Starting Chemo in September?? where are you ladies

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  • livinginboji
    livinginboji Member Posts: 85
    edited March 2008

    My chest xray was negative!!  Onc didn't say anything about the labs so I am assuming everything was good. So I am feeling good. I mentioned on the tamoxifen thread that I was taking lexapro (anti-depressant) and someone mentioned that I should'nt be on it while taking tamox. I asked onc and he agreed! He said its not common knowledge and that 6 out of every 10 onc don't know that most anti-dpressants interfere with the tamox making it inactive!!!! I about s--t!!  So I've been taking tamoxifen since the middle of January and taking Lexapro since the first week in Feb. Not too mention that I know have 3/4 of a bottle of lexapro ($60) that is useless to me!!

    The onc was very impressed that someone had this knowledge and complimented this site! So so spread the word to anyone else. Thank God I mentioned it!!

    Take care ladies!

    P.S. Pax I will put the book away and try again in a couple of weeks. I really want this new insite and need all the help I can get! :-)

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    Pax that is awesome that your gene test was negative, I know how worried you were about that. Guess now you are the stage where you will recompose and move on, that must feel great ! Cant wait till I am there.

    Cheryll, woohooo !!!! every normal diagnostic/image is layering the ice which we are treading on mentally. you are wise about not asking for lab reports (did you see how I freaked myself !@!! )

    I also want to take antidepressant but am afraid for the implications with tamox, although I am not on it. I have severe night sweats and nothing is cutting them.. effexor is suggested but I really do not want it. 

    Started radiation yesterday and had a hissy-fit cause my shoulder and neck started killing me after 45 minutes of staying in that position for the mapping and first treatment ! My shoulder was still aching that night.

    Did all kinds of meditations, trying to keep the focus out of my body but I was as tense as a piano string ! And was even shivering I was so nervous.

    Today the 2nd treatment went so easier, during treatment I pictured my normal cells donning shields like the ones in the movie 300, and pushing the cells that 'have the thought of being immortal - c cells' outwards exposing them to the radiation beams unprotected.

     And today finally I was able to focus at work. 

    But I did start feeling a bit fatigued 1 hour after tx, and then slowly recovered about 5 hours after, I think it might be psychological since I am only at the start.

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    wish you the best with rads

  • bluewillow
    bluewillow Member Posts: 779
    edited March 2008

    Howdy to all!

    Glad to hear everyone is doing well and congratulations to all on the great test results!! A big YIPPEEEEEEEE for you all!  

    Sorry I haven't been online lately-- I have been so busy and just trying to focus on lots of things other than BC for a while-- and I'm doing great!!!  Rads are going well--had number 12 yesterday and will have my "break" next week while I go to my school bus conference in Charlotte, NC-- can't wait!  I think hubby is going too, and there is a huge Bass Pro Shop across the highway from the hotel where the conference is to be held, so hopefully we can check out their bow-fishing equipment! 

    Paxton, I hope you get to bowfish a lot soon.  Keep us posted on your outdoor adventures!  I have been shooting my bow quite a bit and am doing very well-- can't tell that I've lost any strength in my arms.

    Tri, I have had shoulder pain ever since I started rads and I know it's from holding my arm in place above my head.  I have shoulder bursitis anyway, and that's not helping any.  I've been told it will improve soon. 

    I've had some real fatigue too, but I've noticed is isn't as bad when I eat well (more protein) and it comes and goes, isn't consistent with every day.  I've not been resting enough either-- gotta slow down some.

    Marietta, glad the job is going so well!!  You sound really great and am glad you're doing so well!

    Hugs to all and take care, everyone!

    Mary Jo 

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    Glad to hear you're doing well.  I spent all day trying to build a work bench out of scraps bf keeps bringing home.  I didn't realize the only pieces the size for the posts were pine and nothing stayed put so I finally said the hell with it all.  I'm so exhausted.  I spent most of the day yesterday checking bf's trapline.  I watched American Idol, went to bed and didn't get up until 1pm today. 

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    Hey everyone,

    Completed 6 out of 33 rads.. yey.. I am feeling a lot better than I did at the start.  No fatigue yet. Skin is holding up as of now.

    I am putting aloe or aquaphor immediately after treatment and then again at night.

    Went to a naturopath doctor to discuss complimentary therapy he will give me my regimen next tuesday.

    Pax you are so handy !

    MJ hope your trip goes well, keep us posted on how rads are going.

    Hope everybody is doing well .

  • nanc512
    nanc512 Member Posts: 98
    edited March 2008

    Sorry I haven't updated for months and months.  Chemo was really tough, I was down for most of September - February.  I am just now starting to feel better and be active.

    I developed neuropathy and it's pretty bad.  I went back to the onc today and got samples of Femara, they took blood to test to see if my ovaries are still active.  I still have my port, not sure when it will come out. 

