I want my friends back!

LuAnnH

I can't wait for these elections to be over so everyone can all be back together as one group!  I am so tired of those people or <-------------------- the ones over there.  I like all my friends I have made here and I don't care who you support and who you vote for.  I just hate all this separation and bickering!  Nov 4th can't get here fast enough!!!!!

djd

LuAnn - I am with you!  This election cycle has been more heated and divisive than anything I can remember.  I really hope that we can all heal and move on together, putting the election behind us.

Only 6 more days!

iodine

Thank the Lord, It will hopefully be OVER----and no hanging chads!!!!   Maybe my brother and I can have a civil conversation!

easyquilts

LuAnn....I'm with you, too...This has been stressful for everyone.....Thank goodness it will soo be over, and we can all go back to our lives....

Sandy 

NoH8

I want the elections over too, but I don't think everything is going to be the same after the election. There have been a lot of hurt feelings and things said that just won't go away on Nov, 5th. I don't excuse the election and campaigning for the prejudicial views some have expressed, particularly the anti muslim sentiment. That changes how I view people. I am of the view just because someone has or has had breast cancer doesn't make the person someone I want to converse with or spend my energy on.

LuAnnH

Amy, I have nothing against you and I'm sure you know it but politics is a hot topic.  People will always disagree, you have to learn how to agree to disagree and get back on track.  We are on these boards because we have breast cancer.  We are sharing our journeys, the highs and lows of it.  Some of us walk away and live a fruitful life, others are unfortunate and get dealt the death card.  Breast cancer is REAL breast cancer is SERIOUS to me!  I am here to seek out friendships, support, information to try and live as long as possible.  Politics happen to be the high point of the news right now but that is not why I visit these boards.  I have participated in both sides of the converstations and learned it was too stressful for me to do and stopped.  To be honest both threads are becoming too ugly to tolerate.  Lets get back to what we are here for.

During all this squabbling I have learned of 3 ladies that died of breast cancer (not necessarily all from this board).  I have learned of a couple of wonderful people who are in some dire straights.  Who is going to president isn't important right now, what is important is what can we do to keep them in the land of th living with thier loved ones.

I'm just trying to say these elections will be over Tuesday and maybe some women's lives because this disease got the better of them.  Isn't it more important to band together in something we can make a difference on than in something we really can't mak a difference.  Washington is corrupt and will always be that way, we need to put pressure on whoever has the power to put the money into research that will help us live longer!  That is the ultimate goal in this forum.

If you want to hold grudges it is a personal choice but I have my eye of the prize of my life and breast cancer not who is voting for th person I oppose.

Harley44

LuAnn,

Well said!   I feel the same way!!  In fact, I have been considering stopping this insanity, and just leaving the boards, but because I have met so many wonderful women here, I choose to stay. 

I will probably start hanging out more on the newly dx'd boards, just so I can help others who are new to all this craziness called bc.... 

Harley

NoH8

I know what you're trying to say, Luann. I have a different view. There are things that people disagree about that are deal breakers luann. I choose to distance myself from toxic people. To me that's not holding a grudge, it's protecting myself against being around that kind of poison. Disagreeing about whether taxes should be higher or lower is one thing and not worth getting upset about, but I draw the line at some of the trollish behavior I've seen from some of the people here. There aren't that many of them. I don't have enough regard for them to feel anger,

People on the boards didn't always like each other before the elections and they won't after the elections. That's just life. I have no problem if some people don't like me because of my views. This isn't about Washington or politics, it's about values.

BethNY

I like everyone over <------------------------here and over --------------------------->there.

I voted already, and I will be out of the country with no TV, computer or cell phone for a week during elections.

Can't we all just get along?

Anonymous

Luann, I think your friends were always your friend no matter who you voted for .... you're a sweetheart! I also think that there's some ppl who'll never get along ... even if they were voting the same way ... there's other things that divide ppl.

Anonymous

Wow!  I've kept my mouth shut, but I'm amazed at what a psychologist just said a few posts up.  However, I do agree with her and wish her well.  I don't know what toxic people she's talking about.  "Toxic" is bit extreme when it comes to discussing politics.  I think we all know that politics can start a huge debate with much disagreement. 

