Dietary supplement may interfere with AIs

cp418

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/122803.php

 I can't remember if I had previously posted this article somewhere.

wishiwere

Hm....so scary what we don't know!  I wonder about the other 'soy' additives in bread, chocolate, crackers and so on...thanks for sharing what you found!

althea

I've been steering clear of soy for three years now based on similar reports that soy supplements mimic estrogen and therefore feed tumor growth.  I spent 20 minutes in the bread section one day looking for a product without soybean oil in it.  I left emptyhanded.  

Then I started making my own bread.  I used a recipe from a Shaker cookbook that called for milk and butter.  If I use nondairy substitutes, those ingredients come from soy.  Now I don't even have bread in the house.  I gave up butter all summer long.  And eggs.  Haven't made cookies in two months.  Haven't lost one single pound.  I drink raw juice twice a day.  I grind flaxseed and mix it with yogurt and honey for breakfast.  Juice is my lunch.  Can't brag about my dinners, but I'm not even eating desserts anymore.  I'm 5'8" and 180 lbs, so I should probably be at least 20 pounds lighter. I walk 2 miles 3-6 times a week and do all my own yardwork. 

All that fat I can't get rid of is creating estrogen.  Frankly, I'm not convinced estrogen is as evil as what we're led to believe.  Our bodies are designed to heal themselves, and when the ovaries stop producing estrogen, it is generated from other body parts, such as the fat we develop around our midsections.  Women are suffering immensely and immeasurably from drugs and procedures to deprive us of estrogen, and our bodies deviate doggedly to continue making it.  

<>I stopped being so paranoid about soybean oil for a while.  It's in everything.  I think it's more likely to cause heart disease than feed estrogen to a cancer cell anyway.  It's the concentrated supplements of soy that seem to concern doctors and scientists.  This isn't anything new.  What I'd like to know is where is the further study on flaxseed?  It also has phytoestrogens but has proven to stop and reverse tumor growth in mice. 

<>Not only is soy in nearly everything, another thing to be aware of is it's by and large a genetically modified food product. Keep learning about food, vitamins, minerals and you'll find what your doctors don't tell you about how to be healthy. 

wishiwere

Yes, I learned years ago how expensive it is to try to eat healthy. Dh is a type2 diabetic and good heavens, he says nothing is healthy for him except cardboard anymore. Now this.  it's just too daunting at times, to try an scale out the difference between financially eating healthy, or choosing the least of several evils.  I told him we need to get a farm and grow our own and just do away with store bought products.   Sure wish that was feasible.  But farmers are even hurting at the stores!

kerry_lamb

Althea, you've really got me thinking now. What you say makes so much sense. It's kind of 'GAME ON!!', where our body ups the anti because of the drug-interferences. I've just finished chemo and I guess the tamoxifen conversation starts now. It's all I think of atm..will fear drive my decision? Who knows?

Because we have a great health-food shop in Launceston which has cert organic flour, I'm going to buy a breadmaker and make whole-grain bread..it's easy and relatively cheap here in Tas to get good raw food because we can get easy rural contacts for it..for example my school has a little farm attached so I buy real eggs from there and am so grateful. I've discovered one of the cleaners at school has a farmer-brother who grows organic potatoes so it pays to ask around. It's also easy to have a garden here  to grow the greens. 

The weight thing is interesting..have you checked out your thyroid function (potential for even more tablets, I know..)..a lot of the girls on this forum report relief from the weight-war after geting things right. I am over drugs..I feel like the Toxic Avenger atm, but I'm fearful of carrying too much fat. I've got 20lbs to get rid of.. 

wishiwere

That is a good question about thyroid, as many of us have problems with that, either before or like myself and a couple, were dx at the same time with both BC and Low thyroid.  Something to ask about if you feel it's likely Althea. 

althea

Getting help for my thyroid sends me into near-fits of primal screams.  My learning curve on this issue started in January this year when I had a TSH result of 6.4.  My ob/gyn ordered that test.  At last, I had a culprit for my fatigue and I ran to my pcp with the belief I would get a scrip for thyroid meds.  Not.  I was told to exercise more and go on a low fat diet to lose weight. 

Another TSH a month later was 4.027, which according to standards 6 years ago fell in the normal range.  Never mind that the 'new normal' (as of 2002!) tops out at 3.0 and most women feel best at 1.0!  Nope, I'm without help on this, which is why I'm trying so hard to correct whatever's wrong with nutrition.  Was leaning toward the vegan camp for a while, but my fatigue returned and stayed for the last 2 months. 

 Last week I went to my best friend's chiropractor who is also a detox specialist. He determined that I suffer from levels of excess chlorine, lead and iron and has me taking parotid supplelments.  Not feeling real confident in his conclusions or his methods, but I'll add this to the growing list of all the other things I've been trying for the last 3 YEARS to get rid of my fatigue.