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  • susansblues
    susansblues Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2008

    Hi Ladies -

    I actually started tx in April, 4 dd tx of AC, which I just finished yesterday. But I'm not finished; I'll be getting Taxol + Herceptin, 12 wkly tx starting June 10th. That's assuming everything's still ok, heart-wise, based on my Muga (6/2).  So I thought I'd join you gals over on this thread, seeing as I'll be getting tx for some time to come. (After the 12 wkly tx, I'll be finished with the Taxol, but I'll continue getting Herceptin every 3 wks for about another 9 months or so.)

  • flyrzfan
    flyrzfan Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2008

    hi all...I'm sorry to see so many class mates for June, but so glad to have you all with me on this journey! I will be getting my port installed on June 3rd and starting Chemo on June 5th. **texasmom** yes, I am doing herceptin also -when you are HER2+ you don't really have a choice -scary SE and all. I will be doing AC x4, taxol and herceptin weekly x12, then herceptin alone x40. Yum, can't wait.

    Otter - you're so good to us all, thanks for stopping in here to give us your words of wisdom, you rock!

    Kiya - read on gf, you will see you are not alone in your feelings...LOTS of us got a dose of reality when we went to the 1st oncono visit!

    Best of luck to anyone starting today or tomorrow - we'll all get through this together ladies...thanks for your input so far!

    bonnie 

  • KKing
    KKing Member Posts: 425
    edited May 2008

    Kiya... hope things go okay for you.   Glad things are alright Dawn.   So, Susan why is your treatment continuing??  

    I guess we are all gearing up for next week... I start June 4th.  Waiting for results of my lymph node surgery from last week and results from all the scans they have done..  Waiting is so hard.  Going to pick a wig on Saturday. 

    Keeping good thoughts for everyone.

    Karen

  • Vinogal
    Vinogal Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2008

    Susan and Bonnie.....seems like you ladies have similar.....long.......tx's.......I don't know what mine will be yet.  I am also er+pr-......but HER2 results havent come back.......so I guess everyone HER2+ gets Herceptin?......is that right?......still haven't gotten the call from the onco.....supposed to be today.......so.....still waiting.......

    Chin up!

    Jax

  • hunkydory
    hunkydory Member Posts: 1,241
    edited May 2011

    Went to my first onco appt today. Her2 test (something to do with fishing) hasnt come back.  Plus going for muga scan monday and to meet with rad dr.  Current stage IIIc.  Lots of Positive nodes.  Hopefully doesnt turn into stage IV after scans.  Onc is opting for (TAC) x 6 plus radiation but wont start treatment until mastectomy is healed, aproximately toward the end of June.  My gawd...I am ready for the physc ward and Nurse Ratched(sp?).  Thank god for a wonderful husband and friends.  Here's hoping to you all that your day was a smidge better, as good as that can be in this chapter of girl scouts! 

  • ranD
    ranD Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2008

    Hey guys... first tx today at 2....will check in later tonight since I won;t be home until 7ish....

    randie

  • susansblues
    susansblues Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2008

    Hunkydory - The FISH test is the more conclusive test for the HER-2 status. (The other is some dye or stain, which I believe is quicker but may be less reliable.)

    KKing - My tx continues because I started with 4 dd of AC, which I just finished, & now I move on to 12 wkly tx of Taxol + Herceptin. Then Herceptin continues til I've been on it for a year, which is standard for anyone who's HER2+.

    Bonnie - You're on the exact treatment plan that I am, just a couple of months or so behind. I just had my 4th & final AC tx on Tuesday & I'm scheduled to start Taxol + Herceptin on June 10th, for 12 wkly tx.  I'm going for a Muga scan on June 2nd (this coming Monday) to make sure my heart is still OK for the Herceptin, since both Adriamycin & Herceptin can damage the heart muscle. (I'll be going for periodic Muga scans while I'm on the Herceptin, too.)  AC can be very rough on some people, but I was very fortunate with minimal SE's. I've had no nausea, & other than the Emend & Decadron (plus the Aloxi they put in my IV on tx day), I've rarely taken any other anti-nausea meds. My digestive system has been pretty cooperative in other ways, too (i.e., minimal constipation or diarrhea), & my appetite has been pretty decent although my sense of taste is often dull or just "off". Hopefully you'll sail through this as smoothly as I have!

