Autoimmune Disease Following Breast Cancer Treatment

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Sadie-Rose
Sadie-Rose Member Posts: 222
Autoimmune Disease Following Breast Cancer Treatment

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  • Sadie-Rose
    Sadie-Rose Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2008

    Hi Everybody,

    A few months ago I had a major surgery and ended up having a pulmonary embolism.  I have been taking Coumadin since October.  Today I had a visit with my oncologist to follow up on some tests we did a week ago to see if there was a genetic cause for the blood clots.

    She did find I have a rare genetic mutation that increases my risk for blood clots.  She wants to do more testing in six weeks after I have stopped taking Coumadin.  She mentioned the an autoimmune disease called Lupus. 

    Has anyone been diagnosed with Lupus after their cancer treatment?

    Warmly,

    Sadie

  • Meggy
    Meggy Member Posts: 530
    edited April 2008

    Sadie, I don't know anything about the connection but I do want to mention that with these kind of conditions sleep is everything.  Sleep sleep sleep.  Low stress is also important.  Do they know for sure it is lupus?  I'll be thinking of you.

    -Meg 

  • jerseymaria
    jerseymaria Member Posts: 770
    edited April 2008

    sadie, i've had lupus for almost 18 years, many years before dx with bc in 06.  there is a factor in the blood called anti-cardiolipin -

    i think that's the correct spelling.  actually there are 3 of them.  these factors can cause increased clotting or thick blood.  2 of mine are fine and 1 is moderately positive.  i take baby asp.

    i do however have an aunt thru marriage that also has at least 1 positive anti-cardiolipin and she has been tested for lupus and other autoimmune diseases several times.  always negative. i think your best bet is to see a good rheumatologist.  if you can get to la there is a doctor there who is world renowned in lupus and fibromyalgia treatment and research.  dr. daniel wallace.  i was fortunate to have a consultation with him in 03 and he is wonderful.  i personally have wondered if my bc is a result of my screwed up immune system due to lupus.  i don't know the answer to that.  i am quite surprised that you will be off coumadin s/p pulmonary embolism.  i used to be a cardiovascular tech and the standard treatment was always at least 6 months with coumadin.

    good luck and please keep us posted. maria

  • Sadie-Rose
    Sadie-Rose Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2008

    Hi Maria,

    Thank you so much for your post. I sure feel like a newbie exploring information about lupus. There are some signs for me that are troubling. I didn't realize that lupus and blood clotting could be connected.

     I know my oncologist did extensive blood work a couple of weeks ago and said she wanted to do some more testing, after I have been off of coumadin for four weeks.

    I have also been wondering if there is a connection between breast cancer and lupus due to problems with my immune system. After radiation treatment  I was diagnosed with vitaligo, a skin condition also connected to the immune system.

    I wonder if you would share with me what your symptoms were when you were diagnosed and how you are doing now?

    I really appreciate your information. It  all makes more sense now.

    Warmly,

    Sadie

  • wishiwere
    wishiwere Member Posts: 3,793
    edited April 2008

    I've read some that they notice there might be a connection with BC and another AI, thyroid problems.  I was diagnosed with both last fall.  My BS used to be a thyroid specialist and was not at all surprised to hear I had both.  Interesting............... that AI's may be connected with Cancer.

  • Sadie-Rose
    Sadie-Rose Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2008

    Hi Wishiwere,

    I think that is curious.  I wonder if the long term fatigue some feel is due to an autoimmune disease. 

    Warmly,

    Nancy

  • jerseymaria
    jerseymaria Member Posts: 770
    edited April 2008

    nancy, the fatigue i had with lupus was so exteme i couldn't even describe it...unrelenting.  of course there were various other symptoms but even now i can tell when it's acting up because of the incredible fatigue which is not relieved at all by sleeping.

  • Sadie-Rose
    Sadie-Rose Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2008

    Hi Jerseymaria,

    I am surely feeling fatigue and muscle aches. Ir is hard to wait for the testing to be done.  It will be helpful to know what is going on because my mind can take me else where.

    Thank you for your post.

