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  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2013

    Brazos, read your resume & you'e more than qualified.  Can you start right away?  I have 2 sons between voting age and drinking age myself, one dog, no Mustang; and you mentioned the word work too much in your first paragraph!

    I can't comment on the LE much, but some others have the same issue and hopefully they will post for you.  I had lumpectomy and two nodes out.  The sentinel node area stayed sore and tight longer than the tumor area.  I stretched like crazy and it is pretty good now (tho' still sore at times.)  Then, after a year I discovered a reason it stayed sore...I have a few titanium clips in there.  I think they got irritated every time I did my eXtreme stretching.

    I have a question and I hope I can ask this in a sensible way:  Will your LE resolve over time?  What I mean is your LE is from the surgical site, and the whole lymphatic field was disturbed and rearranged, but you did not lose any nodes, so over time will your body heal and begin to drain better?   I know when a woman loses a whole armpit's worth of nodes, the LE is a present danger for the rest of her life.  Even tho' this doesn't pertain to me, I just have the kind of enquiring mind that wants to know.

    Lastly, I like the quote in your tagline.    Dragonfly Pictures, Images and Photos

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2013

    MAKING STRIDES WALK report: 

    Getting up at 6:30 on a Saturday is not my standard operating procedure, but I got to the check-in on time an hour later.  I had no business having a Krispy Kreme doughnut, since I was not going to be walking it off.  Got to my route station about 8:15.  My partner (son #2, who has an even harder time getting up at 6:30 on a Saturday went into immediate "stand-by" mode, meaning I listened to his gentle snoring for 45 min.)   At 9:00 we took up a position to steer the walkers into a 90o turn at our corner.  Around 9:20 I noticed some joggers a block away GOING STRAIGHT.  Then a couple more, then a group of three, then a few more.  I decide to walk down to that corner where other "route marshalls" were stationed, and this exchange followed:

    ME:  Were those runners doing the Making Strides event?

    CHORUS OF THREE YOUNG LADIES:  Yeah.

    ME:  Well, they should be making a turn here and heading down to my corner.

    CHORUS:  We didn't know.  No one told us!

    ME:  Didn't you get a map of the route?

    CHORUS:  No, we never got one.  They were all just running straight past us.

    ME:  O.K., they all need to turn and YOU need to TURN THEM!

    Wow!  I guess you could say I really earned my doughnut.  After that, things went great.  Everyone was directed the right way and we had the vigorous early birds, the huge mid-herd, and the stragglers, maybe something like 600-800 or more, all rounding our corner safely and properly. I should mention that part of the task was to "cheer."  I should also mention that, "Good job...you've made it half way!  Please don't collapse, we don't have shuttle service." is about as cheery as I get.  I bet that first dozen or so of runners must be well over the state line by now.

    Correction: Don't rely on me for future head counts...the news said over 4,000 were in that walk, which netted over $100K.

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited October 2010

    elimar good job!

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited October 2010

    Brazo- Well it's official, if Elimar say you passed the entrance exam, then you're good to go. No BMX here but one year plus outta of chemo and kicking some serious hiney. (I work with small children)  We need to do a  blood test for powder cheese though. It's painless and will no in no means make or break your enrollment here, but you may not be able to run for public office. 

    Okay ladies, we added a new doggy to our family. She's a rescue, as all my pets are, and a Corgi Chihuahua mix. Officially a Chicorgi. She belongs to my 19 year old DD. I'll post some pics soon.

    My back/spine is driving me nuts today. Getting epidural 2 on Monday, so I just gotta hang tough a little longer. Family is out picking out a pumpkin right now. I'm taking advantage off some ice time.

    Eph-glad to hear you are doing so good.  You are always a star in my book.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited October 2010

    Thanks Paulding-you shine for me too. I hope that epidural does the trick.  My sister is finishing up prolotherapy on her SI joint & is doing much better.

     Elimar, your narration of your field marshalling experience this AM had me in stitches.  You & Kleenex need to see about writing for Tina Fey or someone like that.

    Brazo, welcome! 

    Football game last night & we won, which was a real boost for the kids-there hadn't been a win on homecoming weekend for a couple/3 years prior!  

