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Great pic Jazzy!
Some of you get up early, wow. I don’t get up until about 8am, I love sleeping in.
Goldie, no, I never got the refund. I emailed twice and sent a letter from my doctor, no response. I couldn’t call at the time because of my vocal cord. After a while, I was too depressed due to not eating and had lots of appointments, so I stopped trying. I might try again but I suspect too much time has passed, oh well.
Coffee time, morning all

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Good morning! It is cold here and the sun is shining. Beautiful day! DH and I plan to take a short day trip about an hour and a half north of here for a hike. It will be nice to get out in nature for a while.
Had the kids over last night for dinner. It was my DIL’s birthday celebration. She really liked the pot I painted and the sweater. She also quickly pocketed the money! I baked a spice cake with cinnamon cream cheese frosting. All enjoyed the dinner, cake and conversation. I am so happy my kids like coming here and spending time with us. It is not a chore for them and certainly not for me!
Have an event this weekend with one of my card playing buddies. She and her DH have a ‘country house’ and we are going for the afternoon on Sunday. We can hike, visit and eat a Beaufort Stew in an outdoor large shed with plenty of social distancing. It will be a small crowd, but still fun to see people and catch up.
At some point, I will start dragging the Christmas decorations out. It involves rearranging some furniture and fluffing. It is always fun to see what survived storage and what needs replacing. The kids do not decorate their homes or put up a tree. I feel like that makes me their Christmas place. No pressure!
Gotta get going. Hope everyone has a great day. Stay safe
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Wishing you a season filled with peace and unexpected gifts of kindness.

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NM,
Good luck with the zoom interview for school nurse position.
Jazzy,
Lovely pic!
Come on Covid-19 vaccine!
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Hello all. So good to hear everyone's about everyone's Thanksgiving. Our dinner was good, but not quite as exciting as NM's and illimae's. Thanksgiving's like that are truly ones to remember and laugh about for years, the ones where the bird almost didn't make it to the table. Our dinner was good and I had the younger granddaughters do the cheese plate and one of the older ones do deviled eggs. I really need new knives or sharpen the ones I have, I ended up giving the girls big knives to cut the cheese. It was really fun for them. They will probably grow up thinking that is the knife to use when cutting cheese. No fingers were lost.
I am doing some cleaning out while I am off from work and getting a good start on my Christmas shopping. I have a lot to buy for, counting the step grandchildren, I have 12 to buy for and the older they get the harder it is to buy for them. My budget unfortunately doesn't grow as fast as they do.
I went to St. Augustine with my daughter and her 2 girls last Saturday and came home Sunday. We had a good time and the girls even went in the ocean Sunday afternoon. Which was good, because we had a cold front move in, it is so weird how you can go from 80's to 50 or below in one day. This morning was cold. I think it was as cold as all of you. We don't really have too many winter clothes, mostly just adding a coat.

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Good Morning, Loungettes!Happy Hump Day! Last night's shift went pretty well, better than I anticipated, given that I was reporting off to major bully nurse #1. Got home around 4 ayem, was cuddled up in bed by 5, and out like a light until about 10:30. Best sleep I've had in a long time! I don't even remember dreaming. Then Sadie and I had a lovely cuddle/belly rub session before climbing out of bed.
I got some more info about the school nurse job. It's in a school district that is based about 45 minutes from where I live. Some of the schools in the district are closer. 2 nurses are retiring at the end of this school year. The school works with a contracting company that staffs school nurse positions, that company negotiates contracts and manages the benefits. & hour days, 5 days a week, hourly pay, weekly checks. Which does mean no school, no hours, thus no pay, but I can budget and plan around that easily enough.
Got the quote from the second garage door company in my e-mail this ayem. Replacing both doors $2,411.00, able to schedule mid January. Quote from company #3 for the same work: $1,800.00. able to schedule next week. 3 guesses which one I am going with! Best thing, I won't even have to touch the emergency fund, I've been putting a tiny amount of money into a house projects fund every week, and it's added up over time. Oh how I love automatic transfers!
Chi--Sounds like you and Bob and your housekeeper should get the vaccine fairly early on, that will be a good thing. Lake County surly has had it good, being so open that they are closing down to what the rest of us have just gotten to!
Illi--what a cute little bottle!
Jazzy--WOW!Great pic.
Morning, Karen!
