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  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited December 2012

    Oh, I'm HUNGRY all right.  Can you imagine me on the medicinal herb?  I get the munchies and then what

    Chach,  Avocado still too stingy.  May give that recipe a try later.  I can't really imagine the taste of it.  Found some other good ones in Eating Well Through Cancer.  Of course I am dying for some pizza, although tomato sauce would be like torture right now.

                                                                 

    Dechi,  Big high five on getting the port out.  Mine still hurts, but not as much.  I bet I have to keep mine in until after surgery and there's still a chance they will want to poison me some more with some adjuvant chemo.  It is very liberating to get rid of one of the vestiges of cancer.  I can't wait.

  • heartnsoul76
    heartnsoul76 Member Posts: 1,648
    edited December 2012

    Love the high-five picture!  

    It would be terrible to have the munchies and not be able to actually eat anything munchable!  I doubt if too many stoners crave mashed up hard-boiled eggs.... maybe you should try that, Elimar.  Blend a couple of hard-boiled eggs and then add some mayonnaise for fat.  Anything to stay out of the hospital!  I hope you are about to turn the corner on this.

    Yes, my gastro did say they don't like to see anything over 1 cm so I am sooooo grateful I made it in there yesterday!  And it really wasn't bad at all.  Nothing like what I had built up in my head!  The propofol was the weirdest stuff.  One minute I was talking to the tech and the next minute I was talking to him, just in another room.  I don't even remember opening my eyes - I was just there.  Freaky!  My first time with propofol, I guess.  I'm used to people standing around screaming at me, "Wake up!!"

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited December 2012

    Heartnsoul - My same exprience with propofol. Saw syringe of milky stuff; knew what it was. Gone, then next thing I knew there was DH sitting beside me and I was wide awake again. Versed I had trouble waking up from.

  • heartnsoul76
    heartnsoul76 Member Posts: 1,648
    edited December 2012

    luvmygoats - did your husband say what you were doing before you woke up? Not that you were dancing on the table or anything... Wink

    Seriously, I guess your eyes were closed and all...

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited December 2012

    DH said he had just sat down. I opened my eyes and it was wide awake time. They asked me to put my clothes as much as I could without standing up which I did then up to wheelchair. Let me go to RR by myself then rolled me out the door.

  • heartnsoul76
    heartnsoul76 Member Posts: 1,648
    edited December 2012

    Thank you! So now I know my eyes were closed - haha.  That's been bothering me...

    I've always wanted goats.  I live on a lot of wooded acreage (not all mine) that has ivy growing in the trees, so it was always my plan to get goats to keep the ivy in check. But, then the coyotes moved in and ruined everything.  I wanted chickens, too, and a chicken coop.  There still may be some way to outsmart the coyotes, I don't know.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited December 2012

    Eli- are you still getting radiation while you are waiting to heal before starting the chemo again? I have done a lot of research on Emu oil and I have been using it each day. So far, so good. I will keep you posted on how it is working.  After tomorrow I will have 19 to go. I had to be seen on Monday. Doc said I was suffering from exhaustion and doesn't want me to work over 30 hrs. I took today off from work and I really needed just to stay home. I hope you start to feel better soon.

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited December 2012

    Heartnsoul - I have Nigerian dwarf dairy goats about 17 I think. I prefer not to count too close 'cause then the cost of hay begins to bother me. I have very little acreage so feed lots of hay in square bales. Texas is in perpetual drought these days and hay though easy enough to buy at the feed store is pricey. I think I might try milking a doe in the spring. DH will just have to get used to the taste, but it means keeping her feed separate somewhat (a new adventure awaits!). In Texas you can't sell raw milk (or give it away) without an awesome grade A dairy permit which means water/electricity/separate milking room, etc. But personal use is different. I have 2 females probably bred, been to see Mr. Buck. I've had goats since 2001. Love them. Knock on wood no coyote problems. Have 6 foot no climb horse fencing with barbed wire on outside. I too would like chickens but have great horned owls and red tailed hawks. Need to get DH a picture of a chicken tractor, kinda like a portable coop on wheels. I think it would answer that problem but then getting DH to build it.  Goats love ivy but they really do not eat just anything. Will not eat the stinging nettle but loves trees and dead leaves. I understand they like poison ivy as well. Mine are on what was grass, pretty bare.

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2012

    Heart, in my pre-BC days I had goats.  The high five pic brought back memories when an old bobcat decided to have goat for dinner each week.  He was relentless until I showed him who was boss.  He wasn't giving any high fives.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited December 2012

    marlegal rads killed half of my left underarm and I did not do chemo but with the repoistioning of pec muscle for reconstruction it makes shaving difficult.  My laser hair removal tech said she sees this quiet often.

