The New Improved More Positive Obama Presidency Thread

jader

daisy,

i think that if a reputable person like Michelle Malkin is reporting it, then it's fine.  She'd be under fire if she was lying. Actually, I read somewhere that it was the people who had the microphones that were screened, or their questions were, not the town hall meeting. I think they got a hand full in Elkhart that they didn't expect. 

Was Satoro the name of a step father???  Where did that name come from?

Should there be a different thread maybe to have open questions on democrats? I can see that this one is wanting to be very private and only positive about obama and it's ok to be negative about republican? 

Daisy maybe we can start a different one if you are a democrat. I am a democrat but I get questions and also feel negative so we can start a new one if u want.Well, I don't feel negative, I feel scared and upset. I am afraid my family members will lose jobs and not real happy about health things like my grandmother said .....she worked hard all her life and this is whats happening to her? She voted for Obama too but now we are all scared because she is in her 70's and average life span is not more than 10 years for her. 

Ok, so I am not negative but questioning and scared. I guess I don't belong here either.

Anonymous

Unique - lol, you pretty much nailed it on the msm channel descriptions. i flip around a lot but i love chris, keith and rachel. so there you go:)

i just find they give me the pieces of stories i want to research more. like tonight about the new american embassy in iraq, i think that was on rachel's show.

i don't think anybody refers to President Obama as barry, really...if they do they should know better and will stop in the not to distant future or embarass themselves. we are very lucky to have the leadership needed to take us out of the ditch. imho  

anyway, i keep meaning to join up with you on the wii board, but i haven't done that, i am all about my wii fit. i love it...mostly the yoga, but i test daily so i do it all, well not all but a lot. i love the tennis. i used to play before my bilat. i hope my wii gives me the strength and confidence to get back in the tennis game. i need to join you on that thread!

speaking of fox, it seems yesterday they got a e-mail from the gop and broadcast it as their talking points?, they apologized for it today...whatever...i watch them all.

President Obama is off to a good start, I can't imagine a president in my lifetime doing any better with the Mess he inherited.

so lucky we are.....

NoH8

Hey obama supporters. I'm starting a new thread for us, hopefully free from anti obama distortions.

traceyz

Archi,

I second that!! Change does feel good doesn't it. So does this......WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO President Obama is in the house!!!

Tracey

AnnNYC

44th president -- born Barack Hussein Obama II.  Informally used the last name of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro (no, not "Satoro") from age 6 to age 10 while living in Indonesia.  Then, when his mother divorced stepfather and returned with her children to Hawaii, he resumed use of his birth name.  Four years out of 48 is not "most of his life."

 42^nd president -- born William Jefferson Blythe, 3rd.  Took stepfather's surname, "Clinton," at the age of 14. 

38^th president -- born Leslie Lynch King, Jr.  Became known by his stepfather's first and last name, i.e., "Gerald R. Ford, Jr." at the age of 2.  Official legal adoption and name change occurred 20 years later, in 1935, when he was 22.  

Why all the paranoia and hate for Barack Obama?

Anonymous

daisy,

please share your "proof", tia

"it has been proven they were Plants and their questions were all submitted and approved before Barry spoke"

.................................

second request...can you back up your post with supporting facts or is it just your opinion that there is "proof"

tia....

AnnNYC

Daisy, 

"Barry" was a nickname.  Barack Obama resumed use of his formal first name in college.  Lots of people do that for professional reasons.  Plus, he used the last name "Obama" all his life except for 4 years in Indonesia.  He may have been called "Barry Obama" in high school -- but it was Obama, not Soetoro.

Forgive me if I misinterpreted your comments.  You seemed to be implying there was something disturbing about Barack Obama having had a nickname as a child, and using the name of his stepfather for 4 years. It seemed that you had a problem with it, which I thought was odd since so many other presidents came from blended families, and/or used both nicknames and formal first names: Bill/William, Jimmy/James, Ronnie/Ronald, Dick/Richard, Jack/John, Ike/Dwight, Jerry/Gerald, etc.