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited October 2010
    I never even heard of prolotherapy, but oooooh, now I want it.  I Googled it.  It sounds so good for osteoarthritis (and my SI joints have complained for some years.)  BUT, will insurance cover it, that is the question?
  • marlegal
    marlegal Member Posts: 2,264
    edited October 2010

    eph, hope the healing continues for you hon

    eli, that was hysterical!!  i can see me doing the exact same thing .. we go somewhere intending to be passive, just participate, but somehow we wind up in the thick of things.  too funny.

    paulding, i had a cortisone injection in my knee wednesday - talk about better living through pharmaceuticals!!!  i hope your epi works wonders for you dear

    brazo, i hope your LE sleeve/gauntlet are preventative while you recover from surgery.  i developed LE two years post surgery and it's not a whole lot of fun. i know it can be temporary after surgery though, so that's my hope for you.  as for when you'll be able to do all the things you want to do, take it slowwwww ... this your your body's time to heal, and like it or not, you need to bring it down a notch for a while. keep in the back of your mind that this isn't a sprint to the finish, it's a marathon that you want to savor for a long, long time.  as to your question about people living past surgery, i'm more than 5 yrs out and i've done more living in the last 5 yrs than i had in the prior 10.  i've travelled more, met amazing people - lots from the chat rooms on bco - and i think i'm overall healthier than i was before my diagnosis.  go figure!!!   i wishyou all that and more, but again, don't go rushing and looking for healing too soon - smell the flowers, call friends on the phone, eat that piece of cake now and then ... easy does it.  welcome to our room :)

  • marlegal
    marlegal Member Posts: 2,264
    edited October 2010

    P.S.  Eli - that picture definitely remidns me of Faithie too - it really looks like something she would wear!

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited October 2010

    brazo--after a major surgery like a mastectomy (certainly after a bilateral) it takes the body 6 months to a year to fully recover.  You will feel much better after 3 months, but give yourself a bit of a break for at least 6.  I'm 4 months out from bilateral DIEP reconstruction, still have tightness on the side of the second mast/immediate recon, less on the side with the prior mast/delayed recon and still get tired more easily than I did before surgery, but it's gotten much better.  With the LE and cording it may take longer to get past the tighness and pulling.  A big thing to remember is that taking the time your body needs to heal now you will actually get back to full strength more quickly than if you try to push thing too much. 

  • brazos58
    brazos58 Member Posts: 261
    edited February 2011

    Thank YOU ALL for the Welcome Tore, Carol2, Elimar, eph3  and marlegal....

    Elimar, sure I can start NOW..... the LE issue is that I am at risk from Axillary Web Syndrome...Cording...I have no clues other than I have to watch it and am at risk for LE b/c I have that... And I can not fly back to Jamaica, where I just had the best freaking time of my life in Jan/10 ... w/o a Sleeve/Gauntlet!  <spit!>. The dragon fly thang.....has a story.  As far as the word WORK....I did say that didn't EYE? Its been a year of having our downstairs foundation going to hell, and having the whole room gutted. And in Janurary the whole front of our house went from a winter of 7 ft of snow......Ice daming... 7 new windows. And then april came...................................and I stopped.

    SIGH. I left my hammer and crowbar out for a long time so I would not forget that I was strong enuff to gut rooms.. And I liked it too. I finally put them away. B/c I am not bouncing back.... for awhile.... Maybee next summer! I am trying hard to be the WATER. A half of year has come and gone. I am pampering my self . I could design my own couch's. I pray, read, dont get my pissy on near as much. But I am really tired of rubbing my chest! I don't think fondling my incisions and massaging my chest counts as pamperage.

    PauldingM....LOLOL the re: blood test, tell me more.

    marlegal, thank you for that insight into the marathon....and easy does it. Sometimes I think KNOW that getting sick has hidden gifts... and for me a big one has been taking care of me, instead of always taking care of everyone else. Its my turn, my time.

    Thanks to all of you.

    Off to bed, too read and hang with the cats.

    Nite room zzzzzz

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited October 2010

    Hi....hope everyone is having a good weekend.

    The good..today a breast cancer walk went right by my house! I cheered for the walkers from my window. It was kind of touching and inspiring.

    Then I actually went to a play about a young woman with breast cancer ,her struggles in her marriage, and her bond with her bc sisters. It's called "The New Normal"

    On the down side I had some really nasty office politics directed at me at my new job. So I have been really sad. People say I'm snobby.

    Sigh :(

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited October 2010

    Office politics is the pits, isn't it?  I try to stay out of that stuff, but it's not always (or even often) possible.  Got to play the game, sometimes, but it does make for sadness and anger.  If all that energy could be focused on solving problems instead of manuevering the world would have no problems at all. 

    The New Normal sounds like a good play,  I still cannot sit down and watch a TV show or play about bc.  It get's too personal and too intense, and I keep wanting to jump up and yeall out "it's not like that at all!" or "Why don't you talk about the complications?"  All those shows, to me, seem to trivialize the difficulties and problems and focus on the Superwoman, heroic battler-of-cancer-now-a-get-your-yearly-mammogram-crusader role that society expects us to adopt.  I, personally, can NOT do that. It's nobody else's business what I've been through or how I coped (or failed to cope) with the challenges.  It's MY choice who, when, and how much to tell.  I shouldn't have to be "on stage" all the time because something I couldn't control happened to me. 

