A checklist on how[ to promote alternative medicines

JeninMichigan

I know one thing,.... I am not going to rely solely on the information from my doctor alone to make my decisions.    I will check all my options and get second opinions as I see fit.  Nor will I rely on information given to me  by the Vitamin Shoppe clerk who has just the herb to cure my cancer or fix my runny nose.    We come to this thread to share what we have learned and ask freely questions of what we might have heard.    Any forum on any topic you can get misinformation, this is no different.  Obviously you have to make your own decisions.    This thread is for discussion of natural practices.  You always show up and have nothing to offer except derogatory remarks.  You change your name but you are always the same.    If you don't agree and don't see the value in natural remedies, then just go away.  You have nothing valuable to offer and none of these ladies need the stress and drama.     It is a shame because when you are not around there is a wonderful sharing of information with alot of good documentation behind it.   There are alot of very knowledgeable members here who have been doing this along time.   It should be wonderful we can share in this wealth of info.   No one needs the disclaimer that this has not been approved by the FDA and does not claim to cure disease in order to get the benefits we are all after.

 Jennifer

Teild

I don't understand why some of you have gotten so upset.  Isn't this forum supposed to be about expression of opinions?  All I have done is post an opposing point of view.  And I surely have nothing against alternative medicines.  Perhaps some of them are miracle cures.  I don't know.  But I do know there are scammers out there trying to sell a bill of goods so they can profit at the expense of their victims.  Some of these scammers may be conventional medical practitioners, some undoubtedly are alternative medicine practitioners.  And yes Fla Lady.  Surgery DOES cure some early stage cancers.  Medical Science may not yet know who is cured and who is not, but no doubt if the cancer has not escaped through the barn door and is removed, that person is cured.  So you cannot force people to have surgery if they do not want to.  But shame on anybody who tries to convince a person to avoid surgery and to instead use alternative medicines that most probably will do nothing to help them. 

idaho

No one on this thread has encouraged anyone to skip surgery and use just alternative meds.  I think we have a meeting of the minds here- can we agree that there are Doctors that are scammers, AND alternative practitioners that are scammers also?  I don't think any one will disagree with that.  We all need to do all the research we can ourselves and keep talking!  Lets not just lump all Dr.'s together and all alternative prac' s together, there are good and bad in each.  Tami

CrystalLocket

While waiting for my third chemo today a lady told her story.  She is from a small town and the doctor there told her that he would have to remove a section of her colon, kidney along with her breast.  She thought "this will change my life drastically"  She looked young too.  She said she then brought her records to this hospital and the doctor put her on chemo to shrink the cancer and now she will not have to do the radical surgery.  I don't anymore facts as I was called into the office.  I do know that my niece had colon cancer and lesions in her lung and liver.  Her doctor put her on chemo for that and now she has only one small lesion in her lung that she goes in for now.  Chemo recipes are different for different cancers.  It is scarry and everyone has to make that decision for themselves. A friend I made through a family member had a golf ball mass taken along with a mastectomy and will not do chemo.  She prefers prayer and diet.  I think it depends on the doctor, hospital and finding it right away.  I had a little East Indian radiologist that I will forever be thankful for who found mine.  It was hard to see and could have been missed. 

Teild

Medicine is very much an art as opposed to a science.  Different doctors have different opinions.  I think the best you can do is go to those physicians who have the most experience treating your disease.  However, alternative medical practitioners are all giving THEIR opinions based on their knowledge or experience of what is good or not good, and most of that experience is of course limited to their patients and results.  That is a far cry from opinions that are based on rigourous studies of given treatments to a large number of women.  When treating cancer who knows for sure what will work or what will not.  But its a smarter gamble to go with treatments that have worked before on a large number of people.

FloridaLady

larger number  of women...average trial size 90 to 120 patients. Sorry don't see the difference.

carol1949

Ok, time for my 2 cents!  LOL

It is a wonderful world we have that we do have the freedom to choose.  Teild, I have a close friend who is an 11 year cancer survivor who did it holistically.  No chemo or rads.  11 years speaks to my heart.  

Also, my radiologist in a major city told me that he has indeed seen evidence of very good results in alternative therapies, when the radiation services were not accomplishing what he had hoped.

Remember, our ancestors used healing oils, etc.  It worked in many cases then... why not now?  We do appreciate modern medicine and science, but it is nice to have some alternatives and options when our body, mind, spirit connection is feeling at "dis" ease.

If anyone wants only to use traditional therapy... God Bless them....I wish them the best also!  I am doing complimentary therapies with the "blessing and encouragement" of my medical physicians!  I think more and more are becoming open minded regarding the complimentary and alternative therapies, as well as alternative testing options.  Mammogram missed my cancer!  

fairy49

Mammogram missed mine too, so did an ultra sound..........had been going every 6 months for the past 5 years, if it weren't for a tech in the ultra sound room at my last visit, who had the balls to say something didn't look right who knows where I would be.

WLL

Hello all, I would like to know if anyone is taking alternative meds and what kinds that will help with chemo therapy?

Merilee

Teild

We all get that alternative methods are not for you. And that is fine, we support you in your treatment whatever you choose for yourself.

 Now ladies let's turn this forum back to what its intended purpose and talk about what  is working for those of us who are interested learning more about this topic. It is my understanding that the US is behind other countries in use of alternatives. Anyone been to Europe to check out what they are doing there?

 

Susers

FlaLady!!

LOVE LOVE LOVE what you had to say in your comeback! You go girl!!

We are the shepards, not the sheep in the herd just following.

vivre

I just met an MD who has totally switched to alternative medicine. She told me something shocking. She said cancer can be cured! She said there are so many different ways, but the FDA, the drug companies, and politics keep hindering the studies. She was telling me about the healing powere of castor oil. She said if you saturate a cloth with castor oil, put in on you body, whereever you have cancer or ailments, then put a heating pad over it, it will draw out the toxins. She said it will look really bad at first, but eventually, the toxins will break up. She swears she has seen it work. My husband has outbreaks of gout, so I am going to try it with him next time.

hrf

I believe that it is up to us to read, and to researach and to determine what is best for us. I check out a naturopathic doctor who have me information which contradicted what my onc told me. However, I had the option of making the choice. When I did ask the naturopath for research studies to prove the claims, she said they didn't have any. However, I have to say that what I learn on these message boards is the most valuable information I get. The dialogue is rich, disagreement is healthy and we should listen to each other. We don't have to agree. But we have to be the best advocate for our own health.