Cammy Cat--If I get the school nurse position I would also get set up as a per diem worker doing home hospice at the agency my friend manages. I did that before when I was teaching, working summers for extra money. Sometimes I would work a full week covering for someone who was on vacation, sometimes I just worked a day or two a week helping out, so I always got to do other stuff like kayaking and gardening, too. It would be a totally different dynamic working with kids, and definitely a more positive one. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high, though. Don't worry about the bottle blood pressure number unless you are having dizzy spells. The lower that number the better! It means your heart really relaxes between beats. Your recipe sounds great! I bet the garlic tasted more like roasted garlic, and I love roasted garlic. Hmm, I haven't made that for ages, need to make some soon.It will make the house smell MARVELOUS!
Goldie--The schools here are doing a mix of in school and remote learning, with the amount of each being determined by the presence/absence of COVID positive tests. One grade in one school is "RED" and fully remote, the rest are "GREEN". Parents have the option of having their children go fully remote from the beginning of the school year. I'm not sure what the exact protocol is, but school nurses keep certain records that have to be maintained, so there is probably some way to do some of the work remotely. That's something I'll have to find out about during the interview. Last night's shift was pretty uneventful. I was working with really good CNAs so things went very smoothly. Sounds like Australia responded quickly and decisively to the resurgence of covid there. I bet there aren't any where near as many anti-maskers there.
Karen--Yeah, the CDC seems to be going in the wrong direction. Quarantines for contagious illnesses are usually set at twice the typical incubation period. You've probably heard that children not vaccinated for chicken pox have to stay out of school for 21 days past the start of the last diagnosed case?That's because the chicken pox incubation period is 7 to 10 days. So covid quarantine should be 28 days, based on the 7 to 14 day incubation period. Covid is smart with its long silent phase where there are no symptoms or positive test. The covid tests doesn't register a positive until about 7 days after exposure. The critical time for spreading covid is the 2 days before symptoms start.
Ingredients
- 1 apple - chopped
- 3 cups water
- 1/2 teaspoon cinnamon
- 2 cinnamon sticks
- 2 tablespoons maple syrup
- 1 tea bag black tea
- 3 ounces bourbon
- 1 ounce cinnamon whisky
Instructions
- To a sauce pan, add the chopped apple, water, cinnamon, cinnamon sticks, and maple syrup. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer for three minutes to soften the apples.
- Remove the pan from the heat and add the tea bag. Allow the tea to steep for three minutes. Remove the tea bag.
From <https://inspiredbycharm.com/apple-cinnamon-hot-toddy/>
I'm guessing the burbon and whiskey get added after the tea bag is removed?
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The CDC recommendation is not a simple reduction in days of quarantine. The report I read is they are seeking a "sweet spot" that will encourage folks to not ignore recommendations. The 7 day quarantine requires no symptoms and a next year in the last two days; the 10 day quarantine does not require a test but does require daily symptom monitoring either requires continued symptom monitoring and mask wearing.
Apparently there have been reports of people not quarantining due to fear of job loss and this is an effort to have a better response. Guess we will still have to wait and see...
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Woke up to a bit of snow, not forecasted, but the moisture is always appreciated!
That photo yesterday was taken closer to sunrise looking over to the west. I had to meet someone early to go in to the hospital for some work there on my project, and she was running late and looked up and saw the view and did not waste the opportunity to take that. Sometimes we end up being late to catch a moment like that (but we still got to the meeting in time).
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Saw the urologist today, emergency surgery scheduled for the morning. Have to be there at 6:15 am for 8:15 am surgery. I can't seem to stay home for more than 2 days!
Taking a fifth of vodka with me! J/K of course!
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Oh Goldie ❤️🙏😔
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Lori - sending you hugs. You have been through so much. Will they keep Darrell overnight tomorrow?
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DOTD, ok but not sweet enough for me.

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Lori, may angels be riding on your shoulders tomorrow.
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Oh Goldie - keeping your DH in my thoughts tomorrow - AND YOU!!!
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Lori, you'd better be wearing some big pockets to the hospital, to fit all of us in. Sending healing thoughts yours & Darrell's way--and a very short stay so he can recuperate safely at home. Meanwhile, put down that fifth of vodka and pick up a "handle" of Tito's.
Had a (hopefully) uneventful mammo today--had to redo one view because of a slight motion artifact. But because I'm back to routine annual screening rather than diagnostic, I got sent home rather than waiting for a radiologist to read the films. Fingers crossed there's nothing in my patient portal inbox in the next couple of days--back in 2015 (my last "routine screener") the tech said I should get a "letter" in a week, but the very next morning there was a message in my inbox that there was a "focal asymmetry" in my R breast, which led to ultrasound & then biopsy...and here I am 5 years down the line.