    I fell two weeks ago and broke my finger, sprained my shoulder and got banged up.  I lost feeling in my feet and went down on my finger pads on concrete. 

    Anyone else taking Femara and have input?

    Trigeek:  I just read a bunch of messages and got caught up on my chemo twin!  I didn't realize I had private messages here too and found a bunch of people checking on me and looking for me.  I feel so bad.  I will keep in touch now that I can sit at my desk and type (even with one finger in a splint).  lol

    Nancy

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    Sorry to hear you've had such a tough time Nancy.  Hope things continue to improve. 

    I guess we're all moving on a bit from here and that's good.  I have days where it feels like before dx.  But then there's nights like saturday where we went to the local bar and drunk people who haven't seen me much come and hug me like 100 times and ramble on and on. 

    Oh well...

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    Hey Nancy ! my chemo twin nice ot hear from you.

    Geesh sorry about the neuropathy I also have it and stepped on dh's foot and did not even realize it Surprised 

    healing vibes your way..

    My oncologist will be putting me on tamoxifen ( since I am premenap) but I know one of my friends could not take the tamox and is taking Femara and loves it ( wonder if she gets that shot that shuts up the ovaries)

    I have a lot of night sweats which is not letting me sleep and is my biggest complaint. I bought a chillow .. drinking ice water, sleeping au-naturel .. still wake up at least 3-4 times and it takes 15-20 minutes for the body to settle after that. Very weird feeling.

    Tamox is supposed to make them worse !! geesh I will be in deep s..t, as I did not even start that yet.

    8 out of 33 rads done, not feeling any se's yet.

    Trying to check the bc.org only twice a week, trying to adapt to normal life and minimize bc as much as I can.

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    I am also going to a naturopathic doctor today saw him last week, he seemed ok, will be giving me a regimen to help me through rads, and then we'll work on building the body back up. If only he can help with the night sweats ! He will also do acupuncture today,

    Next week I will also be seeing an endocrinologist.

    I am thinking back of how I felt the last couple of years and am trying to work that information into what I have been reading about bc.

    I always had a high heart rate ( although I work out a lot ), as if there was an inflammation in my body ( well there was bc brewing .. probably the immune system was on overdrive ) .. I was anemic.. that would be preventing oxygen transport to the cells making them feeling the need to be anaerobic ( which is one explanation of why normal cells decide to go beserk.. in order to be able to survive without oxygen).

    So now I will give feedback to these 2 doctors asking them to design my protocol as to fight inflammation, increase oxygen transport.

    And ohh.. most importantly I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP FOR 6 HOURS WITHOUT WAKING UP...PLEEeAASSSEEE.. my oncologist could not care less. !

  • StillKicking
    StillKicking Member Posts: 115
    edited March 2008

    I posted this over on the Koemen board.   Since we all started chemo about the same time, I was wondering if anyone else is having difficulties moving on and making decisions.

    Before BC I was going to build a new home in the country, looking for a new car, a couple of cats, and investment property.  I thought I had it going on.
     
    After BC, can't decide to do anything!.  Do I need to be near the hospital?  What if I need help?  Since I am self employed, I always ask the question, "what if it comes back?"  Do I spend the money?  What about insurance?  What if they cancel the policy?  Should I play it safe and stay where I am with the low mortgage?
     
    Does there come a time in this process where it is no longer about the Cancer?  When or how to we move-on and make decisions without the Cancer being a part of it?  If I stop and think, I'm only 47, a little cash put aside, a few assets.  No kids.  Very few bills.  Why the fear of what about tomorrow?  
     
    Some days I want to say "To hell with it!"  If it comes back, at least I had a good time.  But than I wake up and the old fear "what if" is there again.
     
    I got through Chemo (barely), hair is coming back, learning to survive with the joint pain from the Arimedex, but how do you move on?  Does the fear go away? 
     

  • StillKicking
    StillKicking Member Posts: 115
    edited March 2008

    I forgot to say I've now got the attention span of a knat (or some other animal that cannot hold a thought for more than 5 minutes).  Barely go to work.   How long does this take?

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    stillkicking: ur not alone.  The important life decisions are all impacted now.  I'm 34.  I'm on medical assistance.  I would like to marry my bf someday but I'm worried I'll get kicked off health insurance.  The follow-up tests and appts alone cost a lot.  I want to buy a house someday maybe up north.  But I'm afraid to live too far away from a hospital and to be invested in something that big in case something comes back.  So, I relate.  It can be overwhelming.  I try not to worry too much right now since I just finished treatment but I know these what if's will haunt me as life goes on.  But I'm alive.   And I'm going to do my best to live it.  I'll have to do some homework and make some tough choices. 

