The Blahh's

Did any of you ladies feel the blahhs after your 3rd it was a hard one for me to get over. Now I go for my 4th one and I can tell I never got back to my good attiude I had and I am sick of the wig sick of staying home laying around but have no energy for much but work sick of waking up at 4 am for the day sick of the extra pounds I use to have  nice figure for a 56 year old. I know in my heart I should be happy to be here and getting this second chance but all this started in Feb. and chemo in May so its been a longggggggg summmmmmmer and I just want to be me again is there still a me in there? Sorry I had to vent I have sons and they have no clue and I work with all men which is great no gossip  but if they get a cold they have to stay home hmmmm venting again ....

Maura

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  • texasmom
    texasmom Member Posts: 121
    edited July 2008

    I am 57 years old and usually like to stay very busy working at my job or around the house. I am still working full time. I have my third chemo tomorrow and I have gained weight. I feel ugly. Some days it is really hard to have a positive attitude. I have support at home and some gals that give me sympathy (they seem to understand more than men), but now that I am in treatment and had my surgery my family feels that I am on the road to recovery and I still feel broken.

  • enjoylife
    enjoylife Member Posts: 578
    edited July 2008

    Texasmom I know how you feel you are right too about feeling broken its because we are in a way but we will be a better person is what I use to feel before treatment #3 so tomorrow is 4. I dont have much support at home a 17 year old son and a 23 yr old and you know how males are most of them anyway. I have lost contact with allot of what I thought were friends too I guess they didnt know what to say so they stay away even though we know we will be ok. Good luck on your third one and keeping busy is what I try to do but with the house I would rather be outside but the heat bothers me to work in the yard so it will have to wait. Maybe someone who has been through it can tell us when we wont feel broken anylonger. I hope your summer and treatments fly by fast for you...

    Maura     Sealed

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited July 2008

    Maura, I worked through most of my chemo, only took off the day of and the day after, and then the day mid-cycle when I saw my onc. I don't know if it was such a great thing because my job performance was not up to par, and I'm sure my annual review will reflect it.

    I didn't think I was doing so badly until my boss came in to talk to me shortly before I left for my surgery. She really reamed me out. Of course, she does that regularly to each of her workers, so it wasn't unexpected...she looks for a weak point and pounces.

    I feel more fulfilled here at home on my short-term-disability post surgery than spending my days at the office fielding emails and trying to be productive. I have projects that are physically appropriate. Planning them has spurred my energy. I hope I can start a major one in a couple of days (repainting a table).

    Luckily I didn't put on extra weight during my neoadujvant chemo. But I still need to lose some. It bothers me that my stomach sticks out further than my chest since my boobs are gone. That's another project on my list - reduce abdomen.

    Of course, I can't expect to spend all my time on big projects, so I have a list of some small projects...like tonight my daughter and I are going through all the boxes of make-up and hair products we have in the bathroom and will throw out old stuff.

    All that said, I hit a very down moment this morning when I was getting dressed. I know I have two more chemos and rads ahead of me and the hair I've started to regrow will be lost again. My mx scars are ugly (OK, they're very fresh, but still, they're ugly), so I have vowed that I WILL have recon next year. And it just all hit me this morning in a way that made me feel like giving up...why bother doing anything. The interest I had for my projects slipped away.

    But somehow, I put myself back together...a small accomplishment led to feeling better. And by this afternoon, my energy had returned and I'm anxious to start a project this weekend.

  • enjoylife
    enjoylife Member Posts: 578
    edited July 2008

    Nancy thank you I will be registering my baby who is almost 18 for his last year of high school and I am going to have him go through all his varisty clippings from our newspapers for the last 3 years so I can go to the scrapbook shop and start his scrapbook that is going to be a big one and he wont see it until its graduation day May 22, 09 so you have helped me focus on a project that needs to be done and I have never done a scrapbook before so you have given me some inspiration so that should be another thing to pick you up as all these ladies have me I have only 2 very good friends the rest have ran away and one actually died 3 years ago and begged me to go for a mammogram and I didn't until 08 but I am here and I will be fine and she is up there cheering for me... Have a good week and weekend and keep those projects up I think its awful what your boss did to you but what goes around comes around sooner or later for sure.