    Ah, I'm sorry for going off on a rant.  Not sure how I got off on that subject this morning.  It's a beautiful morning and I think it's time to take the dog (and myself) off for a walk. 

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited October 2010

    Cookie, I have been in your office shoes before.  I am really a quiet to the point person, and if I am supposed to work and produce sertain things, that's what I do.  But, when the other office workers were ALL smokers and went outside my office window for breaks (5-7 a day)and I stayed in to work, I was told I was a snob and not a team person.  I also didn't go out with "The girls" headed by the office manager when they all got drunk.  I feared for my job, and wanted to be a good worker, but that isn't what the politics of that office wanted.  (((((((((((Cookiegal))))))))))))

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited October 2010

    The office has it so wrong, that's it borderlines on funny. Cookiegal a snobLaughing that's funny, but I feel sorry for you having to deal with that.

    So, yesterday I went to Starbucks for this little celebration of my GF finishing her BC therapy. It was her, her daughter, my two DDs and myself. We were enjoying coffee and pink donutsTongue out. We wore pink and I decorated the table with pink flowers, stickers ect....  When this lady stopped me and asked me "when does the walk start next week?" I was taken aback. Just because I'm a survivor am I now the official timekeeper too? am I suppose to support EVERY walk, bake sale, pink a thon? Actually, the other day a sweet girl at the grocery store asked me if I would like to donate a dollar for BC. First I told her I didn't support BC but did support research and awareness of the disease,with a smile. She got it. Then I told her I had given enough. Now remember I'm pretty much high as a kite 24/7 on Vicadin for my back. Thank goodness my DDs were with me and explained that I was attempting to be funny and that I was a Survivor. At that point I moved my shirt and exposed my port scar and said "Blood comes out, Chemo. comes in." Poor girl. I was such an A$$ and told her I was sorry but that I had kinda had enough. I gave a dollar, came home a took a nap. When I woke up I put on my pink ribbon, pink earrings, pink bracelet and ate some Smores with my family.

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited October 2010

    ((((((Hugs))))))) Paulding.

    Sometime I get a desire to ask the clerk if giving part of my breast wasn't enough, but I hold back.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited October 2010

    Real Women...Real Stories.  That's what you get here.  Luv ya, P-Mom!  I would never wish that store clerk to encounter B/C herself, but if it ever does come to that, she will think back to you in that store and a light bulb will come on.  (Especially since you no doubt scarred her for life by revealing that port scar. Oh-oh-oh!)  Way to turn it around in the "aftermath," just please tell me you used those little pink marshmallows for your S'mores!

  • OG56
    OG56 Member Posts: 897
    edited October 2010

    Eli- I had to laugh at getting your group walking in the right direction, last year I couldn't even find half of my group!

    Yesterday a clerk asked me if I wanted to donate to BC, and I said "oh believe me I already have".

    Eph- glad to hear that arm is working well, they told me I wouldn't get back mine either and it is  100 %...they just didn't know who we were when they said that!

    Cookie, I know you from our get togethers and you are very warm and friendly not a Snob!!! WTF

    Have a good week I am leaving to drive up-state for work today, I hate working, ((sigh))

  • brazos58
    brazos58 Member Posts: 261
    edited February 2011

    Thanks for the advice NativeMainer....its helping my perspective. DH and eye are comming to realize it is NOT Gallbladder sx I am not bouncing back from... We talked about how do we get this Queen a cleaning lady at least 1x/ month.

    This is my First Pink October. I never liked Pink....Its everywhere... reminding me... and I have just started to land from my surgery.

    Off to re-invent myself again!

    Peace to you all.

  • Claire82
    Claire82 Member Posts: 684
    edited October 2010

    Just for your info - anyone undergoing chemo

    there is a site www.cleaningforareason.com

    It's nationwide - if you apply, they will come and clean your house once a month

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited October 2010

    Well...thanks for all the cyber hugs. I spent most of this beautiful weekend crying. Sincere compliments that I gave people were twisted around.

    Anyhow it's a beautiful night, it's a new week, and all I can do is try my best every day, make myself and my husband proud, and create something that our customers enjoy.

    The rest is in God's hands.

    It's too bad after 2 months, I really liked this job and actually liked everyong I worked with.

    Sigh. 

    It's a job, not life, not cancer.