  • robyn46
    robyn46 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    I'm starting next week. AC for 4 rounds then Taxol.  I'm scared to death about the side effects. 

  • robyn46
    robyn46 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Susan, how did you make out with your 4 dd of AC?  I start 6/5 and am so scared about feeling debilitated. I plan to continue working ft.  I also workout regularly (big part of my life) and am so hoping I can keep some semblance of my routine.  

  • Vinogal
    Vinogal Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2008

    Got the call from the Onco this morning......first appt. for consultation they had available was June 23rd.......this sounds so far away to me........I am first on their cancellation list.....as thye go by age and apparently I am the youngest person waiting to be seen......so hopefully I will get in sooner than that.........how soon after everyone's surgery and post op was your meeting with the oncologist?.......any imput would be appreciated......I am anxious to get this show on the road.....as I still need to havee additional surgery and radiation........would like to be done before christmas.....this horrible road seems to be getting longer and longer.....I find myself almost hoping HER2 comes back negative just so I can cut down on treatment time.......not really......but almost......good luck to all with their upcoming treatments....

    Jax

  • susansblues
    susansblues Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2008

    Robyn46 - I was terrified about starting chemo, but I have to say that the anticipation was way worse than the reality. Keep in mind that everyone's experience is different, but for me, AC has really not been much of a problem. I can honestly say that I've had no nausea, only occasional queasiness which was easily remedied. My biggest problem has been low energy/fatigue. I had 4 dose dense tx's (2 wks apart), so I didn't have the benefit of that 3rd week between tx's that some people have, which is their best week of each cycle. My meds have included Emend (taken 1 hr before tx, then again on days 2 & 3 of each cycle); Decadron (dexamethasone - a steroid) given in my IV on tx day, then by tablet at home on days 2-4; Aloxi given in my IV on tx day; Compazine tablets (anti-nausea) to be taken as needed (I only take occasionally - still on original Rx, haven't needed to refill); Ativan tablets (anti-nausea, anti-pain, anti-anxiety) to be taken as needed (I only took one the night of my 1st tx- made me feel heavily drugged for the next day & 1/2, and haven't taken it since - They also gave me Ativan by IV the day of my 1st tx, I asked *not* to have it on my subsequent tx days & didn't need it.)  I also usually take a Pepcid Complete most mornings, although I've been taking it less regularly lately & not missing it. I give myself Neupogen injections on days 3 thru 10 of each AC cycle. Neupogen can cause bone pain, but I've been lucky there, too. I've had bone pain on only 2 different days, & each time it was mild & easily managed with Extra-Strength Tylenol or Aleve. I'm a big wuss & didn't think I'd be able to give myself injections, but that's turned out to be easy, too. I get the pre-filled syringes, so there's no measuring, & no air bubbles to worry about. The needles are pretty short & very thin, & haven't bothered me despite how squeamish I usually am. And the Neupogen has done its job keeping my white blood cell counts up, so I've been able to stay on schedule with my tx's. One time, my mid-cycle labs showed by WBC counts were a bit low, but by the next tx day, they had rebounded spectacularly.  I've tended to feel pretty good for the first several days of each cycle, then sort of crashing for a few days (more like 4-5 days during cycle 3, too soon to say for cycle 4), then rebounding again for the rest of the cycle. Just pay attention to what your body is telling you, and be prepared to do less & rest more. Eat smaller portions, possibly more often, but remember to eat, even if the food doesn't taste as good! And suck on ice chips while you're getting the Adriamycin drip; it'll help prevent mouth sores.  As far as hair loss, I had my hair cut moderately short (but still pretty full & "normal looking") a week after my 1st surgery mostly because it was easier to manage. Then I got it cut really short a couple of days after my first tx. My scalp started feeling funny towards the end of cycle 1, & started falling out right after my 2nd tx. Within a few days, I could barely glide my hand over my head without getting fistfuls of hair, so on day 7 of cycle 2, I had my daughter buzz my scalp (with one of those barber buzzer thingies) as close as she could get it, & I've been wearing hats ever since. (I have a wig but haven't worn it yet, & doubt I'll wear it much.) We went out for brunch right after she buzzed me, & at first I was really self-conscious, but then I realized that not only wasn't anyone staring at me, they weren't even giving me a second glance. Anyway, I'm rambling here, so I'm going to stop now, but if you'd like to, you can PM me.

