Gary Null, and juicing

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  • thomcat
    thomcat Member Posts: 356
    edited February 2008

    Alaina13 - thanks for the tip on the banana bread. 

    I'm really glad there's been some recent interest on this thread.  Perhaps we can share some recipes.  I've got company visiting so I haven't been making anything healthy lately.   I'm headed to the health food store tomorrow to pick up some stuff for smoothies.

    Cathy

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2008

    After what I read about white button mushrooms on another thread, I think we should make them a must in every concoction we make up for ourselves.  I'll go look for that paper and post it.

    Thanks to Calico for this bit of good news:

    http://www.cityofhope.org/Media/ReleasesMedSci/ChenMushroom121506MS.htm

    I knew they were good, but I didn't know they were this good.

    "The idea of exploring foods for cancer prevention is very important, because prevention is much better than treating a disease," Chen said. "You don't need a strong effect to cause cancer prevention. Eating 100 grams [about 3.5 ounces] or even less of mushrooms per day could have an effect on preventing new breast cancers."

  • paige-allyson
    paige-allyson Member Posts: 781
    edited February 2008

    Great thread, I have to go back and read the earlier posts. My current favorite juice blend is kale, broccoli, carrot, apple, it comes out a beautiful green and tastes great- the apple is a critical ingredient. We have a Samson juicer that leaves some of the fiber.

    Allyson

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2008

    Just an FYI for us juicers:  This is the list of foods when eaten raw can inhibit us from absorbing iodine:

    Goiter also can be caused by eating too much of certain foods that contain the antithyroid substance goitrogen. Dietary iodine cannot counteract the effect of goitrogen. Foods rich in goitrogen include the following:

    • Broccoli
    • Brussels sprouts
    • Cabbage
    • Cauliflower
    • Kale
    • Kohlrabi
    • Mustard
    • Peaches
    • Peanuts
    • Radishes
    • Rutabagas
    • Soybeans
    • Spinach
    • Strawberries
    • Turnips 

    Which is pretty much my entire list of juicing vegetables with the exception of a few. 

  • paige-allyson
    paige-allyson Member Posts: 781
    edited February 2008

    Rosemary- Hmmm. I am having my thyroid "knocked back" with radioactive iodine probably this spring. Don't know if I need to figure this in to my juicing habits or not. I have had subclinical hyperthyroidism for years.

  • angie27
    angie27 Member Posts: 863
    edited February 2008

    Hi, I can tell you that Juicing is the best thing you can do for your health in a natural way, I wrote about this before"Juicing for life" look it up. there you will find the recipe for the anti-cancerous juice, I make it every day and I enjoy it very much.  Juicing has great benefits, specially for us.

    Drink to your health

    Angie

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited February 2008

    Rosemary,

    How do we know how much is too much (of the foods containing goitrogen)???

    One or two juice drinks a day, or several servings a day of the foods?

    I have heard that we cannot assimilate the iron from raw spinach, only cooked. Don't know if it's true, but my source is generally reliable...

    Anne

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2008

    I just read a write-up on this problem.  Basically it said the same thing as we're all thinking, don't give up on these vegetables, but I'd watch for changes in yourselves if you usually eat from that group.  I can't imagine giving up juiced spinach.   It seems to be a problem with them being raw not as much with them cooked.  I guess this was Mother Natures way of making sure we didn't overdo iodine. There's plenty of other veggies not on the list that have plenty on vitamins and such.

    Yes, I read the same thing Anne about spinach needing to be slightly cooked to release something or other.   

    http://www.whfoods.org/  has the write-up on Goitrogens food. He's saying it's not a problem if you don't already have a thyroid condition.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited May 2008

    Today when I juiced some carrots I added some cucumber for the first time.  I liked it so much I just had to bump up this thread and let y'all know.  Today it was proably 70% carrot 30% cucumber.  Tomorrow I'll try more cucumber.  I keep reading about the importance of having green in our drinks for the chlorophyll factor and how it increases oxygen levels in our systems.  Some people theorize that lack of oxygen is the mechanism that triggers cancer cells into mass production.  So many theories, and where is the truth.  I haven't been so happy about some of the green things I've run through the juicer, like cabbage.  Cucumbers, however, I think will be most welcome in my kitchen from now on.  

    I've also started using stevia instead of sugar for sweetining beverages.  I made strawberry lemonade from scratch this weekend using stevia instead of sugar.  It was sooo good!  I sure spend a lot of time in the kitchen, though, as I change my food choices.   

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited May 2008

    Celery is really good juiced, too. As is flat leaf parsley and kale.

    I get conflicted about juicing. I love getting the vitamins, yet I know I need the fiber, and drinking some types of juices (high-glycemic value fruits and veggies) can mess with your blood sugar--which we don't need.

    So, I try to eat whole foods, butsometimes I just gotta have the juice.

    My favorite still is the green lemonade that someone (sorry I can't remember who!) posted--lemon, greens, ginger, apple. Man, that's great!

    Anne

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited May 2008

    Yes, I've added parsley to the mix also and liked it.  I've combined celery with carrot juice for a long time and like that also.  Haven't tried kale yet.

    My problem now is the little piece of plastic that broke off the housing.  I tried elmer's and it didn't hold and now I know what that extra racket in the disposal was yesterday.  It's just a little piece that keeps the chute pointing straight up and down.   

    That green lemonade sounds interesting.  Except, what's in my memory that tells me fruits and veggies should be consumed separately, aside from apples?   