Shirley

Ivylane

Luann:

I know that you mean well and I get what you're saying, but I have to go with Amy on this one. I think she has been unfairly blasted on a couple of threads simply because she speaks her mind.  In my view she has been unfairly victimized by some on these boards (the political ones).  I have known Amy for awhile and she is a lovely person.  She, like many others including myself happen to have a more open minded view of issues.

For some reason there are those who feel threatened by this and feel the need to perpetuate hate and divisiveness.  Insinuating that there is "something going on" between Obama and Pelosi" is ridiculous....and yes Shirley, I am referring to your post on the repub thread.  While most of the "repub thread" regulars had the class to say congratulations to those of us who were Obama supporters, you just keep up the silly nonsense....while I am at it, I must say that cutting and pasting you tube videos hardly qualifies as doing "your homework" in being well informed in the political process.

I am not looking for a response here, just wanted to speak in defense of Amy and all of us who are happy to have Barack Obama and Joe Biden as Pres/VP. 

So, sweet Luann, I know your heart is in the right place, but like any other venue, classmates, workmates, neighbors, family, etc...we are not all going to get along.

'nuff said.  Now, let's hope that lots of money goes to cancer research in the new administration.  Be well everyone. 

otter

Hey, LuAnn--

Wanna come over and play at my house?  We're still friends, right?  I've tried to avoid the politicking on these boards, because there's nothing to be gained by it.

Hugs, LuAnn...

otter 

Beesie

Hmmm..... reading these posts it's quite obvious that we're not all going to get along. 

I think that's just reality.  Let's face it - in real life we don't get along with everybody so why would we expect to here?  In our everyday lives there are people that we feel comfortable with, people who respect us & enjoy us for who we are (quirks and all) and who we respect & enjoy for who they are (quirks and all).  And then there are people who simply rub us the wrong way for whatever reason. This board is no different.  One of the good things about the political threads is that they provided a bit more insight into our personalities, who we really are.  I've come to greatly respect some people I didn't 'know' well before (even Republicans, OMG!) and I've lost respect for others (even some I've defended before).   

While I question whether the objective that LuAnn laid out in this thread can be achieved, I think that we can at least try to not stoke the fires of disagreement.  To that end, ivylane, I think your post, insulting Shirley and stating a political position ("to speak in defense of Amy and all of us who are happy to have Barack Obama and Joe Biden as Pres/VP") in what was clearly intended to be a non-political thread, was doing exactly what LuAnn was hoping that we wouldn't do.  (And by the way, if you didn't know, I'm the original "troll", labelled as such because I dared to speak my mind and even worse, supported my opinions with facts. The best response to facts, as I'm sure you know, is to name-call.)  As you said, 'nuff said.

Anonymous

2 hours ago

ivylane wrote:

Insinuating that there is "something going on" between Obama and Pelosi" is ridiculous....and yes Shirley, I am referring to your post on the repub thread. 

Blue16, how dare you!!!!!  I couldn't get past this before I had to post.  What I posted on the repub thread was not insinuating ANYTHING was going on sexually or romantically between Pelosi and Obama!  Don't you dare tear down my character.  It showed how chummy they are.  SHAME ON YOU FOR THINKING ANYTHING ELSE...WHERE'S YOUR MIND?  IN THE GUTTER!?

Talk about mean spirited!

There are women on this board that do not know me.  How dare you!  And, Blue16, why did you change your name.  I won't change mine because I'm not ashamed.

I shouldn't be posting right now because I'm am so darned angry.  I'll finish reading your post before I post any further. 

DON'T YOU EVER  DARE AGAIN TO ACCUSE ME OF BEING A RACIST, OR THAT I'M INSINUATING OR ACCUSING PELOSI AND OBAMA OF HAVING AN ILLICIT AFFAIR!  

YOU, dear bc sister,owe me an apology!

Shirley

LAphoenix

LuAnn, I agree with a lot of what you say, particularly in regards to not wanting to spend precious energy on anger and argument, and recognizing that politics, like religion, is a hot button topic by nature.  

But I also understand where Amy is coming from, as far as feeling there were certain posts that went beyond the realm of normal political disagreement.  Some that were left on the Obama thread were just aggressive without provocation, whether they were directed at a particular person or all the people on the thread.  I expressed that feeling back in the beginning of the thread, before I even knew Amy that well.     

