Vaccine for the future? Read the end!

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Vaccine for the future? Read the end!

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  • jeffntate
    jeffntate Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2008

    SUNDAY, April 13 (HealthDay News) -- A breast cancer vaccine significantly reduced the risk of recurrence for patients who have a high expression of the protein HER2-neu.

    This type of breast cancer, representing about one-quarter of all cases, tends to be deadlier than other forms of the disease. In this group, the vaccine reduced mortality by 50 percent.

    Even better, however, the vaccine lowered mortality by 100 percent in women with breast cancer and low or intermediate expression of HER2/neu. Currently, these women have no therapies other than conventional cancer treatments such as surgery and chemo.

    "We now have something we think works in the majority of women with breast cancer who are currently underserved," said Dr. George Peoples, senior author of the study, which is expected to be presented at the American Association for Cancer Research annual meeting, in San Diego. "It's also very, very well-tolerated, like a flu shot."

    Peoples is chief of surgical oncology at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio and director of the Cancer Vaccine Development Program at the U.S. Military Cancer Institute.

    According to study lead author, Dr. Linda Benavides, a resident in general surgery at Brooke Army Medical Center, the biotech firm, Apthera, has licensed the vaccine, named it NeuVax, and is currently planning phase 3 clinical trials.

    But there's still no guarantee the vaccine will reach the market.

    "It is a very exciting area of research, but it's very exploratory and not ready for prime time," said Dr. Minetta Liu, a translational researcher/breast oncologist at Georgetown's Lombardi Comprehensive Cancer Center.

    Other cancer vaccines have been tested, mostly to treat tumors that have already spread, with little success.

    "We've been studying vaccines in the setting of metastatic cancer, but the immune system has already been effective, and the cat's out of the bag already," Liu said. "Many of us believe the time to get rid of them is as they're developing. It's just so hard to study it in that setting."

    This vaccine (also known as E75), which stimulates the immune system to recognize the cancer as foreign, aims to prevent a recurrence in women who have already had one round of cancer. It is the furthest along of all the cancer vaccines.

    This trial involved 165 breast cancer patients with HER2/neu tumors and lymph node involvement; 94 were vaccinated (initial shot plus boosters) and 71 served as controls.

    Immunity was raised in all women who received the vaccine, but the biggest benefit was seen in those women with low and intermediate expression of HER2/neu or those who are not eligible for Herceptin, the drug currently used to treat this type of cancer.

    After a follow-up of about 30 months, recurrence rates were similar between high overexpressors in both the vaccine and control groups (18.2. percent and 13.8 percent, respectively). But, there was a greater than 50 percent reduction in mortality rates.

    In those with low or intermediate expression of the protein, results were more startling. Less than 11 percent of low HER2/neu expressors had a recurrence, versus 18.2 percent in the control group. The mortality rate in the vaccine group was zero, compared with 38 percent in the control group.

  • formygirls
    formygirls Member Posts: 916
    edited April 2008

    Where do I sign up?This sounds perfect. Hurry up and get this vaccine done!

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited April 2008

    Wow, this is very exciting news.  Seems like a win-win for both Her2neu neg's and pos. Thanks for posting!!

  • Jenniferz
    Jenniferz Member Posts: 541
    edited April 2008

    Sounds great!  But this line disturbs me---

    "But there's still no guarantee the vaccine will reach the market."

    Why not??

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited April 2008

    MD Andserson Houston and some other places have the trials on going.  You must have had standard treatment and now have no evidance of disease.  The looked it giving it to me even though I'm triple neg with only Her++.

    Flalady

  • swimangel72
    swimangel72 Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2008
    Really exciting news - even if this particular study doesn't end with a marketable vaccine, it's definitely going to lead to other studies that will - so the future is bright with hope!! Cool
  • maxgirl
    maxgirl Member Posts: 407
    edited April 2008

    Prime-time, schmime-time.  I'm ready to storm the doors of the nearest research center with my arm outstretched for the vaccine.  This is the most hopeful thing I've heard of for triple-negs. 

  • jacqueline56551
    jacqueline56551 Member Posts: 48
    edited April 2008

    Wow!!! Great news!!! Thanks for sharing it with us.

    Jacqueline 

  • formygirls
    formygirls Member Posts: 916
    edited April 2008

    I am a little confused now that I read the article again

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/103860.php

    . It was also posted on the Her2 board. Even to partcipate in the trials for this you have to e HER2+. Am I understanding this wrong? Since we are all triple negative, would this vaccine even apply? It sounds like they would eventually push for approval only for Her2 positive tumors. I know something like this is years away before we can get it but I am frustated at the lack of any options or treatments in development for us triple negs.

  • jeffntate
    jeffntate Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2008

    The study included all ranges of HER2.  You can be HER2 negative but still qualify for the study if your score is 1++ for HER2 (3++ is positive, 2++ requires a FISH analysis to determine positive).  I think the study authors were surprised to find that the low HER2 scores (1++ and maybe 2++ that didn't show on FISH) had even more significant improvement in survival and relapse than those who were HER2 positive (2++ w/ FISH or 3++).  So, read your pathology report and you likely will find you were 1++ and not 0 for HER2.

  • VKW
    VKW Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2008

    How can we find out more?

  • Nico1012
    Nico1012 Member Posts: 1,492
    edited May 2008

    VKW,

    If you click on "Research News" at the very top of this screen and then click on April 2008 and scroll down to "Vaccine" and click on that article, there is a side bar explanation that includes info on clinical trials.

    Nico

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited May 2008

    I am 0.  So this doesn't sound like an option for me at all.  I don't think its uncommon to find you are a 0 being a trip neg. 

  • zilpah
    zilpah Member Posts: 11
    edited June 2008

    I wanted to add that I have contacted Apthera about Neuvax (E75).  If you are a low expressor then you may benefit from this.  A HER2 expression of 1+ definitely does qualify as low expression.  The vaccine is in limbo now because they are awaiting approval for a phase III trial.  However, I feel obliged to tell you all that Dr. George Peoples (one of the co-creators of this vaccine) is working on 2 next generation vaccines that he feels are probably even more effective than E75.  They have a phase II trial open and are starting a phase I trial pretty soon.  The vaccines or peptides are called AE37 and GP2.   The reason I know all this is because I am triple negative with metastatic disease that hasn't responded to chemo (at all!!) I have been doing tons of research on non chemo options.

    Also, I want to add that I also was O for HER2 with my original pathology. But in the metastatic setting the HEr2 status changed to 1+.   I also advise you to get a "FISH"  test done to confirm your HER2 status.  

  • zilpah
    zilpah Member Posts: 11
    edited June 2008

    I would like to also say that PARP inhibitors are supposed to be very interesting and promising for triple neg. patients. Especially if you have the BRCA1 or BRCA2 mutations.  They are trials going on with PARP inhibitors that are supposedly going well. BUT you need to have measurable disease to qualify.  Am I the only person who is enraged by the way these trials are set up??? I just had a liver metastasis resected. So now I can't get PARP inhibitors! they want me to wait until the cancer comes back in full force (2cm or bigger) and then they'll let me join a trial.  However, the reality is that it probably will be alot less effective then.  Shame on them all.  I am 34 yrs old with three little kids and all they care about is their pristine trials.  I might as well be a lab mouse as far as they are concerned.

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