    Good luck with you tx's. Hope it goes as smoothly for you as it has for me so far!

  • susansblues
    susansblues Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2008

    Scaredmomof2 - My appts happened a bit differently from yours. After my biopsy, I met with my surgeon in his office to discuss the results & various options, & he suggested I meet with an oncologist before surgery. So I got an appt with the onc he recommended, for 12 days later. When I was making the appt with the onc's office, they suggested that I also see a radiation onc (& they recommended one), so I lucked out & got an appt with the rad onc for the same day as the onc. Met with both of them (& liked both, fortunately); they even spoke with each other between my 2 appts! Then they spoke with each other & with my surgeon the next day, left me messages saying they were on board that I should have surgery first, so I spoke with my surgeon the day after that, & I had my 1st surgery 1 week after that (approx a month after biopsy). Wound up needing a 2nd surgery, which was 3 wks after 1st surgery. Met with the onc again (and also had chemo class with the onc's nurse practioner) between the 2 surgeries, & started chemo 11 days after my 2nd surgery. (Which reminds me: I need to call my rad onc to let her know where I am in the process, since it looks like I'll be ready to start radiation in September.) One thing that I like about all 3 of my doc's is that they presented me with options, pros & cons of the different options, & why they preferred the treatment they're recommending, but still allowing me a voice in the process. After all, there are different treatments available, & they all have different implications, & it's *our bodies* that are being affected, so we should have a voice in the process!

    Good luck with your appts & your journey!

  • kaejon
    kaejon Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2008

    i'm starting sometime in june...first i'm having a port implanted on the 6th...soon after the chemo will start...once every 2wk for 2 months then every week for 3 months...then 7weeks of radiation...i'm scared spitless but ...i've 3 boys that i'm trying to tell just enough but not too much...i don't want them too scared...good luck with your chemo..let me know how it goes.

  • VBG
    VBG Member Posts: 227
    edited May 2008

    Hi All,

    Well it look like I am joining the June "club".  First treatment is June 11.  To be honest I was not expecting to be in the club but when my oncotyping score came back my onc recommended that I now do chemo.  Since Tamox did not work to block my recurrence of BC they are concerned that AIs along are not enough of an

    "insurance policy".  I have been crying a lot and feeling overwhelmed since this was not the news that I was expecting.  After my bilat, recon, oopherectomy I thought I was almost done!  Well I guess with BC we are never really done!  I will now start looking for wigs, hats, ect and hope that when my hair does grow back it is still the same!

    My thoughts and prayers are with you all!  I hope that with the support of many this burden will be lessened!

    Valerie

  • Jo-Anne
    Jo-Anne Member Posts: 41
    edited May 2008

    Hi all,

    I was diagnosed May 5th - had lumpectomy and lymphnode dissection May 20th. I've had a drain in since surgery and I'm going to give it a name - soonSmile.

    I saw my surgeon today and need to go back in to remove more healthy margin due to the fact that the cancer was only 0.1 mm from the edge of the margin in two places. in one place he can do this, however the other place is the posterior or chest wall and surgeon said he took all he could in that area during the initial surgery.

    Tomorrow I am calling the medical oncologist to set up an initial consult with her, hopefully I'll start chemo soon, I'm hoping for June maybe late June, but I can keep up with all of you who are starting really soon.

