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rayhope
rayhope Member Posts: 228

I've read that dairy may be bad for bc patients.  I eat organic yogurt daily and also enjoy smoothies made with organic skim milk and whey protein.  Any info would be appreciated. 

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  • baywatcher
    baywatcher Member Posts: 532
    edited December 2008

    Dairy may be a cancer promoter. I have given up dairy. You should read the book "The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell. It will explain the dairy issue to you.

  • AccidentalTourist
    AccidentalTourist Member Posts: 365
    edited December 2008

    I have also given up dairy.  I followed a book called 'Your life in your hands'.  The author claims that no dairy is good for BC sufferers however organic or low fat.  The issue is growth promoting hormones in milk not the fat content.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited December 2008

    I too gave up most milk products.  Don't forget that milk is naturally full of growth hormones for the young calves that it is meant for.  However, when I was researching this topic, I found several references that showed fermented milk products alter these hormones and may actually be beneficial for restricting tumor growth.  Based on that, I do continue to eat Activia, fat free yogurt.

  • roxy42
    roxy42 Member Posts: 495
    edited December 2008

    Hi i read that too,So I eat low fat organic yogurt every day.I also know that yogurt will boost the imune system.....godbless roxy

  • Vavoom10
    Vavoom10 Member Posts: 60
    edited February 2009

    Hello,

    I am hormone receptor positive, meaning my breast cancer is fed by hormones.  I gave up milk too.  I was never a big milk drinker but now that I gave it up, I have found that it goes into a lot of recipes.  I have found a not so bad tasting alternative, Rice Milk.  There is also Soy Milk, but because Soy does contain some hormones, I chose Rice Milk.  It is a little on the sweet side, but I have gotten used to it with my cereals.  I was also told to stay away from meats by my surgeon, especially red meats.  All meat is boosted with the growth hormone by farmers, and even if they aren't, animals naturally have hormones just like we do.   However, my oncologist said I could have meat once in a while, the best cuts only.  And if I do have any meat, it will be organic without the extra added hormones. 

  • zamis
    zamis Member Posts: 8
    edited August 2009

    Hi everyone. I am new to the forums and this is the first time posting anywhere but "Not Diagnosed but Worried." 

    I keep three dairy cows and drink raw milk sparingly. I don't like milk but use fresh raw milk in coffee and with cereal and cooking/baking. For me it translates into free food but I don't eat yogurt or cheese and I try to avoid dairy products from any commerical source.

    The estrogen -like hormones from milk are not due to the recumbant bovine growth hormone.  Though rBGH is something to avoid, organic milk carries the same estrogen-like hormones as non-organic. The hormones are released into the milk by pregnant cows. the further along in pregnancy, the more hormones present in the milk, especially in the fat of the milk. For this reason alone it is good to avoid butter. Taking into account that dairies milk cows until they are - on avg. - 6 weeks from labor, there is no telling if the milk purchased as organic comes from non-pregnant cows (highly unlikely) middle term pregnant cow, or late term pregnant cows. If you would like to avoid estrogen-like hormones in your diet, it is good to avoid all commercial dairy, organic or conventional.

    Dairy itself, when fresh from grass fed, non-implanted cows that are either not pregnant or up to mid-term pregnant, is not such a bad food. If you are fortunate to live near a farm where a family cow is milked, this would be your best bet for milk that is not loaded with estrogen-like hormones.

  • BrendaSharon
    BrendaSharon Member Posts: 506
    edited August 2009

    OMG, milk too!!!???

    is there a

    DO   &    DON'T    EAT

    list, if so where

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited August 2009

    Well, IMHO, I think we're getting a little too worried about dairy!  I acknowledge that there may be some other very good reasons for some of us to avoid dairy, but:

    My mother never drank milk, disliked cheese and ate very little butter or ice cream, and she was the only one in her family (as far back as at least 3 generations) to develop bc.  I'm sure there are several others like her (no risk factors and no dairy) who had/have bc.

    As for the estrogen factor, does it really matter all that much whether or not you eat dairy if you're also on an AI?

    Remember, I said IMHOKiss!

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited August 2009

    The book titled, Anticancer by David Servan-Schreiber, has a lot of good informtion. Even if you drink organic milk and those cows have been eating organic soy and corn, it's problematic. You need to find organic milk from grass fed cows and avoid things like rBGH (which by the way are illegal in Canada and Europe).

    I don't think there are any miracle answers out there. But the book is worth reading - he makes sense on a number of things.

  • kk69Z
    kk69Z Member Posts: 167
    edited September 2009

    I get my milk from our local dairy and it has a label on the carton stating the cows are not given artifical hormones. Its nice to know these things. I also checked with my butcher who is also local and they don't inject hormones either. Its hard to buy food and wonder where it came from. I don't buy any food overseas.

  • CapeBretongirl
    CapeBretongirl Member Posts: 364
    edited September 2009

    Dear Hrf;  You are the 3rd person, in 3 days, that has suggested the book Anticancer to me.  I think that's a sign.  I'm running out to the book store right now!   Thanks   Angel

  • Lindissima
    Lindissima Member Posts: 239
    edited September 2009

     Any thoughts on goat milk cheese?

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