Bone pain in second week with Neulasta?

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Bone pain in second week with Neulasta?
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  • formygirls
    formygirls Member Posts: 916
    edited April 2008

    Does anyone have bone pain in the seond week after the shot? I do dose dens AC and had my second tx last Tuesday and the shot on Wednesday. All of last week, I was just tired but nothing else. Tuesday I spiked a low grade fever that went away in a day but since then my bones are hurting real bad. It is in my lower back and legs. Everone else only talks of bone pain right after they get the shot.

  • Panchoandlefty
    Panchoandlefty Member Posts: 181
    edited April 2008

    I am in the same place w/ the same meds. I haven't has problems w/ Neulsata, but I remember the nurse saying that people often complained about the bone pain from Neulasta after the 2nd shot.



    I know my onc starts people on Tylonol, but will write for stronger stuff if the pain keeps going.



    stephanie

  • TenderIsOurMight
    TenderIsOurMight Member Posts: 4,493
    edited April 2008



    Bone pain is very common during white count booster therapy, Neupogen or Neulasta. I had it also.



    Glad to here your fever has resolved, formygirls. Maybe a suggestion to talk with your doctor about which pain meds to use for the pain in light of this history. Some can hide (mask) a fever, and it's important to know when you're having one when on chemotherapy.



    All the best,

    Tender

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited April 2008

    I did dose dense a/c, monday treatment....tuesday shot.....bone pain usually started on monday or tuesday.  I had lab drawn on monday (week after) and my wbc was always in the toilet.  It usually takes a week for it to drop, the shot starts working after it drops.

    Teresa

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited April 2008

    To clarify what I said....my bone pain started the next week.  Not right after the shot.  The ache comes from the wbc being produced so it shouldn't happen until you are low.  My aches were really not that bad at all.

  • Maire67
    Maire67 Member Posts: 768
    edited July 2010
  • MichelleVP
    MichelleVP Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2008

    Six days after my  first Neulasta shot the bone pain in my hips and legs was so severe I had to take a narcotic to find relief. I was down for two days! It was worse than the chemo. I have had two more shots since then with barely a reaction. Now the chemo is worse than the Neulasta. Fifteen years ago when I had another type of cancer, and I took Neuprogen shots and had the exact same thing happen. Hopefully, your body will not react as severely to future shots. They do work and are worth it.

  • SuperMujer
    SuperMujer Member Posts: 100
    edited April 2008

    Wow, Can I relate to a long week of bone pain with Neulasta! I took the warnings with a grain of salt when both my physician and nurse warned me about bone pain after the Neulasta. Mine began about two days after the dose and persisted for a solid five days. The pain was mostly centered in my sternum which made me feel like I was in the middle of a very long MI. Nonsteroidals did not help as promised but the Hydromorphone given to me after my surgery did.

    After 5 days it was suddenly gone. Can't say I'm looking forward to doing it again but if it keeps my counts up, I guess its worth it.

    Hope your next dose goes better.

    LA

  • DottieW
    DottieW Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2008

    I had severe bone pain six days after the first neulasta ... lower back pain and pelvic, thighs all hurting. Called the Onc and nurse said, "no, can't be neulasta; you might have a kidney stone!" so I rushed to the hospital and after four hours and urine test was neg, the ER doc called another Onc who confirmed it WAS the neulasta. Tylenol took care of it, but it was pretty scary. From then on, I took tylenol at the first sign of bone pain, which showed up about a week after each neulasta shot. I finished chemo 14 months ago, and to this day my thighs hurt from time to time.

  • sahalie
    sahalie Member Posts: 2,147
    edited April 2008

    I finished treatment late summer 2006 but I will never forget that pain I experienced after each Neulasta shot.

    The second round after dd A/C and the shot the next day was the worst.

    It was so bad for me I had to stay in bed. 

    I wish you the best of luck.

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited April 2008

    I finished dd a/c and taxol in November, 2007.  Exactly one week after I had neulasta shot I would get bad pain in my lower back and legs.  It felt like my body was "boiling".  I have no pain at all anymore.

    Good luck!

    Hugs, Jackie

  • formygirls
    formygirls Member Posts: 916
    edited April 2008

    Thanks everyone. Sounds like I am not alone and this is an expected side effect even in the second week. Well.. two down..six more chemo to go. Hopefully this will end:)

  • pdm
    pdm Member Posts: 168
    edited April 2008

    The first Neulasta was a bear...the pain was so bad I couldn't function....the second one didn't work as fast and I had to be put in the hospital for low cell count...never got pain from the second one ..I guess if there is pain we know the shot is working...I rather have the pain knowing my cell count is ok then having a 0 count ..since the last one I still am not feeling ok...still have a fever off and on...I think I will welcome the pain...at least I know it is doing its job...

  • nobleanna007
    nobleanna007 Member Posts: 641
    edited April 2008

    I here all you gals!

                   Neulasta is a bear!! My pain seems to come and go but usually hurts through from 5hrs from the shot until almost my next chemo, I just did my 3rd A/C. I start taxol/herceptin next and I am really hoping not to get that shot. They hurt when they go in and they make you hurt afterwards but as my onc nurse said thats good!! I am Like what? She pretty much said before Neulasta I was the perfect candiadte Who would have been put in isolation due to such low wbcs. So yeah I guess I need to welcome the pain lol!! I asked for something stronger but have a hard time with narcotics so we tried tylenol3 with codeine and it does seem to help. I just have a hard time sleeping when I take it so I space it out. Yes you would think the codeine would knock me out but it does not make me as hyper as the other meds I tried. And thank gosh steriods make my blood pressure go up and I turn bright red so I can't take them you want to talk about hyper! Oh well all these woos to get better. I guess we just need to remind ourselves that it won't last forever!!!