    Joanne and momto7 good luck with your chemo

    heartnsould welcome to the three year club.  Not a great club to be in but better than the alternative.  I had my colonoscopy in Aug and they found several pre-cancer polpys in my colon and a couple of ok polpys in my stomach so I am on the three year plan as well.

    dechi congrats on getting deported.

    Eli I hope your mouth is getting better.  I have always fought fever blisters.  I now take acyclovir daily to try to keep them away.  I still get them anyway but they do not get as bad.  I know that when my dad was on chemo and he got mouth sores they had him on acyclovir as well.

  • Valjean
    Valjean Member Posts: 1,898
    edited December 2012

    When we grow garden tomatoes, I mark my calendar when I eat my first one. I have them for NO more than one month (& usually I only allow myself three weeks) or I will get a cold sore. If they are on the vine too long, they become too acidic for me. I will slice them for the DH, & I resort to store bought. I will not buy/eat tomatoes "on the vine" that you can buy in the store either. When I used to fix orange juice from concentrate from the can, if it was anymore than two days old & not finished yet, I pitched it, otherwise I would get a cold sore if I drank it.

    Once I had a Cottage Inn pizza two days in a row. (Yeah, I know, naughty, naughty!!) Major cold sore from the pizza sauce. Never did that again.

    I do not take vitamin C supplements. My Aunt suggested it one winter - tried it - omg, major cold sore! And, this is hard to believe but happened none-the-less: I used to buy an organic face cream, and for the life of me, I can't remember the name right now, that had orange extract or whatever it was, in it. When the store didn't have the one I always bought, I bought the one that was extra fortified. Good lordie, cold sore time.

    So, I watch what I eat & check labels on products. I have never had a reaction like you did, barbe, not even the first time I had developed a cold sore.

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited December 2012

    Valjean - I have the same issue with acidic fruits!  I can't eat fresh tomatos at all.  I can handle a piece of pizza or two especially if there is lots of cheese, but too much pizza, canker sore time.  Too much cirtrus, more than one orange or a couple of glasses of juice and bang.  Don't touch grape fruit...

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2012

    My DH's cold sores occur in relationship to stress.  I can ALWAYS tell when he is stressing about something either at work or home.  They also always occur in the same spot.  He takes Acyclovir as soon as one shows up.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited December 2012

    Oh, now I can relate.  I think I might be having a failure in terminology.  When you say "cold sore" I think of big, brown, scabby thing on the lips.  But Barbe said hers was in the mouth, and Val is saying get them in mouth after citrus OD...so do you mean those horrible mouth ulcerations that spring up from time to time.  I get those once in a while but always just called them "canker sores."  I don't think of them as the same.  I don't get the ones on lips.  When Val mentioned her tomato crop, I remembered that we grew strawberries and it is so easy to gluttonize those when everything is going ripe.  But yowza, after a couple days it was too much of a good thing and I'd be hurting from all the acid.

    My mouth sure is healing slowly now.  I'm still very bad but I am having some water-y, milky tea right now, somethig I could not do for the past four days.  Dinner last night was 2 oz. of pureed lentil soup with a 6 oz. side of milky mashed potatoes that I could drink down.  Should be able to force down more pureed stuff today, but really must keep it smooth.  Lost a good six lbs., and look just like a wrinkly, cancer-y supermodel.  Last summer, I was riding my bike about five days a week to stay fit and keep the middle-aged belly fat off.  Well, who knew?  To really whittle my waistline, all I needed was a couple weeks of horrendous mouth sores.  Amazingly effective, but I would not recommend it.

  • jocanuck1951
    jocanuck1951 Member Posts: 1,003
    edited December 2012

    Ok I'm laughing loud now thanks to you Eli!!! That's me, not going to worry about my extra pounds now! You sound beautiful! Nothin wrong with wrinkles, I like em, specially the live ones lol!



    So happy to hear you are on the mend....jeez...the things we do to look gorgeous! Xoxo

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2012

    You look the same to me, Eli~   Wink

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited December 2012

    And probably always will!!!!

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited December 2012

    I always called the sores in the mouth canker sores (that's what I get when I eat tomatoes) and the ones outside, those scabby things, cold sores. (I've never had one of those)

  • Valjean
    Valjean Member Posts: 1,898
    edited December 2012

    Yes, Cindyl, I have always called the sores in the mouth Canker Sores & the ones I get, on the lips on the outside, Cold Sores. They get firm & eventually develop a scab which if one is not extremely careful, can be knocked off & will bleed & bleed. And then you develop another scab & start all over. I have had a scab come off just bumping my lip while pulling a shirt on over my head. I keep Herpecin L HL 30 on it as much as possible. It keeps it moist & eventually dries it up. I've had two at one time. Yell I've never had a canker sore.