Abe/Abraham, Teddy/Theodore, Andy/Andrew, etc.

unique

Hi, Ann ~

It's disturbing to me because he doesn't use "Barry" at present. I don't think. If he does, I stand corrected. It's not whether or not he had a nickname, it's does he use it now. I think it highlights some of his personal meanderings and is not intended as complimentary. In other words, it's intended to indicate he's a flake.

I think it's more respectful to go by what a person uses presently as his name, and not to refer to him as any other he's not using.

For example, say you decided to start using your middle name, it would be disrespectful for others to keep using your first name. I mean, after the understandable misses in the beginning, if people insisted on using the other name after you'd indicated you preferred another.

What does everybody think?

And about that "Democrat Party" thing. Is anyone else bugged by that?

unique

Hiyas ~

It looks to me like we need the GOP thread, this Obama thread, and maybe a thread for debate? There's a real difference between asking a question as a Democrat or leaning that way and asking a question as a Republican from the GOP list with ammo from the GOP, trying to make a point.

I'm just thinking those who want to debate - and debate is great! it's just some of us are too tired to do it any more. We just want to hide out here as some Republicans prolly want to hide out on the GOP list.

About the fussing - on this list many of us do really dislike W with a passion and need to vent. I'm sure the GOP folks have a lot of venting to do over on their list, I remember what it was like when Bush got in the first and second time, that second time it was like the end of the world for me and I thought the America I thought I knew and loved had died, etc. I have Republican friends who are just as worried now and I understand that.

So I would say we need three lists, and let's keep the trolling and debate to the Debate list.

Let's keep it friendly, comforting and nice in our party lists.

What do you all think?

jader

Madalyn, I just want 2 clarify, I didn't create a thread for debate. It's for us Centrists and Independents who are not left leaning like some of you here. It's a thread where we can ask questions or voice disallusionment (is that the right word) without upsetting the apple cart.  Please don't send over debaters or lefties.  Thanks!

 And Unique, I agree about Barry, it doesn't bother me, it was his name, and just think about how everyone calls Bush -- Bushie, Bush-Lite, Bogus POTUS, Chimp, Dim Son, Dubya, Furious George, Smirk, Toxic Texan and W ... to name a few .... I think Barry can take it.

AnnNYC

Hi, Unique, I agree that I certainly think "Barry" is being used now by people who are trying to disparage Barack Obama, and I also agree that he can handle it.

(I also agree with you that saying "Democrat Party" rather than "Democratic Party" is obnoxious and intended to annoy and disparage.)

But the whole reason I responded to Daisy was that I thought she was imputing something really sinister to Barack Obama (by asking "did you know he was known as Barry Satoro [sic] longer than he was known as Barack Obama?") and I just don't think there's anything sinister there!!!

NoH8

The reason the postive obama thread was started was because every other political thread seemed to be negative  towards Obama at the very least and we wanted a place to discuss our political views, whether they be despising GWB and company and pressuring our senators and congress people to investigate and if necessary prosecute war crimes, sharing our support for our candidate and now president or discussing our like minded thoughts. Some of the other threads were at best negative and sometimes even bordered on racial or religious intolerance by a few people. By religious intolerance I am talking about a few people who (falsely) berated Obama as being muslim, said as an insult which is defamatory toward muslims, comments that people wouldn't vote for someone with Hussein as a middle name etc., and racially insensitive postings of cartoons that were perpetuating a pre civil rights stereotype.

My suggestion is that anytime someone comes on here to spew personal insults or to talk about negative Obama things, we simply start a new positive thread. If they want to make a debate thread, they should do so and those who want to debate should go at it. If they want to complain about Obama and/or his policies, they have a republican thread to do so. If we answer the negativity, then we encourage more of it. We can always report post that break the rules of the boards without giving those who write the threads the acknowledgement.  It's just like kids who have a temper tantrum, when they don't have an audience, they stop. Chastising them or putting them in a time out still gives them attention and some kids don't care what kind of attention they get, positive or negative. Toddlers  don't have the brain development to conceptualize feelings or frustration or the life experience to express those in more appropriate ways. I think the same concept does apply with unwanted negativity whether it be from adults or kids.