    How much ginger do you suggest adding to one serving of juice? 

  • jm86
    jm86 Member Posts: 28
    edited May 2008

    Can you take one more comment about juicing?

    I bought the Norwalk juicer (2nd hand).  It cost me $1300 Cdn.  It's a marvelous juicer and, if you aren't careful with the pusher, it will spew things upward.  It doesn't take much to learn how to use it neatly.  The juice is fantastic.

    I thought I might go on the Gerson therapy diet and that's why I got it.  However, I'm on herceptin and navelbine and juicing carrot and apple juice in the morning and green juice (lettuce, swiss chard, cabbage, beet tops and green apple) two other times.  The Gerson diet is very stringent and calls for 13 juices a day but also says you have to detoxify the liver with coffee enema because you can overload the liver with too much of the juice.  So, one has to be careful about how much juice (fiber free nutrition) is taken in.

    But back to the juicer...this Norwalk juicer is the best!

  • jm86
    jm86 Member Posts: 28
    edited May 2008

    Can you take one more comment about juicing?

    I bought the Norwalk juicer (2nd hand).  It cost me $1300 Cdn.  It's a marvelous juicer and, if you aren't careful with the pusher, it will spew things upward.  It doesn't take much to learn how to use it neatly.  The juice is fantastic.

    I thought I might go on the Gerson therapy diet and that's why I got it.  However, I'm on herceptin and navelbine and juicing carrot and apple juice in the morning and green juice (lettuce, swiss chard, cabbage, beet tops and green apple) two other times.  The Gerson diet is very stringent and calls for 13 juices a day but also says you have to detoxify the liver with coffee enema because you can overload the liver with too much of the juice.  So, one has to be careful about how much juice (fiber free nutrition) is taken in.

    But back to the juicer...this Norwalk juicer is the best!

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited May 2008

    Okay, I've got to ask--how does a coffee enema detox the liver? An enema removes the stool from the descending colon. How does that do anything for the liver? The colon is a thick membrane--I don't see caffeine doing anything but causing fluid to be pulled into the colon, perhaps. The volume of the fluid causes the bowel to contract and expel stool.

    althea, I usually use a half-inch to inch long piece of ginger, and I peel it, though I'm pretty sure I don't need to with my juicer (Jack LaLanne.) I didn't know about keeping fruits and veggies apart. Why is that?

    Anne

  • jm86
    jm86 Member Posts: 28
    edited May 2008

    I will go to the original source and read up on this later.  Right now, what I remember is that the coffee (special recipe) is taken up by blood vessels that lead directly to the liver and stimulate the liver (I think that it dilates the blood vessels)....feel somewhat foolish trying to answer this without being clear but when I read it originally it made sense.  I check my literature and respond tomorrow.  Jackie

  • beenthere
    beenthere Member Posts: 16
    edited June 2008

    I just use organic powders of 3 juices everyday: Carrots, Beets, and Barley . Its 15 servings worth, takes 3 minutes to mix and drink, and very reasonable price. I get it from a company called Aim. I also take Fiberblend and would recommend reading PH and health booklet for dietary choices and monitoring.

  • beenthere
    beenthere Member Posts: 16
    edited June 2008

    I just use organic powders of 3 juices everyday: Carrots, Beets, and Barley . Its 15 servings worth, takes 3 minutes to mix and drink, and very reasonable price. I get it from a company called Aim. I also take Fiberblend and would recommend reading PH and health booklet for dietary choices and monitoring. 

  • beenthere
    beenthere Member Posts: 16
    edited June 2008

    I just use organic powders of 3 juices everyday: Carrots, Beets, and Barley . Its 15 servings worth, takes 3 minutes to mix and drink, and very reasonable price. I get it from a company called Aim. I also take Fiberblend and would recommend reading PH and health booklet for dietary choices and monitoring.  

  • beenthere
    beenthere Member Posts: 16
    edited June 2008

    I just use organic powders of 3 juices everyday: Carrots, Beets, and Barley . Its 15 servings worth, takes 3 minutes to mix and drink, and very reasonable price. I get it from a company called Aim. I also take Fiberblend and would recommend reading PH and health booklet for dietary choices and monitoring.   Been There 

  • apium
    apium Member Posts: 70
    edited June 2008

    I use the Jack Lalanne juicer and I like it.  I also use the Vita Mix.  This is what I do.  I buy a bunch of red kale, a can of pineapple juice, 2 lemons, and a bunch of celery.  I put the pineapple juice in the Vita Mix, put in the kale and the white part of 2 lemons (natural quercitin).  Blend it up real good.  I then juice the celery with my Lalanne juicer.  I then combine the pineapple/kale/lemon mix with the celery.  When I drink it, I add 1 tsp of chorella.  Celery is suppose to turn on the cancer suicide gene.  I like the taste of this concotion.  I dilute it if its too sweet. 

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited December 2008

    I have ben juicing for 6 months or so and love it.  Use the Jack LaLane I got yrs ago as a gift. I juice 1-2 times a day, usally 4 cups at a time.  Don't have any particular recipies, just whatever I have in the house- carrots, celery, green/red/orange/yelow peppers, jalepeno peppers, lettuce of any kind, kale, cucumbers, radishes, beets, ginger, lemon, lime (they are the only fruit I use), whatever.  Some days I will add in some of the pulp into the juice and I am experimenting with other ways to use the pulp--soup, muffins etc.  Sort of depends on the fruit/veggies used.

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