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Hi I hope someone can tell me what worked for them not feeling sick all the time. I am only one treatment under my belt. I had cytoxan first and then adriamycin and I feel like I am going to barf a lot. It seems to come over me in waves. What they have given me for it just isn't working. Well I take that back I can take a whole pill of phenergan which is the generic for promethazine but if I do it puts me out like a light. I have also tried compazine generic for prochlorper but it didn't seem to work as well. I become a zombie and can't function at all. This sure is no fun ladies. I am 51 and was stage 2 in right breast and ended up deciding on a mastectomy. My family husband and three adult children all wanted me to get both right and left breast off. But I just couldn't do that. Atleast not yet at this point. But I do pray I am not sorry that I didn't. My husband has been great about it and did say it is my body and my decision. Well if some of you found some anti-nausea meds that worked well for you what did you take?????? I am still new to this and it is all quite trying but I will get through this!!! Any info might help thanks Dana.
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Dana,
I had 6 treatments with TAC. My onc. gave me Emend which is 3 pills which you take the day of and for 2 days after. She also supplemented with Zofran. She said that if I had a problem with nausea, I should let her know because there are a lot of things she could try. I hope this helps; remember, this too shall pass.
God bless,
Chris
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Dana, I have had severe nausea with my first 4 treatments of TCH. I am down for about 6 days. I've tried Emend (which my pharmacist said is the Cadillac of anti-nausea drugs). I've tried compazine, zofram (which helps the most, but still very little) raglen, tigan, ativan and I'm still sick. For this next treatment I'm going to stay on the steriods longer. It might mean less sleep, but I'll try anything once. If you find anything that works, let me know. I'm running out of options. Thank heavens I only have 2 more to go. Good luck, Mary
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Yes, more props for Emend! It only became available in time for my last chemo treatment and it worked so much better than anything else.
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Hi,
I had 4 AC and 4 Taxotere. I never got the slight bit nauseated. I got Aloxi and Decadron prior to my chemo. I was given compazine and Marinol for nausea but I did not have to take it. Are they giving you anything prior to chemo infusion? Decadron is great. You just eat like a horse for the next couple of days.
Debbie
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I hope you are getting emend for nausea, and if not please insist that you need it. I took this drug during chemo and never even came close to throwing up....I had no appetite, but that was no big deal as far as bad symptoms go....Hope the rest of your treatments go smoothly, and you know what, it will be over quicker than you can imagine right now....Best wishes
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Another vote for Emend here. I was so sick after my first 2 AC treatments. I did Zofran and Decadron every hours faithfully and it did not work...I was vomitting all the time. My onc told me he could not have that and said to try the Emend...the last 2 AC's no vomitting at ALL!!!!!
My chemo nurse told me younger women seem to have more vomitting with the AC (I am 38)...she said they were actually doing a study to see if it is worth starting younger women on the Emend right away instead of making them suffer with SE's then prescrbing the Emend anyway.
Good Luck and hang in there....AC is tough, but you are tougher!
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And yet another vote for Emend. I've had 5 of 6 TAC so far. I take Emend with dexamethasone just before tx and for 2 days after. Like Penny, I had no appetite, but never had any nausea. They gave me granisetron as a back up, but I never needed it.
Get on your onc to keep trying meds till you find something that works.
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All I can add is that I was told to take all the anti-nausea meds my onc gave and take them all before I feel I need them. They work much better to keep it at bay that to cure it...
(((hugs)))
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ALOXI!!!
I also had some generic compazine for any break through nausea. Took it a couple of times, I think.
I also made VERY SURE to tell every person involved with my chemo that I AM AFRAID OF NAUSEA!!!!! (I also tell them that before I have general anesthesia.) It seems to work, because I've really had no nausea to speak of. (I'm now about 10 weeks out from my last chemo.)
Holler, yell, cry, whatever you have to do to get the right meds. Nausea is something they should be able to control and NOT something you should have to put up with right now.
I also took the dexamethasone and the Ativan may have helped, too.
Will be wishing you a happy tummy soon!
Sunshine
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Gosh {{Dana}} I sure wish I could remember which I had the first treatment. A first I think then the C and it was less n/v than when they did the c before a. Maybe trying that next time might help!