Chicago will be getting 20-25K initial doses of the vaccine, but the suburbs will receive part of the state's larger initial allocation. Holy Cross is the only place in Chicago where Bob practices (Little Co. of Mary is in Evergreen Park, Advocate Christ is in Oak Lawn, and his office is in Hickory Hills); though he only does stress tests and reads EKGs there, the mayor of Oak Brook is head of the medical staff and is a friend--so he might get into that first group at Holy Cross. Not likely at Advocate Christ, which has an entire COVID wing; if not at Holy Cross, most likely at Little Company of Mary, where he had encountered more patients who tested positive. And Chicago will be getting more doses every week.
He was going to take a bunch of consults tomorrow and stay at the hotel in Oak Lawn. But I pointed out that if he keeps taking every cardio consult that comes down the pike, the colleague with whom he alternates weekend call might get miffed and stop covering for him. Bingo--he'll be home for dinner tomorrow.
We just found out that the old-school Cantonese-American joint in an old mansion on Sheridan Rd. is closing Dec. 12--not because of the pandemic (they've always done mostly take-out and have been busier than ever) but because after 40 years the owner wants to retire, and the offer a local condo builder made him for the mansion & lot was just too lucrative to turn down. So with the dinner (reminiscent of the classic Cantonese-American joints of my Brooklyn youth), we chilled a bottle of Mumm Napa Deveaux Ranch Brut Rose 2011--just right.
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Mornin' ladies,
LORI I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT U MEANT ABOUT THE SURGERY at first if it was u or not. WTF I'm still so sorry for Darrell an hope u come thru this all right. Damn u can't get a break here. Bring in a rolling keg of anything everyone will unerstand. I can't even say relax cuz this is not ur time to. I can not say sorry enough to u, cuz I do feel this is a super rough time for you an Darrell <<<PRAYERS>>>
Karen every time I see <mainly on FB> no masks I wonder WTF are people thinking. Instead of this these are my rights BS, it shoul at least be their duty as a caring person for the next guy. I have never heard of so many people I know getting this an it all has to do with people not wearing masks. Cuz when I ask questions that's what it comes down to===NO MASKS. So far it is younger people and they don't get as sick BUT they r exposing more people than they know.To me this isn't being stubborn it's just being stupid. And this going to school 1/2 full is BS everyone should stay home rather than tking any chances Joey know a couple of kids <in short School> that got it, so what good is this idea.
Kim this has to be over sometime and to me school is ur best bet and if u can fill in the summer then there is no reason u shouldn't have this. It sounds great to me. And again something u would be perfect doing and everyone would gain from having you.
Hey Teka, Beaver, Minus.
JC u really have a plan coming together and it sounds like fun as usual, just be careful.
Sandy u always have such interestin wines to keep u going strong. I still believe Bob should be first on the list his age too and you. But I don't get consulted on this.
Oh Joey has to have 3 teeth pulled <they're good> but he has a rare conition that this has tobe done and he told the dentist RARE??? not in my house.We're handing this crap down now.
My stupi story, I told Jodie how I really wante Christmas this yr. I really never say anything about it. But cuz of circumstances I would like them to come over early afternoon, appetizers, presents, dinner then a couple of fun games and just have a good time. She was all for it. Then at night she talked to Leslie and said they could come a couple of hrs. <I know this was after she talked to FF> If he is so against it, I think leave it home <Yes it> I don't ever ask her for time but this time I really want it for Leslie and her and Marty has always like Jodie, well since FF came in, not as much. And she is so much fun without him, he just brings the word boring to a new lower level. So who woul like him anyway. When Bob <my Bob> went there to fix something he talked about all the things he know about plumbing, yea right he can barely tie shoes, the complications are just to much for him. Anyway now we see.
Happy Friday Eve, an have a good one
LUBS U ALL
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Hello all! The hike yesterday was wonderful. We took the scenic route there and saw some areas we had never been to. The preserve is a large (about 14 acre) rock outcropping. Not sure how it got in the middle of some wood, but it was very interesting. Once we found the actual trail it turned out to be a bit too steep for us to manage. We mainly wondered on the rocky area. Even got home in time for DH to get his daily nap.
Today, we walked our three miles, then I picked up pine cones, sticks and limbs that had fallen during the strong winds earlier this week. I had to dump the barrel four times! Will be taking the afternoon off to read my latest book.
