MIDDLE-AGED WOMEN 40-60ish

Eph3_12 · November 2010

stressed is desserts backwards, Zogo! Eat sweets! And I'll fold-one of the main reasons I adopted was to control the sex of my child-what was I thinking???????????Edited to add: the other main reason I adopted was because my inner workings didn't work right. Again, what was I thinking????

Gingerbrew · November 2010

HaHa, I had three sons in 30 months, twins first. Then 7 years later a daughter. Our DD was like being on vacation compared to the first two. Our last son was also easy for me, he nursed and that is so much easier than bottle feeding.

I loved so many things about the kids being home. Some not so much.:)

GInger

3jaysmom · November 2010

somebody tell me where to find the oicture!!(please?) i've been going in and out of thread, and can't find it. want to hear all about the trip, too. love you gals.ELIMAR, thanks, as always, for yet another great header pic!! 3jays

raeinnz · November 2010

3jaysmom - the picture is one page back (page 190) two posts from the bottom of the page.

Kristian · November 2010

Hello All,

Marlegal, great pic with Marisa, thank you so much for your generousity and for representing everyone here. Can't wait to hear about the gala.

Love all the pics and posts, I have to try to check this daily to keep up with everything.

I had a great halloween with my 3 year old, I will try to post a pic if I can, she is a beautiful blond, but she had on a black wig to go with her Snow White costume. I don't know what the weather was like everywhere else, but it was very cold here. That did not stop her from wanting to hit every house for candy, at one point she insisted that we stay out until her bag was full Undecided

I have a medical question for everyone. I had my apmt with my radiation oncologist last week and he wants to do 30 rounds, 5wks of regular, 1 wk of boost, because my margins were not clear and he wants to make sure they "get everything". I previously had a mastectomy, and the area where there were "dirty" margins was in my chest. The tumours were between the pectoral muscle and on my chest wall resting on an artery, the chemo had reduced the tumours to a couple of small lumps, which were removed, the one in question, they think may have been a lymph node. Has anyone had radiation after unclear margins? Also, they said they would be doing the lymph nodes in my neck, has anyone had radiation there? I have been posting on a metaplastic breast cancer discussion as well as this type of cancer spreads more through the blood stream rather than through the lymphatic systerm.

Take Care.

Kristi Laughing

elimar86861 · November 2010

Kristian, I will try and answer part of your question, not including the radiation in the neck region. Hopefully, someone else willpost something on that.

First, I'm not sure what you mean by "dirty" margin? Do you mean the actual excised lump had cancer cells right at the margin? (You could find the information in your final path. report from your surgery.) I am asking because "clean" is a vague term...some docs feel a margin of 2-3mm is needed to be clear, some want 1 cm. I think "wide margin" is used for over 2 cm. I, myself, had one side (out of six) of my lump get termed a "close" margin because is was 5mm. So did your margin actually have cancer in it or was it just "close?" Anyway, quite a few people get re-excision for unclear margins, but not always. Women with DCIS (considered non-invasive) might just get radiation if the margins were not clear. Your cancer is a rare kind and I don't know anything about it. Maybe the doctors feel that radiation would be as effective for "local control" in the breast as doing a re-excision would be, and re-excision might not be a good option if the area in question is so close to an artery. Every woman who gets radiation is basically getting it as a "clean up" procedure to wipe out any cancer cells left behind, even if the margins came back "clean."

If anyone else had a margin with cancer cells right at the transection (cut) please comment on if you had re-excision or just went straight on to radiation.

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Marlegal, way to keep us in suspense...

Raj20 · November 2010

Looking very young and georgeos. Let it remain ever.

Raj20 · November 2010

Looking very young and georgeos.

Raj20 · November 2010

elimar, your picture is original art. Is it your creation or else. Good to see such a rare pictures.Looking forward more good arts.

Raj20 · November 2010

elimor, I have some pictures of my pet dog- ODEN- German spitch, very intelegent. I wish to post his pictures but don,t know how to upload pictures while posting. As my children are not with us, my husband and me talks to him everytime. He understand our feelings. He used to wish our visitors by leaking, smelling but never bite. But his presence in our house is dislike by others. We are so possesive about him. He makes be completely forgotten the cancer impact on me and also the feeling of loneliness has gone.

elimar86861 · November 2010

raj, that is just a picture I found online.

Eph3_12 · November 2010

rajkumari: I can't help you with the picture posting, but I know EXACTLY what you mean about your dog! My child is still in the home with me, but my dog is much more understanding than a teenager!

elimar86861 · November 2010

Interesting, three international women posting today (and you, Eph)...everyone else must be out voting! I have not gone yet. My polling place keeps moving, so when I went to the last place I voted at, it was not there this time. I'll cirlcle around after dinner and look for it.