    Maura

  • texasmom
    texasmom Member Posts: 121
    edited July 2008

    Nancy, Getting started on project always keeps me going. For me, getting started is easier than finding time to finish. I did a scarpbook of my daughter's basketball career but there was so much that I haven't finished it all. I want to do a scrapbook for both my kids from baby to present but that is a future project. My project right now is to clean eveything out of my house that we don't need and by golly that is alot of stuff. I have hauled off gobs of bags to goodwill. My excuse is that my husband and I eventually want to downsize to a smaller house that requires less upkeep, but in the back of my mind I kind of feel that by getting rid of stuff I'm kind of starting a new life or having a new beginning. I don't want extra 'stuff' to clutter my life and have to take care of...I want to spend some time on me for a change. I have always been momma hen and taken care of everything for my bosses, husband, and kids. I kind of like being in control (that really changed). I am trying to make everyone more independent so they won't miss me when I'm gone and get the piece of mind of knowing they can do without me. My youngest is 19 and she is in college so there is no moving away from where we live now until she finishes. She has too many friends and a job so she loves where she lives. I am not sure that I will ever feel that I am not broken because I have lost that naive feeling of nothing bad is going to happen to me, those things always happen to other people.

  • enjoylife
    enjoylife Member Posts: 578
    edited July 2008

    Texas mom bad things do happen to good people too but dont loose all your naive feelings and we have just as much of a chance of being here all of the tomorrows as anyone I worked with  guy and he had a anriosum June 1st this year so we shoud all appeciate every day and I use to HATE winter but now I think bring it on because spring is right behind it. I hope to downsize and buy a smaller house in a few years this is the family house and the family is broke and I dont need this much room and I want to feel like its my own little house but in order to do this I have been cleaning out and throwing away etc but I also have to feel like I will be here to complete it and I will god willing ...

  • texasmom
    texasmom Member Posts: 121
    edited July 2008

    Enjoylife- My sister in law had an aneurism and she was age 49 or 50. She had three kids with two of them in college. It was very sudden and so sad.

    I don't want it to sound like I'm expecting the worst, but I want to be more prepared for whatever happens in the future than I was this time. I was totally blind sided. I expect to be around to see my smaller house and putter around on the patio. I love to garden, camp, and fish. Haven't been doing much of any of those things. It is too hot in Texas to even be outside very long. I did take a vacation to Florida this month which was fun but really hot. I was determined to see my son whom I hadn't seen in a long time. I had chemo #2 and then caught a plane 3 days later. Like I said I was determined and praying the whole time that nothing bad would happen and I would feel OK for the whole trip. It went well.

    Your son plays football or some other sport? That senior year in high school can be a whirlwind with prom and college stuff going on. They can get a bit of senioritis too.

    What was your diagnosis? Are you in the July chemo group?

  • enjoylife
    enjoylife Member Posts: 578
    edited July 2008

    My son plays football and I have always been the one to go to the games not that I know why they chase that brown ball, but I have had to explain to him I dont know if I can be at all the games in town out of town no way but I will try and stay at least half time my ex just needs to be at them or at least come in the second half he never goes to the games. I will go from chemo to 6b weeks of rad. but by Friday I told Joe I am wipped out from working and since chemo 3 I have been up for the day at 4 am . I think he understands a little but its his last year. I want to be there for the graduation and that is what I told him. I am allot like you Texas mom I always had things planned years ahead and I had started nesting when I found out to get rid of stuff too and now when I think I want a small house some little thing in the back of my head says I hope I get to see grandbabies and spoil them like my grandma did etc Now I think twice about alot of things not to be negative but to ask god to give me the time and I will do my part and maybe to have someone someday to hold me and tell me eveything is going to be good ....

  • texasmom
    texasmom Member Posts: 121
    edited July 2008

    My daughter played basketball for years and it was a great source of entertainment for me. I missed those days when they were over. My husband came to many of her games, but at some point he quit coming as much. Too much drama for him I guess. She played ball in college for a little but decided it wasn't as much fun as when mama was around so she quit. It was time to move on to other things. She planned to move home anyway but my getting sick helped her decision. She is going to college close to home this next year and she goes with me to chemo. We take a DVD player and rent a movie. It makes the time fly by and it is so nice having her there. My husband is working but my daughter can arrange her work schedule. That may change once school starts in August. It is amazing how she can be such a kid and yet be so strong for me. At least we finished all the high school things before I found out about the bc.