Also, I did the kytril and it gave me great headaches and a feeling of being drunk in so far as my equilibrium was off. I couldn't move my head very fast without getting dizzy, so they switched me to zophran. WOrked better. But with both I had to use compazine on about the 10th hour to get me through to the 12th hour when the next pill(thingy) was due. I was supposed to do teh kyrtil or zophran every 12 hours and at hour 10 had to do one comp to get to that hours. Hope that made more sense. Call them (your center) and have them call you in something different. You should not have any nausea with all the med combos available. I also had something they tried the 3rd and 4th treatments which was a drug mixed specially and had to be order overnight, but worked better. It was called C-ABH, but I can't even rememeber what they stood for anymore
THere are a lot of choices and something WILL work! Bug them!
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debbie the marinol is for your appeitate because it has a small amount of pot in it and the word thats start with a d is steriods they give you before your tx and the night before my onc gave me marinol and i refused to take it because of the pot in it i think thats right if i am wrong you can find it on the internet i hope i aint telling you wrong but if i am please forgive me are the marniol you have little brown pills god bless deb from ky
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DANA,
Ask your oncologist for zofran (ondansetron). It's been used for chemo related nausea/vomiting for decades and it works great for almost everyone and won't make you sleepy. It, along with kytril, dramatically changed the tolerance of chemotherapy when they were first introduced way back when. It's now off patent, so it's very inexpensive and is more recently also available in a form that dissolves under the tongue - which makes it a good choice for someone who is actively nauseated or vomiting.
Emend is not indicated for treating nausea and vomiting that you already have, and since it's still on patent, it's extremely expensive. It's intended use is only to prevent N/V from starting in the first place. Once it starts, you have to use something else to treat it. In my experience as an oncology nurse, things like phenergan and compazine really don't offer most people all that much relief in treating chemo related N/V.
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when I was going thru' the a/c tx's I was very sick...severe n/v so much I had to be hospitalized during the 2nd/3rd tx's. I did emend/decadron and that helped some but it seemed as tho' the 4th or 5th day after tx I would be back to being soooo sick. tried zofran but developed adverse reaction to it. tried phenergan and many other drugs also. finally in the hospital they gave me a combo of reglan/ativan and finally some relief! wasn't a cure-all but it was so much better! now I am on taxol/herceptin tx's and the nausea is not nearly as severe but I still take regan every couple of days. I also take prilosec too for those acidy days.
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Hi
I am on A/C. My nausea meds are: Compazine, Decadron, Emends, and Ativan. I have had nausea but not enough to throw up just a foreign feeling in my stomach. All the drugs affect your stomach so it is better to eat easy to digest things like soup or toast but try to keep protein in there also. I find it takes a week for me to get my stomach back after the A/C and meds and neulasta. Don't try to eat regular meals for that week. Eat snacks as you feel hungry like a banana. Your appetite will come back once the drugs wear off. Don't do dairy doing drug week or pasta so you will not have diahera or constipation. Try to go with the flow and distract yourself with other things. W7
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I take 3 pills one the day of treatment one the day after and one the day after that it helps me allot and then they give me steriods that might be helping Emends is the biggy I completly agree with wondering7 I didnt realize that until my 2nd treatment was over and I had diahara badly so I will stick to the BRAT diet next treatment to and yes I go with the flow mostly on the couch that is why I have my treatments on Thursdays so I have the weekend off work and then about the 5th day I am back to me which I am so greatful for. Good luck its not easy at all just let everyone help you they feel better when they can help..
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Hi there--
I have had one tx of TC so far (no A), and took Compazine every 6 hrs. for 2 days afterwards. No nausea at all, but found myself feeling very depressed and disconnected somehow. I'm wondering if I can just not take it unless I feel bad....they give me Aloxi prior to each infusion. I also have a scrip for Zofran, so I will try that next time--hopefully it doesn't make you feel like you're underwater in a murky swamp..... Phenergan is great when it's time to sleep!
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Hi ladies-
I've had 3 treatments of AC so far and each time I've tried a diff. anti-nausea. The IV meds are same (Aloxi/Decodron), but after the first tx I took Zofran & Compazine like clock work, had bad nausea & vomiting, the second tx I took Amend & Zofran and I still had bad nausea but no vomiting and this last time (#3) I tried Avtivan & Compazine and vomited a lot...so wow..the last tx coming up next week I'm thinking I go back to Amend???? My onco. said that some people just have a sensitive stomach and no matter the drug I'm still going to feel the nausea. bummer!!