                                                  Bridget

  • jengoll
    jengoll Member Posts: 23
    edited May 2008

    Is neulasta only given with a/c.  I did not get this with Taxotere.  However that alone gave me bone pain.  I'm getting ready to start the a/c.  Does everybody have to get the shot.  Can they give it to you in your port?

  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited May 2008

    formygirls, I only had the bone pain about a week after the first shot, never again after any of the others.

    My pain was a wave-like spasm in my lower back, about where the kidneys are.  It started around 7 AM and lasted for about 12 hours, then left just as suddenly as it started.  I took an Advil, which did help.

    It's extremely variable, as with so many of these treatments and drugs.  Hard to advise anyone on what to expect.

    Good luck for the rest of treatments.

  • LorenaB
    LorenaB Member Posts: 937
    edited May 2008

    Jengoll -  the Neulasta needs to be given one day after the chemo treatment -- I was told to wait a minimum of 22 hours.  I don't know if it's only given with A/C.  I'm doing A/C and I've had 3 Neulasta shots so far -- I've had some achiness and leg cramps, but it hasn't been horrible, and both times my wbc was normal (on the high side), so I guess it worked.

  • beachmom13
    beachmom13 Member Posts: 313
    edited May 2008

    Jengoll - I get Taxotere and cytoxin and I am getting neulasta. I've only had 1 and got it the week later. My onco checks blood counts after the first treatment and then makes a decision.  From here on out, I will receive it the day after infusion.  I received it on Wednesday and was fine until last night around 7.  Felt fine this morning, but it's starting in again.  I have been taking aleve or tylenol every 6 hours and was a little late this time.

  • jengoll
    jengoll Member Posts: 23
    edited May 2008

    Thank you Lee and Lorena,

    I had not really heard about this before.  So I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something :)  So in a nutshell it is used to keep your blood count up?

  • beachmom13
    beachmom13 Member Posts: 313
    edited May 2008

    jengoll - you've got it, although, when you have the pains, I wonder if it's just to make me feel awful

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited May 2008

    jengoll,

    The Neulasta shot contains a "hormone"-like product (granulocyte colony-stimulating factor) that some immature white blood cells (neutrophils) need to mature and be released from the bone marrow.  Since our bone marrow cells get zapped by the chemo, the Neulasta shot jump-starts the marrow to make it begin producing wbc again.  I've heard the bone pain comes from the fact that lots of neutrophils are crowding in the outer layer of bone (the periosteum), all trying to get out into the blood at the same time.

    Like beachmom/Lee, I am also on Taxotere/Cytoxan, and I automatically get a Neulasta shot with each chemo treatment.  The TC combination causes just as much bone marrow suppression as AC does, apparently.  I don't think Taxotere alone causes that problem, although you are right in pointing out that Taxotere causes bone and muscle pain.  Sometimes it's hard to tell why we're hurting--is it the Taxotere, or is it the Neulasta?

    The Neulasta injection must be given "subcutaneously".  Some of us get it in our upper arm; others get it under the skin/fat in the abdomen.  It cannot be given through a port because that would be i.v.

    Hope that helps!

    otter 

  • jengoll
    jengoll Member Posts: 23
    edited May 2008

    thanks otter.  Very insightful.  I still going hope I don't have to take the shot,  I hear a/c by itself does not goes bone pain.  I'm hoping it is true.  :) 

  • SusanW23
    SusanW23 Member Posts: 6
    edited April 2013

    I know this is an old thread, but I am currently in the middle of chemo (ACx4; Taxolx12) and am having hip pain two weeks after Neulasta shot. Is this normal? My onc's nurse seems to think it is. But I can't help but worry Frown

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2013

    susan - have you tried taking Claritin (not Claritin D) prior to your Neulasta?  Neulasta works by boosting white blood cell production in the bone marrow - the larger the bone, the larger the marrow, the more pain - this is why hips, back and legs often hurt the most.  Usually the first Neulasta injection hurts the most because it is the first time the marrow expands.  It is thought that Claritin helps because the antihistamine (loratidine) controls the edema in the marrow and lessens the pain.  I have linked a study below.  There is also thought that an NSAID combined with Claritin if of additional benefit, study for that linked below too.  The chemo drugs also cause some amount of bone pain, so you are getting a double whammy when combined with Neulasta.

    http://www.druglib.com/trial/36/NCT01311336.html

    http://www.druglib.com/trial/09/NCT01712009.html

  • SusanW23
    SusanW23 Member Posts: 6
    edited April 2013

    Thanks so much for the info, SpecialK! This is my second shot--had no pain with the first one. I have not tried Claritin, but I will definitely ask about it before my next treatment on Tuesday. I was just concerned that it has lasted for two weeks now--I thought it would have gone away by now...

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2013

    susan - if your onc approves (print out those studies and take them with you) take the Claritin an hour prior to the injection, and for several days afterward, or longer.  I started out doing this, but forgot on tx#3 and took it an hour afterward and noticed a big difference.  Good luck!

  • SusanW23
    SusanW23 Member Posts: 6
    edited April 2013

    I will definitely print out these studies and ask him on Tuesday! Thanks again for your help Laughing

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2013

    Claritin 24 hour worked for me.  I didn't even ask; just took it.

  • goutlaw
    goutlaw Member Posts: 283
    edited July 2013

    Bone pain and almost two weeks...not sure what to think. Going on third chemo with a/c. I just worry of it spreading. This is awful

  • JennaJMU
    JennaJMU Member Posts: 97
    edited July 2013

    I had terrible bone pain that started days 8-10 after the neulasta shot. Now I'm on Taxol and have Taxol bone pain. It's hard not to think It could be the cancer when you feel so crappy but I keep telling myself I didn't feel like this before treatment and its unlikely something new would be manifesting while on chemo.

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