    You made me cry. I have always had all sorts of plans and expected to live to be 87 like my parents so I thought I had plenty of time to do everything I wanted to do. That is why I decided to get the chemo so I can say that I did all I could while I could to knock this thing out. I am hoping that I have no recurrence in the future but think I will continually worry about it. I am also going to have 6 radiation treatments after I finish chemo. I will also get herceptin for the total of one year.

    Working is really hard sometimes. I get up at 5:30 and this past Monday I just couldn't get up. Usually I am up and ready for work but for some reason I was exhausted so I went in late.

    I have to remind myself sometimes of all the things to be thankful for because I get to thinking poor me. I'll bet we could come up with a whole list of good things that offset some of the bad.

  • Curlylocks
    Curlylocks Member Posts: 1,060
    edited July 2008

    Hi Enjoylife,

     I was diagnosed at age 41 in Oct 05 and have been out of chemo 2 years now but remember the "blahs" very well.  I had 8 treatments over 6 months, 4 a/c and 4 taxol.  I started treatment early December and didnt finish until May, it was a long winter and so crappy not feeling well.  I did put on 25 pounds during treatment but am happy to report that now almost 2 years post treatment I have lost 15 of those pounds with hard work.

    I think you find out who your true friends are throughout the diagnosis and treatment process, sure people claim they dont know how to act or what to say around you...but geez I'm not a lepoard and dont plan on going anywhere soon!  I had a best friend of 20+years visit me once during treatment, didnt call me on my birthday and then finally I blew up at her and said listen "dont you think that I'm not scared here", I'm the one that is going through this crap...we have mended fences and she calls me quite often now...

    I found the 1/2 way mark of treatment #4 the hardest as I was tired of being bald, tired of not sleeping, tired of feeling totally fatigued and useless, tired of being a cancer patient and just wanted to be normal like everyone else my age!   Treatment does end and yes it was the happiest day of my life when my hair started to sprout again.  I was always using my dh's mirror on his truck to see the back of my head.

    Be kind to yourself and listen to your body even if you feel like you are not doing anything, this is all about you and getting back to good health again.....

    Your bc sister
    Michele
  • bethanybeane
    bethanybeane Member Posts: 334
    edited July 2008

    Dear Texas Mom and Enjoy Life,

    Just about everything you have said resonated with me completely -- about planning to live til I'm 87....feeling fat.....feeling vulnerable....feeling broken....... I am also a Texas Mom - in Austin. Monday, I have my 2nd TCH infusion of 6 and then radiation. I feel like I'm in a bubble, like my future is uncertain (*even though I know it always really was) but also feeling very blessed to have the insurance and job that allow me to get this treatment. I just keep thinking that after next week, I'll be 33% done with chemo....I send my good wishes. Bethany

  • collector
    collector Member Posts: 193
    edited July 2008

    THis thread comes at the perfect time for me.  I am supposed to have my last (of 4) treatments on Monday the 21st but this last round has left me exhausted and I wouldn't be surprised if they postponed me.  I have not had unusual SEs but everything I got for rounds 1 and 2 was so much more debilitating this time.  Today I thought I had my fever under control after Levaquin and lots of tylenol but now it's back up and the things I got done today just zapped me. I'm so sick of this whole thing and still have the last chemo and 33 radiation treatments to get through as well as the start on Femara which scares me a lot.  Nice to know that others are feeling the way I am.  I hope we all feel better soon and that all of this stuff works out for us.

  • bethanybeane
    bethanybeane Member Posts: 334
    edited July 2008

    Dear Curly Locks,

    Very nice L O N G  hair -- was it always curly or was that a special surprise from chemo? 

  • Curlylocks
    Curlylocks Member Posts: 1,060
    edited July 2008

    No bethany,

    I had long curly hair past my shoulders pre-bc and it came back even curlier.  But it is hair and I promised myself I would never complain about it again.LOL.

    That avtar was taken last August, my hair is longer now....

    All the best in finishing your treatment, it does end and the hair loss is temporary although it doesnt feel like it when you are going through it....