    Warmly,

    Sadie

  • Sadie-Rose
    Sadie-Rose Member Posts: 222
    edited May 2008

    Hi Everyone Reading This Thread,

    I've been doing some more research and there seems to be a gene that connect skin reactions like Vitiligo, Lupus, MS, and other autoimmune diseases. 

    I still have a couple of weeks before my testing is done, but many of the systems make sense to me.  It is hard to know what came first, breast cancer or the immune reactions.  I was diagnosed with Vitiligo right after I finished radiation treatment. 

    Does anyone else have information about autoimmune diseases and breast cancer?

    Sadie

  • Labgal
    Labgal Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2008
    I was diagnosed with non- specific autoimmune disease with positive ANA blood test titer 1:360 20 yrs ago. Any autoimmune disease is you body attacking itself for whatever unknown reason. I also have developed arthritis in the last 10 yrs which is also autoimmune, Studies have linked an increase in some cancers to autoimmune. I also had to have a hysterectomy at an early age due to severe endometrosis (sp?)  which by the way is also connected to autoimmune. If you google it there are losts of stuff related to autoimmune. Makes you wonder hugh???Undecided
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Wow!  You know that I also had severe endometriosis that resulted in several surgeries, hysterectomy and then removal of my remaining ovary, all years before I was dx with breast cancer, and now after treatment of bc, have been suffering with hives that occur once or twice a year, cover me from head to toe, do not react to any kind of medication and last for about 6 weeks each episode.  My dermatologist said I have chronic hives, which is also due to an AI disorder.  This really all makes sense and I have wondered for a couple of years if the endo and bc were some how connected.  I've read and known that endo is an AI disorder, and there seems to be more and more a connection between them all.  Huh.  

  • travelgal
    travelgal Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2013

    Last week I went to my onco for a follow up.  I've been fatigued, swollen joints with pain, just recovered from pneumonia (hubby, son and I all had the flu shot...hubby gets a cold, son gets the flu, I get pneumonia).

    Normally I don't complain, but the fatigue has not let up since I got off chemo and had radiation two years ago.  It comes and goes...gets really bad, then lets up.  The joint pain is horrible.  Worse.

    So, onco runs rheumatoid blood work and ANA.  Rheumatoid work negative...ANA positive.  Going to rheumatologist 3/22/13 (first appt. I could get) to see what auto immune disease I may be dealing with.

    Read that positive ANA and cancer can go hand in hand.

    I had endometriosis years before BC and had hysterectomy/oophorectomy at age 36. 

    Cancer, endometriosis, ?Lupus.  Is there a connection????

  • travelgal
    travelgal Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2013

    Oh...and I had blood clots after my first chemo (4 blood clots) and was on coumadin for over a year.  Off it now.  And...I had cellulitis (staph) after my breast surgery.

    Auto immune response???

  • hydeskate
    hydeskate Member Posts: 297
    edited February 2013

    I was dx with Sjogren's Syndrome (autoimmune disorder) after starting my chemo holiday.  My immune system is reeking havoc on my body, dry mouth, eyes, nose, ears, fatigue, joint pain, acid reflux (GERD), swollen glands just to name a few.  On the bright side even though I am Stage IV I have been off Chemo since Oct 2009 the Sjogren's seems to be keeping the cancer in check.

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited April 2013

    travelgal, interesting about the ANA.  just had labs run to check about autoimmune.  only thing positive was CRP.  have been dx'd with Seronegative RA.

  • hydeskate
    hydeskate Member Posts: 297
    edited April 2013

    travelgal, alot of the symptons you listed are the same I had before my dx.  When you go to the Rheum ask about Sjogren's Syndrome its an auto immune disorder.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2013

    Travelgal, I also had celluitis in the bc breast following my lumpectomy.  It was pretty painful.  What is ANA?  Is it something you can request testing from your med onc, or do you need to ask your primary for it?

  • dreaming
    dreaming Member Posts: 473
    edited April 2013

    I am a long term survivor, and I have fibromialgyia diagnosed 2 years after I finished chemo, also I have PMR diagnosed after tests for Lupus, MS, etc. To top it, also non alcoholic liver inflamation. My specialists think all is related to breast cancer. I am lucky that my medical team of oncologists,neurologists, GI;work together.

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