    A pain in the wa-zoo!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Glad you are feeling better, Eli! FYI you don't taste avocado in the pudding recipe....just smooth chocolate....yum

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited December 2012

    chachamom-just notice your quote.  Is that you or someone you are quoting?  I really like it! Might have to steal but would like to give credit where credit is due.

    What a sad day for our country & the people in Newtown, CT.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Hi Eph3 12. Yeah, I stole it. I read the post from "nancebeth" on the ACS "what's Next" site and stole it from her. I don't know her full name, though, much like this site.



    My prayers go out to those family and friends dealing with the horrible shooting in CT!

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited December 2012

    Eli glad you are feeling better hopefully you will get more food down today

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2012

    My prayers going up as well.  

  • Kd6blk
    Kd6blk Member Posts: 114
    edited December 2012

    The outside sore is a cold sore or actually herpes simplex and is highly contagious. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex 

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited December 2012

    Eli: Glad you're on the mend, but sorry to hear about all the weight loss.  I'd love to donate some pounds to you.  I have plenty to spare, and I'm generous like that...

    I've been away for a long weekend in SFO.  We had great weather and a wonderful time.  I was happy to see Union Square filled with happy shoppers.  It seems that people are spending money this year.  I'm certainly doing my part.

    I hated to learn about today's shooting.  Such a tragedy.  What's wrong with Americans?  This is very rare in other countries, but all too common here.  We should be able to fix this problem...

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited December 2012

    Getting that horrid reaction to my first cold sore (not canker!) is like when a man gets chicken pox as an adult and becomes sterile. Most diseases are exposed to us as children and we build an immunity. My body had never met a cold sore before and it went nuts.

    As for the shooting, yes, of course I am shattered. BUT, as someone living in a country which does NOT have the "right to bear arms" it always looks like a school shooting situation about to happen!!! Don't have a semi-automatic rifle available to anyone!!! What are you guys thinking!! This is 2012, not 1812!!! Not too many countries allow one to have a gun in the home, so that's why the shootings happen to those countries that have guns lying around the house. We use the term "going postal" to mean bringing in a gun and shooting everyone up. We got that from news from the USA. It makes me SO FRIGGING angry that innocents are killed because someone had access to such a weapon. Look in your own backyards for "weapons of mass destruction"!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG my heart just bleeds for the innocents who will always have those pictures in their heads. I refuse to watch the news or read about it and this way I can pretend it didn't even happen!!! Maybe I read it in a book about another world, a sci fi world where weapons in the home are as common as computers......

  • heartnsoul76
    heartnsoul76 Member Posts: 1,648
    edited December 2012

    Eli - glad to hear your mouth sores are getting a little better and it sounds like you are doing alright with nourishment, too.  Your diet reminds me of an old diet where they wired people's jaws shut so they could only eat stuff like you're eating.

    They sell chicken coops at Williams-Sonoma.  Saw them a while ago, and I think an average man should be able to build one of these:  http://www.williams-sonoma.com/search/results.html?activeTab=products&words=chicken+coops&cm_sp=OnsiteSearch-_-GlobalNav-_-Button&type-ahead-viewset=ecom

    Meece, I was planning on showing that coyote who's boss but can't figure out how to get around the law.  Here it's legal to kill them, but you can't shoot them.  The coyote killed my cat and several neighbors' cats.  And I wrote an article about them for a local magazine - even if you rid your area of them, more just move in.  They control their own population based on how much land is available.  We didn't have this problem until about 5 years ago - you can find them in the concrete jungle of Atlanta now.  They are highly adaptable critters.

    Eph - I am just sick about the shooting in CT.  Those poor families and the poor little siblings.  Praying for Connecticut - my step-siblings live there and it's so small, everybody knows everybody else.

  • jocanuck1951
    jocanuck1951 Member Posts: 1,003
    edited December 2012

    These shootings are done by people with a mental illness. Nobody likes to talk about that. Guns are a weapon no different than a sword, bow, knives. It's not the instrument. It's the untreated mentally ill person that pulls the trigger. A car can be a weapon.



    I'm sooooooo heartbroken that this is the last thing the children saw.

  • firework1068
    firework1068 Member Posts: 160
    edited December 2012

    I agree wholeheartedly with you ,JoCanuck. I just read about a Chinese man who killed 8 people (children) with a knife!

    Tonight should be about the community of Newtown, CT, and their need to cope and heal from this tragedy. Tomorrow we should be discussing ways to identify mental illness in our youth.........it's not about the guns, BTW, he didn't use an assault weapon but instead used two handguns. I'm probably preaching to the choir here. There was another post I read somewhere on here about the USA and gun control........just saying.

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