    Michele 

  • enjoylife
    enjoylife Member Posts: 578
    edited July 2008

    I think you will feel alot better when the last is done my 3rd one was a strugle for me and I just did my 4th out of six so I am happy its over and looking forward to Aug 28th last one. Collector I ran a fever with my 3rd one and never did before maybe you didnt drink enough I know I didnt and the weather here is very hot and humid keep you chin up and anything else up these ladies wont let you get down they are better than the doctors and I will also go to 6.5 weeks of radiation and plan to work full time but by the time my 57th years young birthday is over I hope to celebrate and enjoy the holidays and not let them stress me out not much under the tree but love and that is enough for my kids and MOM so just try and think good thoughts and I know its hard I think the meds in my chemo perk me up today yesterday I was blahh. My boss did put it in prospective you have not been going through this since chemo started you have been going through it since you suspected it and that was 07 and 08 I finally got the nerve to go in...so come on 09 lets slap it silly''

    I love this site and tell everyone about it too

    Maura

  • enjoylife
    enjoylife Member Posts: 578
    edited July 2008

    Texasmom I hope to live old too I have seen woman in thier late 80 out east and here say oh yes I had breast cancer 20 years ago bless thier hearts. I want to grow old enough to get my payback from my sons my cancer has brought the payback from my ex he told his sons and me I was and always will be the love of his life but I dont go backwards too many scares it would be like asking for BC again, and then I want to watch my grandkids which I dont have and love and spoil them as much as I spoil my granddog and to live on my own a few years and maybe have someone swoop me up I will have a virgin boob on next summer never touch hmmm but anyway you find out who loves you and you find out who cares and unfortuntly we loose freind thier excuse is I didnt know what to say hello "I am here" would be a good start. I havent been as lucky as you to have my sons there with me but they are boys 17&24 and he is busy working and doesnt want to see it at all but the 17 year old did call me from walmarts and ask if I needed red popsicles and that touched my heart keep up good thoughts I have 6.5 weeks of radiation and a full time job but next to chemo it will be fine and we will get our nice looking butts back new hair I cant wait it will be like a new 51 Chevy motor rebuild dont even know if they made them back then

    Maura waiting for the side effects but 2 more to go and yahooooooooooooo

  • texasmom
    texasmom Member Posts: 121
    edited July 2008

    Bethanybean - Glad to hear there is another Texas mom on this board and as close to me as Austin! You are also HER2+ so we are most likely on the same treatments. I just had my 3rd treatment yesterday. Not as good as #2 at all! I'm kind of struggling today and plan to go back to bed after I talk to everyone a little. I think onc gave me a lighter dose for #2 because I was going on vacation. This time he also added a couple of days of taking steroid pills because apparently I have some kind of allergy to the chemo and my ankles have been swelling. I go for my shot this afternoon so have to perk up before then.

    My work has been very supportive. I am between assignments and viritually have little to do but show up.That almost makes it worse because I have to fill my days with something but the way I feel today I am not sure I will be able to perform well on a new assignement and am not sure if I will have to take more days off for chemo because of taking the steroid pills. They make me feel goofy but maybe I will get used to them or it is the chemo. My work may eventually lose patience with me. I have lots of sick days & vacation days saved up which I'm using pretty quickly. I have reached my out of pocket for the year on my insurance. And I'm getting cured so life is good!

    I need to share something funny that happened to me yesterday. I had a followup appt with my surgeon right after chemo and was kind of goofy. The doc was giving me an exam and seemed to be comparing the two breasts (since I had a lumpectomy). I thought looking to see if they matched each other or he was admiring his handwork so I said 'they are looking good aren't they' and he called me a braggard! He thought I was telling him I was good looking! I couldn't help but laugh but I told him I was talking about how well he did on the surgery and how it was healing nicely. My daughter (19) was in the room and I thought she was going to fall out of her chair when he said that.

  • enjoylife
    enjoylife Member Posts: 578
    edited July 2008

    TexasMom Now that can be something you can say you enjoyed during treatment for sure. I am going to make a cake for my last chemo in August and it will have two snow ball pink ones hostess cup cakes we use to eat them when we were kids, heck I ate a few packs after my steriods last month anyway it will have a bottom on it too so it will say ta ta for now. I will be back for Herceiptor but that isnt chemo so they have a party for you with a bear singing etc friends over at the party have to bring some icecream too....

    Have a good weekend these steriods make me want to paint the house I wont but I might try and ride the mower havent done it yet this year put the guilt on the boys or men children of mine. I got tired of it looking like hay.....

  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited July 2008

    Hi my dear sisters, just remember, most of us end up with a type of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome.  Just like the vets.  No energy, no interest, no nothing.  But this does get a whole lot better.

    Hang in there, Shirlann  (9& 1/2 years post treatment) 

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