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    StillKickin you definitely are not alone like pax said, everyone on this site is in this state of mind ( and I would not think it would be normal if you felt perfectly secure about your future as if you just went through an ear infection !!! )

     I too find it hard to balance between ' living the day to the fullest' and 'acting responsibly thinking about the future and acting cautiously'. Every morning I am tempted to 'call in sick' and go to the beach or just sit in front of tv and veg instead of doing a job which I really do not like, but pays the bills and has good medical coverage.

    I was told that it really does get better, I have completed 9 out of 33 rads and will be going on tamoxifen. I find that I am learning to live with my fear, denying its existence was too tiring.

    Denial to an extent seems to be necessary for daily survival, but I am not kidding myself and am factoring that I harbored bc at one point in my life in all my decisions.

    We just have to learn to live with this uncertainty I presume, after all no one having bc or not, does not have a guaranteed expiration date right ?

    Hang in there, and it is great to hear from you !

    Sometimes it is really bad and I think about going on antidepressants ( would probably help my night flashes which are horrible ! ), and I might anyday do so.

  • Gillkath
    Gillkath Member Posts: 149
    edited March 2008

    Hi Ladies,

    I just thought I'd stop in and check on all of you .....

    I'm finished all my treatments, my hair is growing back, and life is going on.  I find though that now that I'm finished my treatment, I feel "down" quite often.  Has anyone else experienced just this feeling of sadness and just not feeling right?  I keep wondering whether I need to go on anti-depressants or something.  Or if it is just fatigue? 

    I still have to decide on the tamoxifen -- I got the prescription in January and just filled it yesterday.

    I am in training for the Boston 3 Day Walk -- I walked 7 miles on both Saturday and Sunday.  I think I am nuts!

    Laurie

  • bluewillow
    bluewillow Member Posts: 779
    edited March 2008

    Hey Laurie,

    Congratulations on finishing your treatments!

    I've not been on these boards quite as often as previously, but I have been trying to check in and at least say 'howdy' to everyone.  I am trying not to read a lot in an effort to give BC as little room in my mind/life as possible, even though I am still in the midst of radiation treatment and Herceptin.  I too have been feeling very "down" just in the last couple of weeks-- not sure why because I was sailing along great and doing very well emotionally until all of a sudden, bam-- and I have given thoughts to anti-depressants too.  I have had weird feelings and thoughts too, and I truly and honestly think mine is fatigue, and I bet yours is too.  I have also wondered if radiation has a part too. I have worked mostly all through treatment and thankful for being able to, but I am just worn out, mentally and physically.  Last week, I came home from a busy day at work and a stop at the grocery store and just sat down and cried.  My husband wondered what in the world was wrong (he is weary of all the BC stuff too and is being distant lately, which is very stressful for me) and I told him I was sick and tired of being stared at when I go out in public.  His response was "it's all your imagination".  Well, it's not.

    Is your hair re-growth a boost for you?  Mine is coming back but not yet ready for public viewing.

    Good luck on your Walk-- you're awesome for doing it!!!

    I hope you can hang in there, Laurie!  Maybe some nice spring weather will help us all.  Keep in touch and take care!

    Mary Jo

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    I'm feeling all over, too.  It must be pretty normal.  I also know I was really tired and emotional during rads (more than chemo).  That went away pretty quick after being done.  I've been getting the flu on and off for weeks now.  I think that's part of why I'm down sometimes.  I just get so tired of feeling crappy and tired.  I perk up pretty quick on those good days.  But this on and off crap hasn't been good for my exercising which is also frustrating. 

    And I'm waiting with deciding on working until I have my ear, nose, throat appt the end of the month because they may do surgery to cut the vestibular nerve in my ear so I can see normal.  I want to learn more about how risky it is, but at this point I'm much more willing to try anything (just don't want to go blind or lose my facial muscle use heh).

    Well, bitch bitch bitch

    Hear you on lessing the focus of bc in our lives. 

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  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    I can't remember where you are in florida, tri, but I've booked my trip apr 8-16 to bradenton to stay with my parents. 

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    Pax !!! It is a 2.5 hour drive but I will come over for sure( I have done that before to Ana Maria Island Holmes Beach) ! I would love to meet you, hopefully my skin will hold up from the rads ( it will be the 5.5 weeks into it .. so cross your fingers !!) and we can maybe do a beach day ??

    Tri gave up gals, I was not able to stave off the hot flashes naturally.. so went on Effexor otherwise was going to lose it due to lack of sleep. And that also seemed to calm me down, I guess I did need an antidep after all.

    I have been going commando except at work ( the reason I am wearing a wig to work is that my hair is too white ! ) when people stare I give a huuuggggeee smile, that seems to do it. They either smile or they scurry away like a bug !!