    I wish everyone the best with their treatment.

    Jo-Anne

  • liz19
    liz19 Member Posts: 97
    edited May 2008

    hey, ladies:

    i am also starting chemo in june,i have to get my port put in first,

    then my heart scan, after blood work chemo will start around 12th or 13th,of june, please ladies pray for me and you all are in my prayers

    too!!!! keep in touch i am on chatroom at nights sometime!!

                                                            take care, liz19

  • Bonnie02
    Bonnie02 Member Posts: 193
    edited May 2008

    Hi everyone,

    Started my chemo today and everything seemed to go okay except a terrible headache that nothing is touching. I am on here at 1 AM because I can not sleep. maybe I am just worked up over this I hoped that is the reason for not sleeping.

    Bonnie

  • Vinogal
    Vinogal Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2008

    Hey Bonnie......hope you were able to get some sleep......what are you getting?......and how long did it take to get?.....post later and let us know how things are going for you......wishing you well and hoping to learn from all those that go before me.

    Good thoughts

    Jax

  • flyrzfan
    flyrzfan Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2008

    bonnie02 - i hope u went back to sleep! I'm sorry about headache but glad u have first one overwith!

    susan - nicely done on the explanations to robyn and jax! I'm glad to hear you fared so well - i am hoping i have my problems all out of the way with the surgery phase (lots of complications only i could come up with) and will sail through chemo phase!

    valerie, jo-anne and kaejon ~ welcome, sorry u have to be in the club but glad u found this website!

    to everyone waiting...i hope you get your answers today!

    best wishes to everyone in the june club!

  • susansblues
    susansblues Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2008

    Bonnie - Are you on Decadron (dexamethasone - steroids)? If so, that could be keeping you up at night. It didn't keep me up (rarely does anything keep me up, though!), but you might try taking 1 or 2 Tylenol PM, with your doc's ok, before bed. Either that or an Ativan tablet if you have those. I had a headache after my first tx, which the Tylenol (Extra Strength &/or PM) helped. A good friend of mine (who happens to be an oncology nurse!) told me that I might need to have the Cytoxan drip at a slower rate. They'd done it at an hour, supposedly, but I think it actually took only 45 minutes. So the next time I asked to make sure it was a full-hour drip. The onc nurse at my onc's office said that Aloxi (given in the IV on my AC tx days) sometimes causes headaches, too. I also had Ativan in the IV on my first AC tx day, but I felt really drugged from it, didn't need it for anti-nausea or anti-anxiety purposes, & did without it during subsequent tx's. I didn't get that headache after AC tx's # 2, 3, or 4, so whatever the cause was, I can't be sure!

  • flyrzfan
    flyrzfan Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2008

    hmmmm, thank u for that heads up susan! i have not been sleeping well either but will discuss tylenol pm w/dr on monday at appointment! maybe insomnia is just "bonnie" thing?

  • KKing
    KKing Member Posts: 425
    edited May 2008

    Thanks Susan, the way you explained your experience it really helps.  I start June 4th..I am getting FEC..maybe that is the chemo choice here in Ontario. 

    I can't believe how many of us there are now in June.  Thinking of you all

    Karen.

  • Bonnie02
    Bonnie02 Member Posts: 193
    edited May 2008

    Jax

    I am taking Cytoxan and Doxorubicin in the vein and by pills I am taking Decadrone and Zofran. The medication all total took just over 1 hour.

    Susan as you can see the medication I am taking probably covers all my problems such a not sleeping and the headaches. One of them I believe is a steroid and I know that can keep you up and going. It is just about 9am and still no sleep and I am not tired think I will get some work done around here before it completely wears off.

    Wishing you all well and hope everything is good or all of you, this is such a helpful sight.

    Bonnie

  • Vinogal
    Vinogal Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2008

    I think it's the decadrone that is the steroid......it is my understanding......correct me if I'm wrong......but most steroids end in the letters one.......wow imagine how much stuff we could all get done if we didn't sleep but weren't tired......lol......You do need your sleep to bounce back......and be ready for your next treatment.....so be sure and lay down......when you finally do feel tired.....no matter what the time...