Amy is direct and honest about her feelings, and I guess she rubs some people the wrong way for expressing her beliefs in an unfiltered way.  But it seems that some folks are just itching to start a fight with her.  Maybe I'm mistaken in that impression, but that's just how it has struck me. 

I guess we can each decide who we want to exchange ideas with and whether we want to use the ignore feature for certain people we can't get along with, or whose opinions annoy us.  I hope that all of us who participated on the political threads will feel comfortable sharing thoughts on bc and other topics. 

         

otter

I've always thought there were two clear signs of good sportsmanship:  being a good winner (as well as a good loser), and being willing to shake hands and walk away when the game was over, no matter what went on during the game.

There are plenty of threads on this forum in which to debate the pro's and con's of the various candidates--but, what's the point, now?  It seems like some people just can't resist an argument.  If there's already one going on, they'll jump right in.  If there isn't one going on, they'll start one.

SO FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, STOP IT!  The election is over.  Somebody won, and somebody lost.  Nasty things were said on all sides, and feelings were hurt.  That's politics in the 21st Century.  Haven't you been watching the commercials?

Can't we let it go now?  There are more immediate problems--the ones for which this website was created.  Let's get to work on those...please?

otter 

Ivylane

Shirley:  I changed my name because I thought the old one sounded like I was "blue" or depressed.  Nothing more than that.  Now I have my favorite china pattern as a name.  I am not hiding anything and if you go back to any of my old posts, the new name is there. So everyone knows it's me.

As for my post, I was merely speaking up for Amy.  I wish you would just come out and post directly to whomever you are referring to and get it over with.  All these veiled insinuations of yours are old.

I won't post on this thread again, so you can relax now.  I wish you the best, truly.  

LuAnnH

You know I posted this thread before the elections were over out of frustations of high anxiety and tensions.  This thread is getting more negative attention after the fact.  I'm sorry I started this thread and will probably go back to spending more time among my mets sisters with whom we all tend to get along (even though many of you say it can't be done).  We are in the unique position of dying of this disease, like it or not.  We do not ask to be in this position nor have we done anything to deserve what cards we are dealt.  We just live with them and move on.  We do venture to the moving beyond thread because it gives us some form of living as opposed to dying.  But if this is what living is like then maybe it isn't all people think it is cracked up to being.

rumoret

LuAnn,

I didn't post much on the threads......but I hold nothing personal against anyone who posted their own thoughts or beliefs. I'm a big girl......and I grew up in a house of 5 sisters, 1 brother, 1 mother, and 1 military father. Even today we have our own opinions about who should be President.......but we put all of that behind us after the election. We elect a President and then it is up to Washington to show their true colors......I am never disappointed...........(sarcasm).

So......I hope my couple of statements will not be held against me.........because.......I have moved on. And....... should I need to discuss Political Topics........I will just post them on one of my Political Blogs that I read now and then.

Sending Everyone All-of-My-Love,

Terry 

Anonymous

Ladies,

Politics brings out strongly held opinions.  On some of these boards, things were said (written) in the heat of the moment that hurt people who held different opinions. 

If you supported Obama, congratulations.  Enjoy your victory, but please don't gloat.

If you supported McCain, lick your wounds and get over it.  Appreciate the fact that for the next four years you have earned the right to complain, forcefully and loudly, about all the things that the federal government will do that you don't like.

All of us need to remember that probably the greatest thing about this country is the way our government passes power from one adminsitration to another peacefully.  We will not always agree with all the choices those in power make, but the bottom line is this is our country, and we love and support our country.

Now, like LuAnn asks, let's let bygones be bygones and get back to the business of supporting each other through this horrible disease.  When the urge hits to exploit our differences (and aren't they really the things that bring spice to life?), let's remember that we have something that we can all agree on...  Breast cancer is a horrible disease that should not ever happen to anyone, that a cure can't be found quickly enough, and finding a way to prevent it is long overdue, and will hopefully arrive before it affects our daughters and nieces, and granddaughters.

Fitztwins

LuAnn,

I have stayed away from this forum for the most part since it went political. It stopped being a BC moving beyond thread.

Also, since I was dx with Mets, I have a hell of a lot more to worry about. There are more important things to me than arguing about politics. Life is too short and it just isn't worth it.

I belong to another board and we just kept away from the subject. Good move I see.

Janis