Goldie - So sorry to hear about another hospital trip. This is due to the kidney stones? I would definitely have something for later in the hotel room to serve as the DOTD.
Sandy - Congrats on the results of the mammo. It is interesting how the CDC is distributing this vaccine. I do think the frontline doctors, nurses and teachers should be first. I can wait as I am still not getting flu, shingles or pneumonia vaccines. I am not an anti-vaxer. I do not see the point of taking something that causes sickness or doesn’t prevent sickness. I haven’t had the flu in years. A close friend got the shingles vaccine and now has a huge case on her thighs. Hopefully this Covid vaccine will get things closer to having mainly mild casesfor only a few people.
NM - School nursing is different these days. Is it done virtually? I imagine there can be drama anywhere.
Cami - Families can be so difficult. Fingers crossed you can work out a good time for everyone.
For all those I forget to mention I hope all is well and everyone is staying safe!
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Well, I've never gotten the flu in years when I got the shot--but the one year I didn't get vaccinated, it hit me like a ton of bricks. Gordy too. And after seeing what my mom (and several friends, all in their 40s) went through with shingles--and then got pneumonia before she could get her vaccine--no way I'm skipping either of those shots. Prevnar 13 is a once-in-a-lifetime, and Pneumovax is every 5 yrs after age 60. Bob got a different type (mycoplasma pneumoniae, aka "walking pneumonia"), a bacterium for which there's no vaccine available, twice in one season three years ago. He was miserable--even though he didn't have fever, he was coughing constantly and had to take Levaquin, which can sometimes cause arrhythmias. Pneumococcus is far worse. And though the TDaP (tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis) is weaker against pertussis (whooping cough) than the old DTP (pulled from the market over preservative issues), it's still potent against tetanus & diphtheria. If what I had last Dec. wasn't mild COVID (Bob didn't get sick), it was likely a rather mild form of pertussis--the cough was deep & dry, not barking, and my fever was fleeting. (I last had a TDaP booster in 2015, recommended every 10 yrs).
"Causes sickness?" No way. A temporary injection-site reaction (sore red arm) or short-term "flu-ey" feeling is not the disease itself. "Doesn't work?" Shingrix is 95% effective, permanently. (Zostavax was only 50%, waning to zero after 3 yrs). Your friend who still got shingles either had the old Zostavax vaccine (and maybe after it wore off), got shingles before Shingrix took effect (a couple of weeks after the second shot) or was part of that 5% who don't respond to the vaccine. It doesn't cause shingles. And you can be an asymptomatic carrier of influenza virus or pneumococcus, shedding the virus or bacteria and passing it on to others who have not been vaccinated and who will more than likely get sick. Getting vaccinated against pneumonia, flu, diphtheria, pertussis (and if you haven't had them or been vaccinated against them, measles, mumps, rubella & polio) is more like wearing a mask and physical-distancing: it is a duty to protect others. (You can't pass shingles to others--the varicella virus is already hiding in your body if you had chicken pox, but the vaccine inactivates it). So it will be with the SARS-CoV2 vax: having a sore arm and perhaps feeling crappy for a couple of days is a very small price to pay for not getting COVID and not being able to transmit it.
You have been very, very lucky. Can't dodge the bullet(s) forever.
Oh, and just this morning I got the "all clear, see you next year" mammo form letter in my patient portal inbox. Whew!
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Thinking about you Goldie and wishing the best for you and DH.
Friendsgiving went well and yesterday’s pre-gamma knife (brain rads again to one met) covid test was negative, so that’s good to know.
Tonight’s DOTD is this one. I never drink white wine, haven’t tried one I liked yet but I’ll give it a shot.

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Thanks, Sandy for offering the vaccine explanation I was thinking about doing. Speaking from experience, I am one who had Zostavax and 5 years later had shingles just as the research showing Zostavax effectiveness was down to essentially nothing after 5 years. Got the Shingrix as soon as it was available here! I am definitely a pro-vaxer!!
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Mae - HOORAY for the negative Covid and hope everything goes well tomorrow with the Gamma Knife. Interesting about the wine. I drank white when I was younger but only red in the last 40 years. Now I really enjoy several of the Sauvigon Blanc wines. Looking forward to your review.