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    I posted the following on Moving Beyond Cancer topic, but wanted to share it with my September chemo sisters in case you are not checking that thread:

    Ok so how do we 'move on ??' I find myself thinking about bc while driving, at work, in the middle of the night, at the movies... you got the picture.

    Then I thought of something. I will forbid my mind to think about anything related to cancer at certain places/doing certain actions. Then I will add on to the list until I am bc free ! I did not find it possible  'not think about bc at all' suddenly, it is as if I became addicted to bc stuff .. not good ! So this is the way I am planning to wean myself.

    First I forbid myself to think about bc at my kundalini yoga session.

    Then I added the rule that I am not allowed to think about it in the bedroom.

    Then I added the rule that I am not allowed to think about bc while biking.

    Hopefully one day this list will include everything in my life..

    Aylin

    Smile !! Laughing

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    Laurie, you are awesome I can not fathom a 3 day walk ! ( 20 miles each day right ?)

  • Gillkath
    Gillkath Member Posts: 149
    edited March 2008

    Hi again,

    Yes, I know, a 3 day walk -- I'm nuts!  Another local breast cancer survivor asked me to walk -- and I barely knew her.  So, I said "yes."  We have been training for weeks now and on the weekend we walked 7 miles both days.  So, I'm getting there.  But that is a long way from walking 20 miles in one day. 

    I actually find that planning for the walk is a great diversion from thinking about stupid breast cancer.  As you, I am so sick of thinking about breast cancer and wanted to take the focus off of it.

    I also am trying to get up the courage to take the tamoxifen.  I was given a prescription for it in January and haven't gotten the courage to take it yet.  My surgeon keeps telling me that this is the easy part ....

    In addition, in order to "give back" to my community, I am trying to get a program that I have called "Camisoles for Comfort Project" going at my local breast care center.  I found after my diagnosis of breast cancer, I was not offered any real support there.  So, I have posted to a few sites asking women to share their post-diagnosis experiences with me.  I welcome your comments, too.  Another hospital in my state offers tote bags with post-mastectomy camisoles, pillows, a book on breast cancer, a calendar to track appointments, etc. 

    I hope you all have a good day.

    Laurie

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    tri, if ur 2 tired to drive that far, we could meet for lunch by you somewhere.  However it'll work.  I'm not renting a car but my parents have 2 and I'm sure we could figure it all out. 

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    We definitely will figure something out, but I am always looking for an excuse to go to Ana Maria.. ( guess I have to wait and see how my skin will hold up .. for far 15 treatments done and there is no sign of redness however I do feel fatigued after treatments) Or maybe you could come one day and we can go to one of the theme parks then I will come to the beach.? That would be awesome I have not been to one in at least 8 years ! ( sea world, universal .. mgm.. ?)

    Hmm I am getting ideas .. like you somehow get to Orlando, we go to a theme park, then I drive you back to Bradenton and we do beach ?

    It is all about fun for me nowadays.. it is really hard to focus on working.. hmm... how is everyone else doing ?

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    I don't know how much I'll be up to doing.  I've been sick and dragging since finishing tx and my inner ear damage is giving me so much trouble with vertigo and nausea.  And I have to plan around a few days that my dad has off because I won't be seeing them for probably another year.  I'm really tired right now so I'm sorry if I'm rambling. 

    Hope tx is still going good 4 u and hope things are good by everybody else.

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    I'll just wait to see how I'm feeling closer to when the trip is.  Maybe I'll feel ok and be up to doing more and maybe I won't.  The days I feel good, I do quite a bit but when I'm feeling junky I just can't get the gas moving.  So bare with me.  I might sneak some of my zofran along to help with the nausea from my ear problem.  Can't hurt.

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2008

    Hey Pax girl, no problem.

    I just got overly excited about meeting my September chemo buddy .. and got carried away.

    We'll figure something out !

    I started taking Effexor for hot flashes and it made me depressed, constipated and fatigued. and the hot flashes still continued.

    Ditched it, hopefully my energy will come back up as of now come 3 PM I am ready for a siesta.

    Skin is holding up 17/33 done.

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    I didn't have to stop until about tx 26 but I really didn't think it was that bad and having the time off to heal made me that much farther healed when I was done.  You can barely even tell I had anything done now and its only been a few weeks.  So you'll do great.  And glad u went off effexor if it did all that.  I was on medication before all this so I've held tight to the same regime even though I'd like to go off or lower it.  But now isn't the time.

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited March 2008

    I had my dr appt for my ear problem.  They're sending me off to a clinic that specializes in inner ear problems to have extensive testing done to pinpoint what the problem is.  Then I'll most likely have surgery.  I'm hopeful my life will be given back to me.  I can't wait. 

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited April 2008

    Hey Pax I  PM'd you.

    September gals what is everyones status ?

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