OT-POLITCAL QUESTION

NoH8

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I have a friend, who at 36, still votes based upon abortion rights.

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I have found that candidates who support abortion rights also support the issues I care about.

Sure, terrorism is important as are many other issues and the USA is going to have to do a lot of fence mending after the Bush reign of terror is over-- which I think will cut down on the terrorism threats.

Anonymous

I believe Betty Ford and perhaps Nancy Reagan had bc. Bill Clinton's mom died of some form of cancer. I really don't think any politician is going to make bc a part of their platform.
Shirley

KariLynn

I'm not a one issue voter an would not support someone just because they say the support BC funding.

The whole health care system is a mess and with people dying of heart disease and lung cancer at greater rates than BC, it all needs to be funded - we're no more important than any other population.

I'll vote for an intelligent candidate who seems to have ideas of how to manage the health care debacle and who would have the support to get something done.

Jaybird627

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I have found that candidates who support abortion rights also support the issues I care about.

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I agree with you on this issue, Amy!

(I could go on but I won't! )

Jaybird

Jaybird627

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I have a friend, who at 36, still votes based upon abortion rights.

Erica

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I'm 47 and I, also, base my vote on "abortion rights." (I only quoted you because it seemed so negative...)

I think MANY people vote on the pro-choice/anti-choice (oops - that would be 'pro-life', but whose life???) issue.

Any way you look at it, though, this country is in a mess and the political 'system' is way out of whack and very out-dated. After all, it was founded many, many years ago when the "right to bear arms' was important!

As always, JMO.....

Jaybird
(a far left liberal if ya hadn't figured that out yet!)

JoanofArdmore

I'm 65, and I still base my votes on "abortion rights!"

Hey, it is We oldbies who got the right for women to control their bodies!
I'm NOT happy that people are twisting it and making it illegal again.

I've had 2 children whom I raised, and one "out of wedlock", whom I saw fit not to kill. I put him up for adoption.Just because abortions are legal (as in every other country) is no indication whether or not we see fit to GET abortions.
But we MUST not have the right of choice taken from us!

Move over, JBird, on your Greenpeace/WF,/ Women's Rights warrior ship.I'm here too.

NoH8

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I'm 65, and I still base my votes on "abortion rights!"

Hey, it is We oldbies who got the right for women to control their bodies!

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Thanks Joan-- I'm too young to remember life before choice-- even though choice has been eroded over the past years. Are you familiar with JANE?

miamimama

I'm 64 and do remember the days of young women dying after back alley abortions. That is one of the reasons I, like JBird, am a liberal - and proud of it.

Claire

Jorf

Let's shove over on the group W bench! Make room for more. I also remember illegal abortions. It's our job as oldsters to be sure that young women like pinkribbonamy know about the horrors of anti-choice. Talk about saving lives? How many would like to see their 14 year old daughter, their mother, their sister, their neighbor, their boss, their oncologist, etc etc etc die an awful death of sepsis and blood loss due to an illegal abortion. Yuck.

That said, back to the original question - I would like to see smart discussion of health care in general, more discussion of cancers and the diseases that cause even more deaths than cancer (like heart disease) or morbidity than cancer (like diabetes) discussed on a national scale. I'm not sure it would help be decide who to vote for for president (there's, honestly, never anyone GOOD to vote for) but more on a state basis it would influence my decision.

I'm registered as an independent. The only time I remember voting for a republican was a few years ago in Massachusetts when our democratic governor candidate was a horrid man whose name I can't remember! I voted for Weld just to vote against the other guy.

nosurrender

Well, I think if any candidate was thinking of adding BC to his/her agenda he/she just saw that we want even more than that!

I am grateful for your replies. They are a wonderful cross section of the country and it was very interesting to read.

Who needs Zogby and Rassmussen when we have BCO???

miamimama

I posted this a few days ago, but decided to also include it here.

Chris Matthews and Lance Armstrong announced that at the end of August they will be hosting two sessiions, one with Republican presidential candidates and one with Democrats. The forums will be specific to the candidates ideas about fighting cancer.

Emelee26

You're 65 Joan? I don't believe you...especially with your panty thread and all

JoanofArdmore

Emelee, are you the beauty in red?(My guess, because of shorter hair.)I LOVE this picture!!

Honey why? Old ladies cant laugh?
heehee, I SAID I wear granny panties!
If you're looking at my avatar...our family doesnt get white-haired until very late in life.I WISH I had lovely white hair.It would go so well with my arthritis!

Hugs, j

JoanofArdmore

QUOTE:"It's our job as oldsters to be sure that young women like pinkribbonamy know about the horrors of anti-choice."
Hi Jorf.Nice and comfy on the bench?
Have to add that one button from my protest days army jacket has a coat hanger in a circle with a slash through it.It's succint, and says backstreet abortions are NO JOKE.

I have been a registered Dem all my voting life.But I have no compunctuon to voting for a good Rep.I have a theory that when I vote for a Rep it makes my voice louder.Since in every county they know the # of registered reps&dems. Cockamamie, I know. They just figure more reps came out.But it makes me feel good.


know candidates cant touch issues like cancer care with a 10 foot pole.Too many uncontrollable things.
And I would be happy with a comprehensive change to the health-care system. We have seen sisters here, time and agan, refused the care they need because the insurance companies are telling the docs what do do.This is unacceptable!
Women Against Rape marched under the slogan "Take Back the Night!"
I think we should march under "Take back healthcare (to the Doctors!)"