HopingforaCure

AnnNYC--I find your posts a breath of fresh air--calm, rational and factual (what a concept ; )

Maybe this article from the Associated Press will clear some info up.  Note the part I "bolded" in particular:

Fla. homeless woman gets help after Obama question

By KELLI KENNEDY - 3 hours ago

FORT MYERS, Fla. (AP) - Henrietta Hughes slept only a few hours that first night, her pickup truck's seat barely reclining. For the next seven months, she and her son camped night after night in obscure parking lots alongside the same nameless faces.

They were just two more jobless people in an economy full of them until an encounter with President Barack Obama at a town hall meeting this week transformed them overnight into a national symbol of homelessness.

Obama kissed Henrietta Hughes' cheek Tuesday and promised to help the 61-year-old and her son, who have fallen on hard times like so many others in this southwest Florida city. A few years ago, the area boomed with new homes and businesses. Now the foreclosure rates are among the nation's highest and the unemployment rate has nearly tripled.

After the meeting, the wife of a local state representative offered to let the Hugheses live free in one of their homes. A police officer paid for three nights at a nearby hotel. There was free furniture, a job interview for Hughes' son, Corey, and a visit from the head of the local housing authority.

But even with that meeting, and a nod from the president, the Hugheses are still on a roughly 60-day wait list for a long-term spot in public housing. The waiting list for Section 8, a voucher program that allows families to choose their residences, is more than 2,000 people long and has been closed to new applicants.

Meanwhile, an $80 million public housing project nearby that would provide 380 family units is stalled and in desperate need of investors, though a $789 billion stimulus bill now awaiting a final vote from Congress could help.

"There's a million Mrs. Hughes across the country and the president knows that," said Marcus Goodson, the Fort Myers housing authority's executive director.

Henrietta and Corey, 37, left Rochester, N.Y., early last year with the promise of jobs and warm weather in Florida. Both had college associate's degrees, computer skills and experience in fast food and housekeeping. They seemed like a good fit for the state's tourism industry.

They rented a two-bedroom apartment near Tampa, looking every day for jobs, knowing the money they borrowed to move was quickly running out.

"Are we going to survive the next day, the next week?" Corey worried daily.

When the money ran dry, they moved into their silver Nissan truck with no back seat, resuming their search for jobs and shelter. They eventually headed south to Fort Myers.

His mother prayed often, sometimes handing out their last dollar to another homeless person. But the hopelessness was starting to wear on her. She planned to write the new president a letter.

When the Hugheses learned Obama was coming to Fort Myers, they slept outside in line for tickets. Henrietta Hughes prayed all night that she would have the chance to speak with the president. She knew he would understand.

"I've been praying for you," she told Obama when he called on her.

"I appreciate prayer," he smiled.

"The housing authority has two years waiting list and we need something more than parks to go to," she said. "We need our own kitchen and our own bathroom. Please help."

To the others who spoke of their struggles in the economy, Obama talked about statistics and the stimulus bill and promise of change. But to a plea so earnest and vulnerable, even the president could say little.

Looking into Hughes' grandmotherly face, he offered help.

"We're going to do everything we can. All right?" Obama told her, directing his staff to meet with her.

Goodson flew to Washington on Thursday to meet with U.S. Sens. Mel Martinez and Bill Nelson, pressing them to vote for the stimulus bill and make sure it includes a tax credit to get stalled public housing projects - like the one in his city - moving.

If the stimulus bill doesn't pass, "we're going to see more stories like the ones from the Hughes family," Goodson said. "It's the great American tragedy in the richest country in the world."

For now, thanks to the chance meeting with Obama, the Hugheses have food and shelter and a job interview. But they remember the other cars parked overnight, their owners sleeping inside.

Said Henrietta Hughes: "It makes me want to cry when I look and see so many people that are homeless."

unique

Hi, I think just moving the thread so it stays positive is a good bet!

I used to like debating but I'm too tired and want to stay positive. Plus my debates the past 8 years didn't seem to have much effect on people. They didn't seem to change their minds.