid Republicans ---  in order to get along with their program.....you have to ignore truth with your whole and complete being.

Alyson

Just popping in to say hi before we begin a very long Sunday. We leave this evening and arrive mid Sunday afternoon. So its approx 30hrs until we arrive in ?Vancouver and Sunday will still have 10 hours to go.

We are in the middle of great debate as the Opposition Labour Party tries to elect a new leader.

Big hugs and really looking forward to meeting some of you.

crazy4carrots

Alyson -- Don't forget to take my phone number with you!  And have a safe, safe journey! 

IllinoisLady

Alyson.....enjoy immensely and stay safe and sound

This article is one of the reasons why Christianity gets a bad rap.  I could do about four pages on this --- one thing verses this other and none of it actually trumps anything.....unless you put on your Christianity holier than thou cloak.  Too many do.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/24/christian-right-whines-upon-learning-that-school-teaches-children-about-all-religions/

Jackie

Jackie

ananda8

Take this quiz on world religions and share your results.  Jews, Mormons and Atheists score highest on the quiz.

http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/