    Back to the show, obviously one play can never cover everyone's expericence. But there was some of it that was so true it took my breath away. Especially about being younger and having this kill your sex life, the frustrations of insurance, and that fact that it changes you in ways that can make people uncomfortable. I will post the blog it's based on next time.

    I am so sad I don't even want to eat. And let me tell you the last time that happened was 1996!

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2013

    Cookie,  Is there a way to un-twist things?  Don't despair, and I hope all the goodness of the job can be recaptured.

    Claire82, thanks for posting about the cleaning help.  It's not in every city, but it was available in a good number of them.

    Too bad it is not offered for the simply surgery weary, radiation fatigued women.  Dang, those chemo gals get all the perks, don't they?  

  • gingersfavorite1
    gingersfavorite1 Member Posts: 273
    edited October 2010

    their website phrases it for  "women receiving cancer treatment"    doesn't specify what type of treatment.     

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited October 2010

    You are right, gingersfave, it doesn't just say for chemo patients, does it?  It really could be a help to women with frozen shoulder issues, or bad cases of LE, if they allow that as well.

    If someone here does use the CleaningForAReason service, let us all know how it works out.

  • brazos58
    brazos58 Member Posts: 261
    edited February 2011

    Thanks for the link Claire. I am a 4 month out BMX and I can NOT take care of my 14 room house. Plus its gone to hell over the past 6 months.... I can putz with the lite stuff. But no heavy cleaning. And my men are FLAWED in the way men are and they don't think anything is wrong at all.....

    Do you think I would qualify if I said that? Anyone used them?

    Elimar, i esp did not say the word, WORK.... just for you.

    Just put me in a 3 bedroom condo.

    Off to read with the cats.

    Nite room zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Claire82
    Claire82 Member Posts: 684
    edited October 2010

    I used them while i was on chemo

    The woman who I hired to clean during surgery, reconstruction and chemo actually told me about the site. Her company is one who volunteers. There is a bit of paperwork and you need a note from the doctor saying that you are a cancer patient, but it was nice to have my house cleaned. They clean once a month for four months. I have kept her on as I still can't do heavy housecleaning. She comes once a month. Her mom has cancer also, but lives in another state. It was wonderful and she did/does a wonderful job.

  • faithandfifty
    faithandfifty Member Posts: 10,007
    edited October 2010

    I was sooooooooooooooooooo far behind, middies!

    I'm kinda/sorta all caught up, but now I can't remember all the bits to comment upon.

    Of course, I am very fond of my twinzie-cousin, fashion conscious thread-topper. She's got seriously awesome style. Some ideas for me to tweak.

    Welcome to all newbies.

    Which reminds me, Brazos, the LE issues and getting back to the "real" you.......... so many issues broiling in there. It would require a book, or Cookie's play.

    Which reminds me to hug ((((Cookie)))) you've been thru such a lot, it would sure be swell if your new setting loved you as much as we do. My guess is that they are jealous of the big city girl with the great ideas & talent.

    Anyhow, Brazos, I had bilat mid Jan of this year...... all went as per the 'book' of expectations until I developed an infection/cellulitis which then resulted in a hemotoma/seroma. I'm been in PT much of this year: range of motion, cording, LE, the whole enchilada.

    I, too, fall between the cracks of typical/expectations........ which has them all mystified. I have been in a sleeve/gauntlet since the end of April. Lots of strange adjstments: mentally, physically yada yada.

    Come over to the LE section of the board...... there are a couple of women who are amazingly insightful/educated/knowledgable.

    I've just this evening finished the fifth of my five 'events' of the last week. WHOOOHOOOOOOO!

    Now I have a couple of days to lolly-gag before we head back to OH for a little bit.

    Best to all the middies.

    And as others have mentioned Elimar, you do indeed make a WONDERFUL den mother & we are fortunate to have you at the helm.

    Good to get caught up!

    Joni, I'm working very hard not to be 'green' over your gifted & talented status of PT. I'm at the other end of the spectrum I'm afraid. So glad to know that someone excels. Couldn't be a nicer person to lead the PT pack.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited October 2010

    Faithie-I can't claim credit; I'm convinced it's the power of prayer & kind thoughts! But I am glad that I am in the position I'm in!

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited October 2010
  • leisaparis
    leisaparis Member Posts: 587
    edited August 2013

    I thought the cleaning for a reason was for any cancer patient, not just chemo patients. I may have misunderstood, but I think it's for any cancer patient no matter what kind you have.

    Sorry, just realized I was not on the last page.

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited October 2010

    I contacted cleaning fora  reason a few months ago and they asked me to have a letter faxed to them from my doctors office which I did about 3 weeks ago but have not heard anything back yet.

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