Did you know this, I didn't!

snowyday

Did you know this, I didn't!

snowyday

I have alot of Immigrant friends and really like them, I understand that we need them but this is ridiculous and not really fair to everyone who has paid in for years and years. I wish my friend wouldn't have sent this to me because it does upset me. What do you think! Pearl49                                Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: CANADA PENSION - A Must Read
CANADA PENSION - A  Must Read :  Only in Canada .


Do not apply for your old age pension...
Apply to be a refugee.  It is interesting that the federal
government provides a single refugee with a monthly allowance of
$1,890.00 and each can get an additional $580.00 in  social assistance
for a total of $2,470.00.
This compares very well to a single pensioner who, after contributing to
the growth and development of Canada for 40 or 50 years,
can only receive a monthly maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension and
Guaranteed Income  Supplement.
Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!

Let's send this thought to as many Canadians as we can and maybe we can  
get the refugees cut back to $1,012.00 and the pensioners up to $2,470.00,
so they can enjoy the money they were forced to submit to the
Canadian  government for those 40 to 50 years.

Please forward this to every Canadian you know.

mke

I think I've seen this before and it is a bit misleading.  I don't remember the details (chemo brain) but basically refugees don't get that payment every month, it's kind of a settlement package.  If you check it out I think that you will find that it isn't quite as implied by this e-mail.

Beesie

This seems to explain it:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/refugees.asp

AnnNYC

Thanks, Beesie! 

Madalyn, I too have taken to sending corrective info from Snopes.com in response to those group emails -- and I too seem to get fewer.  Some people, I think, are becoming a little more savvy about internet accuracy or lack thereof,

and some, alas, just don't want me debunking their pet peeves, so I think I just get left off the list sometimes!

snowyday

Yup the friend you sent the email sent a correction today I had seen this email a few times before and getting it from this person I really thought it was true as she worked for gov't for years but it's not true and I feel like a real ass for even posting it.  So my apologies to everyone. I'm so sorry. Pearl49

AnnNYC

Don't feel bad, Pearl.  Think of it as a public service!  One more place Google can send someone who gets that letter in the future, one more place where they can find out the facts!

Ann

snowyday

Thanks Ann I still feel like a moron for reposting it I usually don't but I'm on Ont. Disability right now and it pays nothing and I think I just saw red for a few minutes because I've worked for years and years and I get sick and have to live on less than a thousand a month. I'm doing it but it's so hard.  One day I'll be better and can work again thats my goal I just want normal again, so bad. Pearl49

AnnNYC

I understand seeing red!  I just posted on another thread about how I've been so cranky lately, feeling resentful of people who are better off than me financially...  That's a tough one.  Just trying to "let it go."

When I win the lotto , I'll send you some!

Beesie

Pearl,

This one may be a hoax but personally I believe that Canada is way too generous to immigrants and not supportive enough of all of us who've paid into the system for years.  My particular frustration relates to my parents and a good friend, all of whom are Canadians who spent all or most of their working years in Canada but currently live in the U.S..   If they need medical attention (my friend needs a major operation), they have to come here and establish residency just like any one who comes to Canada for the first time.  The waiting period is the same and the benefits once they pass through the waiting period are the same. So someone who's never stepped foot in Canada can come here and get exactly the same health benefits as my parents, who worked and paid taxes here for 35 years. Or more to the point, despite being Canadian and having worked and paid taxes here for 35 years, my parents can't benefit from our health system because they are not currently residents of Canada.  To acquire benefits, they would be treated exactly as if they were new immigrants.  That's my big beef!  And I can sure appreciate how you feel about disability payments too!

Sierra

Hi everyone:

Did not know that Beesie,
tks for sharing, NOT FAIR AT ALL



a bit O/T I know

Well, I have been on an Affordable Housing

list for FIVE YEARS NOW..Seniors of course

AND SO SIGN OF IT COMING



Don't make me go on about all the money being

spent here in our city.. by the councillors



While other people move ahead of the line

and obtain apartments. The only way to get in before
is if you are an abused woman or terminally ill. Who would
be able to get in or move if they were terminally ill, I wonder
Some days I think, I should get someone to give me a punch on the nose.



It is most frustrating to say the least



I am not on disability and only

know of what people relate to me

individuals who are on it. I have heard it is very minimal
and guess there are two types of disability, not sure on this.



Something wrong with this picture re housing





My vent for the day





Good luck to all



Sierra

dreamwriter

I am sorry that you perceive an unbalance for Canadians and landed immigrants.  To some degree you are correct.  While they await their acceptance, they are given funds for housing including health and dental.  And we get nada.  However, those of us who work and have benefits are even further off the curve.  We pay the deductibles and copays.  So someone new to canada gets things free and we pay 20 percent and $10 ded.   hmmmm how fair is that.  But then look to our friends to the south.  They are going bankrupt, losing their homes, all to cover what OHIP covers without question.

mke

There is a difference between refugees and landed immigrants - now called permanent residents.  The latter get nothing.  On the contrary, they must come into Canada with proof of support or finances.  Also they are accepted before entry, after police and health checks.

snowyday

I've heard the the Federation for Canadian Tax Payers is trying to have ODSP raised up by 18% they say that will get people on ODSP to the 1990's leve.  I had an appointment at the ODSP office here in London and the staff are so understaffed they have to book appointments for 10-15 minutes and the women I met was all business then at the end explained that she understood her husband passed away from cancer so there we were both leaving the room in tears.  It's not just the people on ODSP that are having a hard time the people working there have it rough as well and show their human side as quickly as they can.  If I can ever work again I'd love to work there, they are an amazing group. Really Pearl