    Jax

  • kaejon
    kaejon Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2008

    hello everyone. sorry to hear about the sleeplessness and headaches, i hpoe something can be done for them.  i just found out that my port surgery was moved to the 12th because of all the additional tests they want done. so now my chemo date has been moved to the 23rd. all this waiting is really nerve racking.  they've also told me that i cant go back to work for at least 2 months, depending on how the chemo goes, if then.  because i work in a resturant they say i might not be able to return until i'm done. that's another woory that i really don't need on top of everything else. has anyone else been forced to not work? how do you deal?

  • robyn46
    robyn46 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Susan, thank you for being so descriptive.  The fear of the unkown has been the worst for me. And I need to get some sleep.  Awake from midnight to 4am last night thinking all the worst.   I'm hearing Ambien is most often prescribed?  Does anyone feel dopey in the morning from it?  I have a hard time with Tylenol PM so am concerned prescription sleep aid would be worse.

  • susansblues
    susansblues Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2008

    Bonnie - Decadron is a steroid which helps fight nausea; Zofran is also anti-nausea. I'm not sure that either one will help with headaches, though. But the Decadron is the likely culprit for keeping you awake, and both of them can cause constipation.

    Kaeion - Is it your onc saying you can't go back to work for at least 2 months, or your workplace? If it's your workplace, I'd suggest getting a letter from your onc. But if it's your onc, I have no suggestions other than to just ask, "why not?"  Good luck!

    Robyn - Anxiety's the worst, in my opinion. I have no experience with Ambien or other prescription sleep meds, other than taking an Ativan tablet that one time, & it wiped me out & left me feeling drugged for the next day & 1/2. (Ativan is anti-pain, anti-nausea, and anti-anxiety.) Hopefully once you get a little further into your treatments, your anxiety will lessen & then you won't be worrying & keeping yourself up so much. Good luck, & try to relax!

  • Bonnie02
    Bonnie02 Member Posts: 193
    edited May 2008

    Well my oncologist called this afternoon and I guess most of my chemo is going to be changed due to the a heart test I had on Wednesday. He said that the heart is not pumping properly it is to slow and he thinks at some time I may have had a small heart attack, or very high blook preasure. And if you would have asked me a few months ago I would have said I was really healthy. This year has been full of surprises and not good ones at that. The thing that bothers me is that I was her2 positive and that was why they were going to give me Herceptine but now he said that I can not have it.  Hopefully this does not cause a problem. He said that the cancer was successfully taken out of the breast so he didn't think that was a problem but it was also in the lymph nodes and that worries me.  Good thing I can come on here and release all my anxietys at least I think I am LOL.

    Bonnie

  • Vinogal
    Vinogal Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2008

    Hey Susan......I also meant to thank you for being so detailed in your description of how everything went......I have been having problems with this site the last few days.....losing posts and double posting......just seems to be running slow......anybody else experiencing this........anyhow......sounds like you have had  a very positive experience goes as far as your doctors are concerned.....I am from a small beach community and my pcp reffered me to a local surgeon for my treatment......this just didn;t feel right to me.....so I traveled to Toronto for my surgery to a surgeon that was recommended by my plastic surgeon.....I wanted to do chemo closer to home.....and they have a policy that they need all path reports before they will see patients from out of town surgeons......I am still very happy with my decision to seek surgery from my doc......but I do wish this next step was moving along quicker.

    Anyways......happy for a busy weekend........

    Jax

  • Jo-Anne
    Jo-Anne Member Posts: 41
    edited May 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    So good to read everyone's experiences, concerns, and the sharing of side effects from the different 'cocktails'.

    I did indeed call the medical oncologists office today, I have a consult on June 12th, so hopefully will have a start date. Not that I'm looking forward to this, but looking to the end of it. Along with all of you.

    Wishing you all a lovely weekend.

    Jo-Anne

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