Here's to calm stomachs going forward ****
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I was FEC and then Docetaxol and I took my nausea medications the day before chemo and for four days after because I'm phobic about vomiting I can honestly say I had no problems with nausea, maybe a touch of queasiness but I think it was more nerves about nausea than actual nausea the medication my doc ordered was Prochlorazine I think it's an oldy but goody. Good luck I hope that something works for you.
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You've gotten some great advise here. My 2 cents is that for me generic drugs were a no go as i was very sensitive and each generic was formulated slightly differently which made a BIG difference for me. Secondly, I NEVER went off my anti-nausea meds no matter how I felt during my AC+ treatments. I relaxed during my Taxotere but I kept ahead of the nausea including pre-tx med. Talk to your doc ASAP!
Youll get throught this!!
Ellie
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Hi-I also had the Emend-one the day of treatment and for 2 days after-Thank God for health insurance, because that and the Zofran that I had prescribed, but never had to use, are astonomically priced. I was also prescribed compazine, in both oral and suppository form, but the Emend worked so well, I only had to use a compazine supp once.
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Could they try to give you the Adriamycin first? I Know when the nurse switched mine (had 2 different nurses for the first 2 infusions), and gave me C before A, I had a lot more n/v. Also, kytril and zophran did help, but the headaches with Kytril, i needed motrin to bring them down to tolerable. I had them on 12 hour apart for the 2-3 days after chemo, then would use compazine or the other stuff for the last hour or two before I was due for the next.
And yes, decadron (steriod) and aloxi (anti-n/v) were used before each infusion.
Hope you are doing better.
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Hi there,
I took Kytril in conjunction with Emend. It worked well. I had the same chemo you did. I felt faintly off for about 1 -1.5 days and could only eat toast or dry cheerios, but never got really nauseous or threw up.
Try every combo until you find the one that works for you. Don't worry about bugging your onc or the nurses. They want to help you.
Hang in there,
Annie
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There are some great replies here about the nausea, I just wanted to comment on the uni vs. bilateral mastectomy....You can always decide to have another mastectomy (of the unaffected breast) later. I believe that many if not most insurances will pay for it, at least mine did. A single mast. is traumatic enough, I just couldn't een think about having both breasts "done" after being diagnosed. I took a year to think about it after the first surgery, and then when I was sure I was making the right decision, had the second mast. It was much easier in that I knew what to expect and was much less nervous. So don't worry about the decision, get through treatment, and in the meantime you can think about what to do. Best of luck,
Kerry
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Kerry, I have had 5 out of 6 treatments. The nausea for me was horrible. I never threw up, but I couldn't eat, couldn't function, had nausea and dizziness and awful diarrhea. Each treatment we tried something different. I've had emend, compazine, tigan, reglan, kytril, ativan, and zofran. Zofran was the only thing that helped a little. I was so bad I had scheduled IV's with my last 3. On the sickest day I had which was day 8 after treatment #4 the doctor came into the room and told the nurse to also give me a bag of decadron. I had no idea why, but by that evening I was 90% better. We discussed it before treatment #5 and he had me try taking the normal dose of steriods, tapering off to one pill a day which I continued to take through day 10. It made all the difference in the world. On the week that I could hardly get out of bed and left the house only for IV's, I was able to go to lunch, get groceries and be fairly normal. I still had a little nausea but it was tolerable. The extra decadron did not keep me from sleeping and I okayed it with 2 different pharmacist to make sure it wouldn't be hard on my system.
My last treatment is next week and for the first time I'm not panicing. I am so pleased we finally found something that workds for me. Good luck, hope you also can find the magical cure. Mary
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I cannot remember the antinausea drugs I had offered to me (7 years ago), but my oncologist did give me two different kinds of antinausea which I kept refilling (mostly one only because it just plain worked better). My chemo treatment was with high dose CMF (which had to be slightly reduced during 2nd round of treatment for reasons I wont go into right now). One thing I remember is if I left home without antinausea medication I panicked because I too had nausea which would come in waves. For me it was like being car sick or on an amusement park ride that just spinned and spinned. As long as I was able to take my antinausea medication at first signs of wave, I was ok, and it was controllable. If you have nausea that is not being controlled by your current antinausea medication, you should speak to your oncologist about this. There is no reason you should not be as comfortable as possible while going through your chemo treatment.
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