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Minus, keep in mind that my review comes from a girl that likes boxed wine that tastes like juice, lol
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Ilona, that Sauvignon Blanc is almost certainly going to be somewhat dry. Because Bridge Road is from various locations all over CA (but mainly Central Valley), it'll have a mostly citrusy aroma. It's Aldi's house label, part of the E&J Gallo empire. One aroma it won't have is what the French call "pipi du chat," which is exactly what it sounds like--characteristic of many exclusively-Napa Valley Sauv. Blancs grown in vineyards close to eucalyptus groves.
If you like your wines on the sweet side, look for Sauternes, Barsac, lightly sparkling Italian (or CA Italian-style) Moscato "amabile," or the words "late harvest" on the label when it comes to whites. Many American rieslings have a little graphic on the rear label showing how sweet or dry they are. Another indicator of sweetness is a "residual sugar" level on the label, right near the alcohol (or "ABV") percentage. For bubbly--Asti Spumante, or the words "demi-sec" or "doux." For reds, Port or any Port-style: Yalumba from Australia makes a great one. There are some sweet or at least off-dry American "native" or "hybrid" varietals, many of which are made in states not known for their wines (at least not standard European varietals). If you have a branch of Cooper's Hawk Winery in the Houston area, they have some interesting ones (including an amaretto-flavored sparkler).
Usually, the lower the alcohol, the higher the residual sugar (i.e., which hasn't fermented) and the sweeter the wine. An exception is fortified wines--which are sweet but much higher in alcohol due to the addition of some form of brandy. Examples are port, sweeter sherries (oloroso, cream, PX) and Madeiras (Malmsey, Bual), and the deceptively named "vins doux naturelles" (Muscat de Frontignan, Muscat Beaumes de Venise, etc.).
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Well Muscat is too sweet for me, however you would probably really like Muscat. Too bad for the darn virus or I would bring over my small half/bottle of Chateau Miselle Sauternes - Grand Vin de Bordeaux bottled in Landrias, France. I bought it on a whim at a tasting event at Total Wine. Not sure why since I don't usually favor sweet wines. Maybe I'd only have a very small sip after dinner - if I ever open the bottle.
I do agree Mae that there are some pretty decent box wines. I see that Costco even has their name brand Kirkland on box wines now. But as some of you may know, I rarely spend more than $10-15 for a bottle of wine. I get some good wines but am definitely not a high dollar connoisseur.
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Minus, sweet wine solution: have with unsweetened berries such as blackberries, they balance each other out nicely!
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Thanks for the info Sandy, I appreciate it.
So, I liked it. It wasn’t sweet like some reds but actually didn’t seem dry or boozy, as most whites I’ve tried were. No particular flavor popped out at me but I was drinking it while eating dinner and garlic bread but it was good. I’d have it again, if I was just having a glass or two. Might go ahead and finish the little bottle.
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Peppermint rum creme

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We're (sloooowly) working our way through a 375ml bottle of Nicolas Sauternes we got at Cellars' Oct. French bistro wine dinner. Not the sweetest or most unctuous Sauternes I've ever had (that would go to an '85 Yquem which the cellarmaster insisted we open...and finish...at a tour of the winery, on my very first trip to Europe), but quite lovely. I do have a soft spot for Ch. Suidiraut, the first one I ever tasted, at our 10th anniversary dinner at Froggy's in Highwood, IL. But some amazing ones that were not from Sauternes but in that style (very late harvest, botrytised--infected with the fungus otherwise known as "noble rot"): Eldorado Gold Sauv. Blanc by Ferrari-Carrano (CA) and Sokol-Blosser Late Harvest Chardonnay (OR, a winery better known for Pinot Noir). That was the only late harvest Chardonnay I've ever encountered.
There are also German "eisweins" (and their NY and ON counterparts "ice wines"). Those are made from grapes not harvested until the first real frost--the cold weather concentrates the sugars but without the honey overtones of the botrytis fungus. Before the wildfires, Bonny Doon near Santa Cruz would make a version called "Vin de Glaciere" (literally, "Wine from the Icebox"--the winemaker Randall Grahm is a notorious punster). Instead of waiting for winter weather unknown to the Silicon Valley/South Bay Area, and not wanting to rely on nature's whim to produce conditions conducive to botrytis, the grapes instead are frozen and then thawed out, yielding a thicker and sweeter juice when pressed.
American sweet reds tend to be late harvest Zinfandels (some of which are fortified into CA "port"); but Quady Vineyards in the San Joaquin Valley makes a deep red sweet black Muscat (a grape formerly relegated to sacramental use) called "Elysium;" its lighter but still sweet orange Muscat counterpart is called "Essensia."
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