And a simple vote for stem-cell research.That would do SO many SO much good.
Excuse me? Are we staggering back to the dark ages?
How frustrating is it?

rolling my eyes on the bench, Joan

JoanofArdmore

{{{Amy}}}!! You're so welcome!
("Thanks Joan-- I'm too young to remember life before choice-- even though choice has been eroded over the past years. Are you familiar with JANE? ")

Choice has DEFINATELY eroded over the past years.And if certain nuts have their way, will become a thing of the past!

JANE, the magazine?I've seen it, but understand it is for women in their 20s
Even my younger daughter Jane is in her 40s now!
Why, Honey?What should I see?

NoH8

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JANE, the magazine?I've seen it, but understand it is for women in their 20s
Even my younger daughter Jane is in her 40s now!
Why, Honey?What should I see?

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Oh Joan-- definitely not the magazine JANE. I was talking about JANE the underground abortion service to women before we had our medical rights http://www.fwhc.org/jane.htm !
I'm 43 BTW .

nosurrender

Joan how long did it take for you to grow your hair that long after chemo? I need something to look forward to!

iodine

I never knew about JANE. My rommie had to go to Mexico, with the help of a mafia(?) connection she had. I would not have known where to start to find a place to go.

JoanofArdmore

No, Amy.I never knew about Jane!1It was trips to Mexico or Peurto Rico for my friends too.Or convoluted arrangements with kind gynos who gave "thereputic D&Cs", if women were REALLY lucky.
OR there was always the filthy room up the twisted stairs, and the coat hanger.

Sorry, Amy, if you thought I was talking down to you.You DEFINATELY dont look 43!!!


Gina my hair is really thick and USED to just have a wave at the ends.It grew fast.My avatar was taken on my 65 birthday, 3 years after.But since my hair's so thick, I can just take a scissor & cut it at will--it fills in too-short places!And I was constantly cutting at it, especially the back, to get it off my neck.For my birthday I actually got a prefessional haircut. couple inches off..

Finished chemo in April '04.By June 04 I'd tossed my little stretchy turbin-thing in favor of feeling the breeze on my scalp and through my hair.Which people said :"Hmmmmm.Did you get it cut a little too short?" about.
I could never, NEVER wear a wig!Living with this hair is like having a perpetual Poodle on your head!And a wig?Stuck to my scalp when I could just have a cotton cap and be feeling the air?No way!!
So..I really wasnt IN a big hurry for my hair to grow in.It did, certainly by 3-4 months, and horribly curly too.
Before I "blew up", I used to get it crew cut every summer.
Now, I must say, I'm not keen on chemo reminders...

Hint: I have 2 male friends who covered their thinning hair w/constant baseball caps.Coincidence that they both lost much more hair?
And I have 3 bc buddies who wore wigs.And their hair took forever to grow back.
It's my theory that hair needs air to grow.Since my family tree is all Russian, we are users of the Russian method of tugging baby's hair:"Grow!Grow!"
(I did not do this after chemo.But I didnt cover my head either.)Maybe I should tug my eyebrows...which never grew back in!

Emelee26

Joan...your pic - you don't look older than 45, I swear!
YOu actually look like someone I know..she's lovely too..hehe
I wear granny panties sometimes..
I'm on the left - my mom is on the right - she never had chemo though...I come here to laugh and to support her and get info

JoanofArdmore

Emmee you are in pink? You and your mom are both so beautiful!!!And I love the dresses you're wearing!.
Your mom is the BC survivor then?Good for her!!!

Emelee--45, 65, what's the difference?Heehee!(It makes a BIG differenve to me!When I was 45 I had almost 50 lbs less, and had never considered bc as a potential threat.)

I loved your avatar picture, but this one is even greater!Thanks for brightening up the boards!
hugs, j

NoH8

It's ok Joan, everyone things I look younger than I am! Puerto Rico or Mexico--- too bad Michael Moore wasn't around to make a documentary about it.

nosurrender

Thank you Joan! I used to have thick hair. I hope mine grows back as fast as yours.
I wish I had the self confidence to go without a wig. I just don't. I hope that doesn't hinder my regrowth!!
love,
g

Jorf

Joan - I was in a hotel room a year or two ago and there was the exact same graphic on a sticker below the sprinkler on the wall! i think it was telling people not to hang their clothes on it. I thought it was pretty funny - I'm certain they didn't know it's history.

Re age - I used to get the comments about looking younger than I was but those stopped a couple of years ago - I think my 6 months in the sun in Brazil wrecked my skin or something. But since cancer I've had a couple of them again. I joined up at the health club and the manager said my name and said, "I used to have a nurse practitioner by that name." I said it was me and she said I look a lot younger than I did then (10 years ago!). Then the other day a man I work out with asked me how old I was (50 for another 3 days) and he laughed and I had to pull the story out of him to say he'd told someone he thought I was late-30's, maybe 40. AND, I went to renew my driver's license and the kid said I had to get a new picture b/c the other one was 10 years old and I joked, "I look exactly the same." He kinda looked at me. But then he pulled up the picture and said, "You do! Not too many people can say that." I realized it was just because my hair is now exactly the same length as it was then.

Emelee26

You're very sweet Joan