Lookin good with your new avatar pic raeinnz.

Eph3_12 · November 2010

Elimar-eveyone knows I'm very exotic & international (ha)! Oregon is vote by mail only so I have no polling place, which really sucks. I get to go drop my ballot in a converted mailbox outside the county clerk's office!

Meece · November 2010

I ordered an absentee ballot, but put off getting in back to the mail, so I have to drop it off at the poll tonight. I absolutely hate our polling place, and that is why I go absentee. The people running it are just jerks! One guy follows people around to make sure they are inking in the dots completely. I consider that harrassment.

It has been a very looooong day. My supervisor was being bratty and I have had it up to my ears, but I have to have a job so I just suck it in. My biggest problem is that I will not kiss up to people. They get nothing from me that they don't earn, so they also know I can't be manipulated. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

leisaparis · November 2010

Kristian...I don't have the same kind of cancer as you, but I did have to have the lymph nodes in the neck radiated. If you would like to see pic's I have some posted on the Forum:Surgery-before,during & after, under the Topic: April 2010 mastectomy. I think it's a few pages back from the last page. I had taken pictures of the breast radiation, but you can see the neck radiation spots as well. About the picture thing...sometimes it will let you just cut and paste othertimes you have to use the picture URL. If you click on the little tree at the top of this writing section, it brings up a box for you to put in the URL. Then it should let you add the picture. I say should, cuz it doesn't always let you, so that's why I then try to cut and paste. Hope this helps. Leisa

chrissyb · November 2010

Hi girls, haven't been on this thread for a while but I lurk all the time. Starting to feel old, old, old! I spent a week with my DD1 last week and did some of the driving around of the boys for her. My eldest grandson, 15 yr old Jackson, was invited to watch a play put on by another schools drama class. I dropped him off and told him to call when it was over and I would come and get him. He did this and we organised where he would be waiting. I drove slowly up the road looking for him. I didn't see him at first, just a young couple in a very intimate clinch. Yep, you got it, that was my baby! My baby is no longer my baby he is a young man. his mother and I were informed the following morning that the young lady's name was Jade and they were a couple. Boy! I thought it was hard to accept when my children started bringing home partners, but grandchildren? Now that really is telling me I'm getting old.

Peace, strength, love n hugs. chrissyb

Kristian · November 2010

Hi Elimar,

Thanks for the info. The pathology report is a little vague, it does not use exact numbers but I will type what it does say about the margins "Right breast, nodule over axillary artery/vein and intrapectoral mass, excision: Recurrent metaplastic breast carcinoma post chemotherapy extending very close to several of the margins of excision (see Microscopic Description)"-which reads- "Many of the tumour nodules are rimmed by a lymphocytic infiltrate, some of which might represent extensive involvement of lymph node, but unequivocal evidence of residual nodal structures is not identified. This possibility includes the nodule approximating the axillary artery/vein in specimen #2. The tumour approaches the inked margin in several foci."

Hopefully this means "close to" but not "unclear margins" ??

Sorry about the medical jargon. I am trying to make sense of it. I spoke to my surgical oncologist over the phone about this report and then I received it by mail. I would have asked him more questions if I had read it before talking to him.

Leisa, thank you for the reference to the pics, I will check them out.

Have a good night everyone

Kristi Wink

3jaysmom · November 2010

again, thanks, marlegal, for doing that. took some time to find the picture. will wait till you configure the story. its' also so nice to have a pic of you, to put a face to the name. am still working to get my pics on. sv gave me some instructions, will attempt again 2morrow. nice pictures, all of you...wont watch excorcist. say the original subliminal cut before it was banned in boston. have had nightmares for years. saw scenes i thoght id imagined, then talked to someone who saw uncut version in philly.. that's when i knew i'd be allright..lol 3jays

elimar86861 · November 2010

Like most of us on this thread, I also read and post on a few others. From that, I have just learned that Meece's son, the one overseas, has had a stroke--thought to be mild, and he is hospitalized. She has been trying to get complete information and find a way to get over and be with him.

Middies, let's send some thoughts and prayers to our sister-friend Meece.

Meece, so sorry to learn this frightening situation has arisen. I am hopeful that your son, a healthy young man, will make a full recovery from this.

marlegal · November 2010

Meece, you and your son will top my list until I know he's safe and you are safe as well.

Eli, do you know where he is stationed?

3jays, thanks! I probably won't have time to sit and write my thoughts till the weekend, but I will share it here once I do, promise

elimar86861 · November 2010

It is the son in Japan; her middle boy. She has talked to him. With a stroke, it often takes a little time to pinpoint what went wrong and where, and then some more time to assess what areas have been affected. I don't think she has any of that information yet.